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(10-06-2024, 02:11 PM)Randyb100 Wrote: (09-25-2024, 02:35 PM)TINASAM Wrote: I'm currently in the middle of some graduate credits / degrees, but at the end of this mess I will have two associate degrees, a bachelor's, three master degrees, and a Ph.D. The master degrees let me do lower level college teaching remotely as an adjunct and I have zero need for tenure track or anything other than adjunct work. The Ph.D. will allow me to do upper level teaching and help lend some better credibly to me teaching than with just my masters', as well as give me a boost if I ever want to do in-person teaching locally (which I do not think my health would allow, but it'd give me the opportunity).
This is my plan but I was looking at doing a bunch of graduate certificates if I can find more that have at least 18 credit hours. Otherwise I'd have to do 2 similar ones or another degree to qualify to be an adjunct.
Did you pay out of pocket? I'm assuming most of these people just took out grad loans. There's tons of stories of people with 500k+ in debt that's just forgiven after PSLF or 20 years all over the internet.
The two associate degrees were nearly free (one is Pierpont and the other I got with transfer credits while getting my bachelor degree). The bachelor degree was free during COVID when the free bachelor degree thing was still available from Franklin University with the Union plan. My Master degree is about $11k or so. The Ph.D. is going to be around $27k? I believe. I'm getting a student loan for the master and the phd. The other two masters degrees will be $900 because one is the Elmwood $900 thing and the other is free at where I'm teaching (they allow teachers to take a free class each term to get another degree).
Current Degree Programs:
MASS - GSU - May 2025
MLM - Elmwood Inst. - May 2025
M.Ed - UoPeople - April 2027
Up Next:
Ph.D in Change Leadership in Equity and Inclusion - UCA
Finished Degrees:
AAS Board of Governors -PC&TC 8/2021
ASBA (cum laude) - Franklin University 9/2022
BS Social Science (cum laude) - Franklin University 12/2022
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(09-25-2024, 01:28 AM)Duneranger Wrote: I think there is a large disconnect on this board for what a PhD is and isn't. This isn't the same thing as going to a part time evening or online masters program nor is it the same thing as someone rushing through a UMPI degree in 8 weeks. For sure you should work and do these types of degrees on the side. A PhD is a different animal.
A PhD is more than a different animal; it's a beast. It is the most soul-sucking experience one can ever have. It minumim returns on several fronts. Take this with a gain of salt from me.
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(10-06-2024, 03:46 PM)xspect Wrote: (09-25-2024, 01:28 AM)Duneranger Wrote: I think there is a large disconnect on this board for what a PhD is and isn't. This isn't the same thing as going to a part time evening or online masters program nor is it the same thing as someone rushing through a UMPI degree in 8 weeks. For sure you should work and do these types of degrees on the side. A PhD is a different animal.
A PhD is more than a different animal; it's a beast. It is the most soul-sucking experience one can ever have. It minumim returns on several fronts. Take this with a gain of salt from me.
I agree, I feel like many people here don't understand this. Many think it is some advanced UMPI MAOL degree (or other CBE degree) you can ACE-credit your way through.
In most fields, it has next to ZERO ROI, but I feel like there is borderline complex on here about adding random letters or degrees on here from places that 99% of people have no idea exist.
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10-07-2024, 08:20 PM
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A doctorate is a requirement for some types of jobs. Believe it or not, people do sometimes pursue things that interest them over jobs that might pay more.
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(10-07-2024, 08:20 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: A doctorate is a requirement for some types of jobs. Believe it or not, people do sometimes pursue things that interest them over jobs that might pay more.
And sometimes it's for personal achievement.
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Essentially, if you have the means to pay for the education or have tuition assistance/reimbursement, I don't see there being a downside to going after a personal goal, it could be a professional title or something else you're going for. Having an end goal for your educational journey in mind is great, going for it is better, achieving that is a dream for most...
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"I feel like there is borderline complex on here about adding random letters or degrees on here from places that 99% of people have no idea exist."
I resemble that remark!
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(10-09-2024, 09:09 AM)ReyMysterioso Wrote: "I feel like there is borderline complex on here about adding random letters or degrees on here from places that 99% of people have no idea exist."
I resemble that remark!
Most value degrees will come from universities no one has heard of, which is fine as long as they are accredited. Some of us are, indeed, degree junkies that like to learn new things and get new letters behind our names, lol. Before joining the forum, I had no clue about most schools spoken here because I only knew about schools in my state and the surrounding states or big Division 1 schools that play sports. The Internet offers a wider range of schools that can fit everyone's needs, demands, budgets, and goals.
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EVMS Doctor of Health Science
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Doctor of Healthcare Administration Dec 2021
Masters of Business Administration July 2022
Masters of Public Administration '19
Masters of Arts in Urban Affairs '17
Masters of Arts in Criminal Justice '16
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(10-09-2024, 09:45 AM)newdegree Wrote: (10-09-2024, 09:09 AM)ReyMysterioso Wrote: "I feel like there is borderline complex on here about adding random letters or degrees on here from places that 99% of people have no idea exist."
I resemble that remark!
Most value degrees will come from universities no one has heard of, which is fine as long as they are accredited. Some of us are, indeed, degree junkies that like to learn new things and get new letters behind our names, lol. Before joining the forum, I had no clue about most schools spoken here because I only knew about schools in my state and the surrounding states or big Division 1 schools that play sports. The Internet offers a wider range of schools that can fit everyone's needs, demands, budgets, and goals. That's fine, but it deviates into neuroticism at some point. You can indeed easily learn without getting a degree too,
It affects every "hobby" forum to some degree. I was on a gun forum once where people obsessed over collecting certain serial numbers of magazines and only wanted AKs from certain years and plants in the Soviet Union
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(10-16-2024, 04:23 PM)Duneranger Wrote: (10-09-2024, 09:45 AM)newdegree Wrote: (10-09-2024, 09:09 AM)ReyMysterioso Wrote: "I feel like there is borderline complex on here about adding random letters or degrees on here from places that 99% of people have no idea exist."
I resemble that remark!
Most value degrees will come from universities no one has heard of, which is fine as long as they are accredited. Some of us are, indeed, degree junkies that like to learn new things and get new letters behind our names, lol. Before joining the forum, I had no clue about most schools spoken here because I only knew about schools in my state and the surrounding states or big Division 1 schools that play sports. The Internet offers a wider range of schools that can fit everyone's needs, demands, budgets, and goals. That's fine, but it deviates into neuroticism at some point. You can indeed easily learn without getting a degree too,
It affects every "hobby" forum to some degree. I was on a gun forum once where people obsessed over collecting certain serial numbers of magazines and only wanted AKs from certain years and plants in the Soviet Union
I disagree with the neuroticism part. It's all a personal choice. I do not tie my emotions to having a degree or not. If a person wants a degree, a new job field may require it as an entry-level requirement. I have friends who have trade skills with no degree or license, which is fine. They can find jobs, but sometimes, they have extra requirements to get the job. I don't think anyone is crazy enough to spend time and money on a degree like trading cards or guns. It's more complex getting a degree than just buying something as you can't just walk up to a counter and say, "Hey, let me get five master's degrees and a doctorate just because I want to collect them or have an obsession.
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EVMS Doctor of Health Science
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Doctor of Healthcare Administration Dec 2021
Masters of Business Administration July 2022
Masters of Public Administration '19
Masters of Arts in Urban Affairs '17
Masters of Arts in Criminal Justice '16
Bachelors of Science in Police Studies '14
Advanced Graduate Certificate in Criminal Investigations '15
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