$10,000 Degrees in Texas

[sanantone]

Texas Tech is ranked higher than University of Houston. Texas Tech is supposed to have a much larger endowment too. The Texas Tech and Texas State University systems are the ones that are confusing because you can't readily tell any of the universities are related. Angelo State University, where I got my masters, is under the Texas Tech system. The Texas State University system includes Lamar University, Sul Ross State University, and Sam Houston State University. The A&M system does also have Tarleton State University and Prairie View A&M. I believe that there are only 3 public universities that are outside of those four systems: Texas Woman's University, Stephen F. Austin University, and Midwestern State University. I do not think we have any state colleges. We just have community colleges, technical colleges, and universities.

Never mind, I forgot about the University of North Texas system which only has two schools. That makes 5 systems.

[clep3705]

UoH is Definitly not a flagship university or tier I

U of H claims to be: Tier One - University of Houston

[namwen]

The facts differ from your assertion: Tier One - University of Houston

A Carnegie ranking is much different than ACTUAL tier I research status. Carnegie rankings do not make you an official Tier I school. I know that UoH is not marketing that but it still has a way to go to become tier I.

Read up on this article and it further explains the situation:

UH takes big step up to Tier One status - Houston Chronicle

"The designation by the Carnegie Foundation, a policy and research organization focused on higher education, doesn't mean UH is now officially a Tier One school. Other rankings consider criteria beyond the research portfolio."

[namwen]

Here is a much better article from the student newspaper ripping UoH for marketing something that is not true.

UH administration manipulates the facts when it comes to Tier One

Tier what? // thedailycougar.com

[clep3705]

Thanks for the clarification on U of H's less than tier 1 status. Billboards around Houston proclaim tier 1 status and U of H officials have been making the same exaggerated claim at every opportunity.

[namwen]

Thanks for the clarification on U of H's less than tier 1 status. Billboards around Houston proclaim tier 1 status and U of H officials have been making the same exaggerated claim at every opportunity.

It is a minor annoyance of mine which was the reason I brought it up.

I don't know why but it gets on my nerves that they claim the status when it's less than true.

[Prloko]

oh I get it, they are all A&M colleges...but the "real" Texas A&M is the one in college station right? That's kinda stupid.

Sounds like the big stink that's always brought up with Penn State World Campus and Penn State University Park, Some of the degrees are conferred by UP, but people make a stink if you don't put "World Campus" on your CV.

[sanantone]

Sounds like the big stink that's always brought up with Penn State World Campus and Penn State University Park, Some of the degrees are conferred by UP, but people make a stink if you don't put "World Campus" on your CV.

I thoroughly researched this issue. World Campus does not confer degrees, so you should not put it on your resume or anything else. It will not be listed on your transcript or diploma. Your degree will be conferred by the campus that houses the department of your degree. It could be University Park or it could be another campus. On the other hand, Harvard makes it very clear that Harvard Extension degrees are not Harvard degrees and should not be listed as such.

But it's quite common for state university systems to have one name with a different city attached to the end. Each campus is its own university or college with its own ranking and alumni network. Take the University of California System for example. I believe Berkeley is ranked the highest. Merced and Riverside aren't considered to be on the same level. Which state is that that will have the new competency-based degree programs? They made sure that none of the degrees would be conferred by the main, highest-ranked campus.

[rebel100]

Harvard makes it very clear that Harvard Extension degrees are not Harvard degrees and should not be listed as such.

This is straight up wrong....From Harvards website:

"Harvard University offers the following degrees in Extension Studies:

Associate in Arts
Bachelor of Liberal Arts
Master of Liberal Arts

It is acceptable, therefore, to list the ALM degree on your rÃsumà in the following manner:

Harvard University, Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies, Concentration in history

Unacceptable: Harvard University, MA in History"
Program Contacts and FAQs: Master of Liberal Arts Degree

The Extension School is one of the 13 colleges that makes up Harvard University. To argue that an ES degree is something other than a Harvard degree is rediculous and blatantly uninformed. What else would you call it? Its conferred by Harvard University.

Harvard goes on to say "Yes. ALM graduates are Harvard alumni and alumnae, and the program of study is in every way as challenging as that of graduate degree programs in other Harvard schools."

"The diploma reads UNIVERSITAS HARVARDIANA; then, after the graduate’s name comes Magistri in Artibus Liberalibus Studiorum Prolatorum (Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies)."

The ES program is not Harvard College...but then neither is the School of Divinity Harvard College, likewise HBS is not Harvard College. All are none the less Harvard University.

Note that the Extension School is the only one that offers associates degrees, accepts up to 12 hours via CLEP, and has a short but significant residency requirement for all degree's. There is no shame in a degree from the Extension School...in many ways it may be one of the best deals in American higher education.

[sanantone]

This is straight up wrong....From Harvards website:

"Harvard University offers the following degrees in Extension Studies:

Associate in Arts
Bachelor of Liberal Arts
Master of Liberal Arts

It is acceptable, therefore, to list the ALM degree on your rÃsumà in the following manner:

Harvard University, Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies, Concentration in history

Unacceptable: Harvard University, MA in History"
Program Contacts and FAQs: Master of Liberal Arts Degree

The Extension School is one of the 13 colleges that makes up Harvard University. To argue that an ES degree is something other than a Harvard degree is rediculous and blatantly uninformed. What else would you call it? Its conferred by Harvard University.

Harvard goes on to say "Yes. ALM graduates are Harvard alumni and alumnae, and the program of study is in every way as challenging as that of graduate degree programs in other Harvard schools."

The diploma reads UNIVERSITAS HARVARDIANA; then, after the graduate’s name comes Magistri in Artibus Liberalibus Studiorum Prolatorum (Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies).

The ES program is not Harvard College...but then neither is the School of Divinity Harvard College, likewise HBS is not Harvard College. All are none the less Harvard University.

Note that the Extension School is the only one that offers associates degrees, accepts up to 12 hours via CLEP, and has a short but significant residency requirement for all degree's. There is no shame in a degree from the Extension School...in many ways it may be one of the best deals in American higher education.

I could have worded it better, but everyone will know that you did not go through the same admissions process as other Harvard students. If you did, your degree would have come from Harvard College. The fact that the extension school is the only one that accepts CLEPs makes it even more different from the rest of Harvard University. Penn State makes no distinction between its online and on campus programs. It's just me personally, but I'd rather earn my degree by distance at a school that accepts me as an equal and I wouldn't have to deal with accusations that I'm trying to pass off a Harvard extension school degree as being as prestigious as a Harvard College degree.