WES Canada recognizes ENEB/Isabel

[eLearner]

It seems that WES Canada no longer accepts Isabel Masters degrees achieved through ENEB. This is a real blow and certainly devalues ENEB degrees for me, as I hoped to use it for credits and immigration purposes in Canada. Now when you try and apply on the WES Canada website, their "degree equivalency too" no longer shows Isabel as a University they recognise at all for any degrees.

If I knew this was going to happen I would have chosen a different institution than ENEB. It feels like I've wasted a whole year, and the slowness of ENEB in issuing their degrees has ruined things for me. If they'd issued my degree in 30 days, rather than 75 days, I may have managed to get my WES Canada validation.

Is it the public tool you can access without an account? Or the one that you can only access inside your account? I ask because there is a difference. For some reason, the public tool doesn't bring up as many schools as the account-based tool. If it's not available in the account-based tool, then the party is over at WES Canada.

That said, I do still see Isabel and ENEB available and accepted in the U.S. account-based tool. Of course, as we know, WES U.S. evaluates ENEB degrees as non-accredited U.S. Master's degrees.

[RoboPanda]

I still see Isabel 1 and ENEB inside the Canada Account based selection too.

From what I know, Isabel was never listed in the public tool.

[Wowbagger]

I still see Isabel 1 and ENEB inside the Canada Account based selection too.

From what I know, Isabel was never listed in the public tool.

Thanks for the clarification. It was the public tool I was trying to use. If it's still showing once you register an account then I may still have an opportunity to get my degree evaluated. I'm still waiting for ENEB to send me the PDF certificates.

[arad]

if you choose ENEB the following message pops up:
WES does not evaluate academic records from Escuela de Negocios Europea de Barcelona - ENEB at this time. Do not include this credential in your application. If included, this will cause a delay in processing your evaluation report.

[RoboPanda]

if you choose ENEB the following message pops up:
WES does not evaluate academic records from Escuela de Negocios Europea de Barcelona - ENEB at this time. Do not include this credential in your application. If included, this will cause a delay in processing your evaluation report.

Good to know thank you. My plan is to get Isabel 1 evaluated but I am also waiting for ENEB to send me the digital certificates. It’s a race against time now.

[Nemfis]

if you choose ENEB the following message pops up:
WES does not evaluate academic records from Escuela de Negocios Europea de Barcelona - ENEB at this time. Do not include this credential in your application. If included, this will cause a delay in processing your evaluation report.

Interesting, would then they definitely accept UI1 degrees through ENEB, afaik - ENEB sends their own transcripts to WES, not UI1.

[nykorn]

You might have a better shot if there is any other evaluator that accepts files sent by the user instead of sent directly by the school. Then you could at least send the Isabel certificates.

[Voldigoad]

You might have a better shot if there is any other evaluator that accepts files sent by the user instead of sent directly by the school. Then you could at least send the Isabel certificates.

Validential allows you to upload own documents iirc. A friend got their ENEB Master's evaluated as a regional accredited Master (US).

[ecdw94]

if you choose ENEB the following message pops up:
WES does not evaluate academic records from Escuela de Negocios Europea de Barcelona - ENEB at this time. Do not include this credential in your application. If included, this will cause a delay in processing your evaluation report.

But, from the other point of view, it also asks for the Name of Diploma/certificate as well as year it was awarded. ENEB does not award a diploma anyway. So maybe this does not matter?  People like this: https://badges.wes.org/Evidence?i=de822f...75&type=ca  Did they not just chose UC1 and not ENEB when evaluating?  Maybe we are misunderstanding something.  Whoever has already evaluated ENEB/UC1 by WES, did you chose ENEB or UC1? I think this is the question. If you have to chose ENEB or/and getting an accredited masters degree equivalency in canada through ENEB pathway is not working anymore, this will be bad and ruin things for a lot of us...

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I have finally completed the Master in Big Data after 11 months. I am hoping this will help me with my application for a Canadian visa to emigrate there in the future - from the UK. I'm curious if anyone has managed to get their ENEB/Isabel Masters validated through WES Canada for IRCC? And is it worth getting it done for IRCC now, even if I'm not immediately planning to apply for Canadian visa until late 2024? I'm assuming once validated by WES for IRCC the credential is in the Canadian government system and will save me time later. But happy to be corrected if that's not true?

Also, can anyone clarify the difference between IRCC validation and the simpler degree equivalency validations? Are they basically doing the same thing?

A quick google says "A WES ECA (Educational Credential Assessment as Evaluations for Immigration) is valid for five years from the date of issue. If your ECA has expired or is nearing the expiry date, you can extend the validity of the report by ordering an extra copy."

I don't know if this is the same, but WES USA has a "course for course" evaluation versus a "whole degree" evaluation. The degree one just says if your degree is equal to a US degree or not. The course by course one is recommended for immigration, school admissions and some types of employment, and "translates" not just your degree, but also your GPA and credit hours. Also WES USA evaluations do not expire, so WES Canada is different in that regard.

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Also I think some people are misunderstanding something in the thread. You can get a degree from Isabel which is from Isabel itself and is in no way connected to ENEB. So the badges people are seeing may be people who took classes are the "real" Isabel, not at ENEB.

As to your last message, you might be right, but here is one guy

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jorge-j-morel/?locale=en_US 

Who attended ENEB from 2018 to 2020 
and he got a WES assessment for UC1  in 2021
https://badges.wes.org/Evidence?i=205038...82&type=ca
Which nowhere does it say "unaccredited" or similar. 

He was even kind enough to provide his documents he received from both universities. 
One says
Granted by UC1, degree "Master in big data and business intelligence" awarded on 17 april 2020.  1500 hours (equivalent to 60 ECTS)
while the other says
Granted by ENEB, diploma "Master in big data and business intelligence" awarded on 12 april 2020, 1500 hours ...

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I still see Isabel 1 and ENEB inside the Canada Account based selection too.

From what I know, Isabel was never listed in the public tool.

Thanks for the clarification. It was the public tool I was trying to use. If it's still showing once you register an account then I may still have an opportunity to get my degree evaluated. I'm still waiting for ENEB to send me the PDF certificates.

Its so sad you can not subscribe to a thread on this forum. 

Would you mind telling us when you get the eneb diploma, as well as if you try to get it evaluated by wes?

[arad]

@ecdw94
if you check my previous posts, you'll see the responses I got from 3-4 people on linkedin who received an evaluation from WES for ENEB.
some of them included ENEB as the degree granting institution, and others used Isabel.
"ENEB does not award a diploma anyway" what do you mean?