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09-22-2018, 04:34 PM
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(09-22-2018, 09:40 AM)zzzz24 Wrote: Almost all of the history courses show lower level on ACE, except for 306, even though people have received credit for them on here as upper level, such as History 308, 307, etc.
But on the Study.com/TESU transfer page, it shows which transfer as 300 level, so I don't get it.
Up until April 2018 or so, TESU used to evaluate a number of specific LL courses as UL (and in some cases evaluate certain UL courses as LL) as that what was most closely matched their own curriculum. However, with the change in leadership, the new direction for the evaluators was to award UL or LL based on that of the original school award (or in the case of alt credits, the recommendation of ACE and/or NCCRS). So a number of courses across all providers were re-evaluated to more closely match their ACE or NCCRS recommendations. This cut out quite a few courses that had formerly been accepted as UL for years.
Yeah, it kind of sucks, but at the same time, it means the evaluations are more consistent and predictable. This mainly helps people who are coming in with college credits that were UL when earned but TESU had been evaluating them as LL (in fact, I believe that is the reason why this new policy was put in place).
Going forward, if you want to know what the equivalency of a Study.com course is at TESU, first check the equivalencies listed on the Study.com site, that should show the courses that are covered in the latest articulation agreement. If it isn't listed in the equivalencies, then check ACE (or NCCRS) to see what they recommend; that should be what TESU will evaluate the course as in terms of UL vs LL and number of credits.
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09-22-2018, 05:23 PM
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I don't know how TESU can even properly evaluate my courses for upper level criteria. WES doesn't send them with their course numbers, just the name and the grade/credit.
It's going to suck if I have to get 5 upper levels off SDC.
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10-02-2018, 12:38 AM
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On TESU's website in a chart showing how you can transfer 90 credits from Study.com for a BA in Liberal Studies, it lists in the 300-400 level section these Study.com courses with their corresponding TESU equivalents. Note that only one of these has a 300 level code name at either place. Yet they are all listed as fulfilling the 300-400 level requirement:
STUDY.COM ------------------------------------------ TESU
Business 113: Business Communication ----------------- COM-202: Intro to Business Communication
History 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War ----- HIS-351: A History of the Vietnam War
Psychology 105: Research Methods in Psychology ------ PSY-229: Intro to Research Methods
Psychology 106: Abnormal Psychology ------------------- PSY-235: Intro to Abnormal Psychology
Psychology 104: Social Psychology ----------------------- PSY-237: Intro to Social Psychology
This is what it reads at TESU https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies
This chart is informational in nature and designed to help prospective students see how up to 90 credits from Study.com courses may be applied to the BA degree with an area of study in Liberal Studies at Thomas Edison State University. It is not an official academic evaluation. Credits earned via Study.com courses must be submitted to the University via an official Study.com transcript for credit to be awarded.
I understand the need for an evaluation regarding courses coming in, but it seems to me that it should be clear cut whether a TESU course is upper level or not. This chart https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies makes it seem as if these 200 named courses at TESU would fit the upper level credit slots -- meaning I could take them at TESU and meet this requirement.
Any one know anything about this?
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I think that's inaccurate/out of date.
This is more up to date
https://study.com/directory/school/Thoma...ransferTab
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(10-02-2018, 12:38 AM)MrsBulletPoints Wrote: On TESU's website in a chart showing how you can transfer 90 credits from Study.com for a BA in Liberal Studies, it lists in the 300-400 level section these Study.com courses with their corresponding TESU equivalents. Note that only one of these has a 300 level code name at either place. Yet they are all listed as fulfilling the 300-400 level requirement:
STUDY.COM ------------------------------------------ TESU
Business 113: Business Communication ----------------- COM-202: Intro to Business Communication
History 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War ----- HIS-351: A History of the Vietnam War
Psychology 105: Research Methods in Psychology ------ PSY-229: Intro to Research Methods
Psychology 106: Abnormal Psychology ------------------- PSY-235: Intro to Abnormal Psychology
Psychology 104: Social Psychology ----------------------- PSY-237: Intro to Social Psychology
This is what it reads at TESU https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies
This chart is informational in nature and designed to help prospective students see how up to 90 credits from Study.com courses may be applied to the BA degree with an area of study in Liberal Studies at Thomas Edison State University. It is not an official academic evaluation. Credits earned via Study.com courses must be submitted to the University via an official Study.com transcript for credit to be awarded.
I understand the need for an evaluation regarding courses coming in, but it seems to me that it should be clear cut whether a TESU course is upper level or not. This chart https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies makes it seem as if these 200 named courses at TESU would fit the upper level credit slots -- meaning I could take them at TESU and meet this requirement.
Any one know anything about this?
The way to know if something comes in as UL is by looking at the "TESU Equivalency." If the TESU equivalency is a 300-level or 400-level course, then it's UL. There are quite a few Study.com courses that are 300-level or 400-level per their own course numbering system, but were not ACE/NCCRS approved as UL. So you cannot use those to figure out if they will work or not. You can only use TESU's numbering.
The other way to know is to look the course up on ACE/NCCRS. If it says it will come in as UL, then it would normally come in as UL at any school. TESU follows ACE recommendations pretty closely.
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I received a list of Study.com courses that would transfer in as UL credit from one of the Academic Advisors last week:
History 306: The American Civil War Era
History 311: The Holocaust & World War II
Psychology 301: Industrial/Organizational Psychology
Psychology 312: History and Systems of Psychology
Criminal Justice 305: The Juvenile Justice System
Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
Computer Science 302: Systems Analysis & Design
Computer Science 303: Database Management
There are two other ones that are considered UL that was listed on my recent Academic Evaluation, but I forgot which ones those were. I'll list them here once I'm able to log into my account, for some reason I can't log in.
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(10-02-2018, 01:40 PM)ISKBizz15 Wrote: I received a list of Study.com courses that would transfer in as UL credit from one of the Academic Advisors last week:
History 306: The American Civil War Era
History 311: The Holocaust & World War II
Psychology 301: Industrial/Organizational Psychology
Psychology 312: History and Systems of Psychology
Criminal Justice 305: The Juvenile Justice System
Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
Computer Science 302: Systems Analysis & Design
Computer Science 303: Database Management
There are two other ones that are considered UL that was listed on my recent Academic Evaluation, but I forgot which ones those were. I'll list them here once I'm able to log into my account, for some reason I can't log in.
There are more UL courses than that. You can get a fairly definitive list from the transfer tab for TESU's page on study.com
- https://study.com/directory/school/Thomas_Edison_State_University.html#transferTab
Just look under the subject you're interested in, and any courses that come in as 300-400 level courses on the right side of the page (Thomas Edison course codes) will be upper-level credit. Though not all will be useful to every degree of course.
There are also a few UL courses that aren't listed on the transfer list since they're not part of the agreement between Study.com and TESU yet. But they can still earn UL credit. For any that don't appear check the ACE (and NCCRS) websites. If a course is listed as UL with ACE (or NCCRS), then it should come in as UL at TESU as well.
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(10-02-2018, 01:48 PM)Merlin Wrote: (10-02-2018, 01:40 PM)ISKBizz15 Wrote: I received a list of Study.com courses that would transfer in as UL credit from one of the Academic Advisors last week:
History 306: The American Civil War Era
History 311: The Holocaust & World War II
Psychology 301: Industrial/Organizational Psychology
Psychology 312: History and Systems of Psychology
Criminal Justice 305: The Juvenile Justice System
Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
Computer Science 302: Systems Analysis & Design
Computer Science 303: Database Management
There are two other ones that are considered UL that was listed on my recent Academic Evaluation, but I forgot which ones those were. I'll list them here once I'm able to log into my account, for some reason I can't log in.
There are more UL courses than that. You can get a fairly definitive list from the transfer tab for TESU's page on study.com
- https://study.com/directory/school/Thomas_Edison_State_University.html#transferTab
Just look under the subject you're interested in, and any courses that come in as 300-400 level courses on the right side of the page (Thomas Edison course codes) will be upper-level credit. Though not all will be useful to every degree of course.
There are also a few UL courses that aren't listed on the transfer list since they're not part of the agreement between Study.com and TESU yet. But they can still earn UL credit. For any that don't appear check the ACE (and NCCRS) websites. If a course is listed as UL with ACE (or NCCRS), then it should come in as UL at TESU as well. I originally chose my UL classes from the Study.com site for the TESU equivalencies by searching for those that are of the 300 - 400 level, but had those turned down as UL. I was told that certain classes listed there are no longer being accepted as UL at TESU, I don't know when they plan to update that list, but I hope they do it soon.
Your right about looking up the course level on the ACE site, that would probably be better since they'd more than likely stick close to the ACE recommendations.
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The list has since been updated since the TESU downgrade. When were you doing your planning?
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A little more than a week ago, glad to hear they updated it. I'll take another look at it then.
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