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(09-26-2018, 12:16 PM)davewill Wrote: Every new school will require all the old transcripts. They will check with the National Student Clearinghouse to make sure they have them all, and you'll have to provide it, even if all you took there was a PE course. This may come up for the Pierpont AAS people if Pierpont reports the degree to NSC which causes future grad or undergrad schools to insist on a transcript Pierpont won't provide. They are going to have to fix this.
Edit: It occurs that to me it would be another kind of bad if they DON'T report the degree to NSC. If you claim the degree and a future school (or maybe employer) tries to verify you attended Pierpont, and can't, you could stand accused of academic fraud.
Agreed!! I sent an email to Lyla Grandstaff (Vice President Student Services and Enrollment Management) explaining that not having access to retrieve my (son's) transcript via Pierpont's registrar looks like academic fraud. This was back in August, here was her reply:
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Lyla Grandstaff <lyla.grandstaff@pierpont.edu>
Wed, Aug 15, 11:16 AM
to me
Dear Mr. Derosa,
First I apologize for not getting back to you. Yes, we are working on getting all BOG students a final transcripts. I agree, it is very important.
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That's it - nothing else. I followed up asking about the implementation timeline, no reply.
(09-26-2018, 12:37 PM)ChilliDawg Wrote: (09-26-2018, 12:16 PM)davewill Wrote: Every new school will require all the old transcripts. They will check with the National Student Clearinghouse to make sure they have them all, and you'll have to provide it, even if all you took there was a PE course. This may come up for the Pierpont AAS people if Pierpont reports the degree to NSC which causes future grad or undergrad schools to insist on a transcript Pierpont won't provide. They are going to have to fix this.
Edit: It occurs that to me it would be another kind of bad if they DON'T report the degree to NSC. If you claim the degree and a future school (or maybe employer) tries to verify you attended Pierpont, and can't, you could stand accused of academic fraud.
Unfortunately, they do not report to NSC, if you did not earn credit there. I have an active account with NSC, through one of my existing B&M colleges. Although I am a 2017 graduate of Pierpont's AAS program, my NSC record shows nothing, not hide nor hair of anything to do with Pierpont. Every other college that I have ever attended in the past 20 years is on there. Not Pierpont. When I asked Nancy about this, via email, she replied....... "if you only graduated from Pierpont but did not take classes from here, you likely will not show up in the Clearinghouse. "
So Chilli, if I were to ask you to prove to me that you ACTUALLY earned a degree.... could you? How?
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Has anyone heard back from the college yet in reference to issuing a transcript? TY
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(10-14-2018, 11:49 AM)alleycat Wrote: Has anyone heard back from the college yet in reference to issuing a transcript? TY
nothing here
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Boy this is slow. TY for responding.
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(09-26-2018, 03:30 PM) pid=\270069' Wrote:[quote pid='270055' dateline='1537983450']
So Chilli, if I were to ask you to prove to me that you ACTUALLY earned a degree.... could you? How?
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Sorry, Jennifer. I just now saw this post.
Well, I have a written letter on letterhead, verifying my completion.
Just like the good, old days, a potential employer COULD call the school to verify.
I agree with you that the lack of transcript from Pierpont is not ideal. The more I think about it, the more my opinion changes, and I would like to have a transcript.
FWIW, back in July, I procured a new position in government. I work in the State Circuit Courts. The job supposedly required a degree. I listed both my Pierpont and my TESU degrees. Other than being listed on my resume, they did not ask for transcripts for either. If they checked the National Clearinghouse, I can tell you that my TESU was not listed on there, at the time. I am really not sure how they verified the degrees.
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Chilli did you tell them you believe that a transcript is a very important tool for people seeking employment or promotions? I think it’s important people actively in progress should be voicing these things for their own safety long term.
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Having a verifiable transcript would be recommended, especially when working for government agencies... otherwise, something like what this lady has done may come up! https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...-uk.53102/
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(11-20-2018, 08:07 AM)ChilliDawg Wrote: (09-26-2018, 03:30 PM) pid=\270069' Wrote:[quote pid='270055' dateline='1537983450']
So Chilli, if I were to ask you to prove to me that you ACTUALLY earned a degree.... could you? How?
Sorry, Jennifer. I just now saw this post.
Well, I have a written letter on letterhead, verifying my completion.
Just like the good, old days, a potential employer COULD call the school to verify.
I agree with you that the lack of transcript from Pierpont is not ideal. The more I think about it, the more my opinion changes, and I would like to have a transcript.
FWIW, back in July, I procured a new position in government. I work in the State Circuit Courts. The job supposedly required a degree. I listed both my Pierpont and my TESU degrees. Other than being listed on my resume, they did not ask for transcripts for either. If they checked the National Clearinghouse, I can tell you that my TESU was not listed on there, at the time. I am really not sure how they verified the degrees.
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It just boggles my mind- I still haven't heard anything here either. When you apply to grad school and they want your undergrad transcript - what then? I'm so frustrated by Pierpont.
I don't mean *you* specifically, though I'm chatting with you lol, but I just mean in general. I mean how is anyone going to verify anything?
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