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People Who Regret Their College Majors Are Sharing What Their Major Was And When They Learned They Made A Huge Mistake
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I like the ones taking engineering degrees and complaining that the major was not easy. This sums up so much about younger generations wanted everything handed to them, including the Manager title the day they are hired.
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(02-13-2024, 11:23 PM)Ares Wrote: I like the ones taking engineering degrees and complaining that the major was not easy. This sums up so much about younger generations wanted everything handed to them, including the Manager title the day they are hired.
As someone who has an engineering degree I have to say that the younger generation has is harder than older generations. Back in the day, engineering degrees had far less units and grades were less important. In the 1980s you could be a C student with any stem degree from a small state school and easily get a well paying engineering job. Not to mention that degrees were much cheaper and had lower workloads on top of it. That isnt the case anymore.
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(02-13-2024, 11:47 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: As someone who has an engineering degree I have to say that the younger generation has is harder than older generations. Back in the day, engineering degrees had far less units and grades were less important. In the 1980s you could be a C student with any stem degree from a small state school and easily get a well paying engineering job. Not to mention that degrees were much cheaper and had lower workloads on top of it. That isnt the case anymore.
Well something is seriously wrong with STEM university programs because I have hired multiple people over the past 10 years with a B.S. in Computer Science/Information Technology from established state universities and they know next to nothing about the subject, cannot handle pressure, whine about "work life balance", refuse overtime and want to be promoted after a month of doing nothing. The ones I hire with just tech certs (CompTIA, Microsoft etc...) or associate degrees in tech are still employed.
My father is an engineer and he never had a light workload in his life. Nights and weekends were common but his degrees were certainly cheaper, I will agree on that.
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My Sociology degree prepared me to be.... an administrative assistant. The crazy thing is that most places I worked required a bachelor's degree for this role. That seems crazy to me. Luckily, lots of experience and natural aptitude have FINALLY gotten me into a different role. I hope that my MBA will continue to allow me more opportunities. Currently in a "regional" role, and my employer also has plenty of "national" roles.
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02-14-2024, 10:53 AM
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(02-14-2024, 02:17 AM)Ares Wrote: Well something is seriously wrong with STEM university programs because I have hired multiple people over the past 10 years with a B.S. in Computer Science/Information Technology from established state universities and they know next to nothing about the subject, cannot handle pressure, whine about "work life balance", refuse overtime and want to be promoted after a month of doing nothing. The ones I hire with just tech certs (CompTIA, Microsoft etc...) or associate degrees in tech are still employed.
My father is an engineer and he never had a light workload in his life. Nights and weekends were common but his degrees were certainly cheaper, I will agree on that.
That is a really unprofessional way to talk about your former employees. There is nothing wrong with wanting a work life balance, refusing overtime work, or even wanting a promotion. It sounds like you expect alot more from them then they are currently capable of. I wont tell you how to manage your employees, but there are many good resources on this forum on classes, certs, and degrees that likely address this very issue.
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(02-14-2024, 02:17 AM)Ares Wrote: Well something is seriously wrong with STEM university programs because I have hired multiple people over the past 10 years with a B.S. in Computer Science/Information Technology from established state universities and they know next to nothing about the subject, cannot handle pressure, whine about "work life balance", refuse overtime and want to be promoted after a month of doing nothing. The ones I hire with just tech certs (CompTIA, Microsoft etc...) or associate degrees in tech are still employed.
My father is an engineer and he never had a light workload in his life. Nights and weekends were common but his degrees were certainly cheaper, I will agree on that.
I'm Gen X and I'm not working overtime. I will not work for a company where I don't have a work/life balance. I did that when I was younger and refuse to now. Companies have shown how loyal they are to their employees - they're not at all - and employees are fed up.
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(02-14-2024, 10:44 AM)Vle045 Wrote: My Sociology degree prepared me to be.... an administrative assistant. The crazy thing is that most places I worked required a bachelor's degree for this role. That seems crazy to me. Luckily, lots of experience and natural aptitude have FINALLY gotten me into a different role. I hope that my MBA will continue to allow me more opportunities. Currently in a "regional" role, and my employer also has plenty of "national" roles.
Knowing what you know now, would you have majored in another field?
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(02-14-2024, 11:06 AM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: (02-14-2024, 10:44 AM)Vle045 Wrote: My Sociology degree prepared me to be.... an administrative assistant. The crazy thing is that most places I worked required a bachelor's degree for this role. That seems crazy to me. Luckily, lots of experience and natural aptitude have FINALLY gotten me into a different role. I hope that my MBA will continue to allow me more opportunities. Currently in a "regional" role, and my employer also has plenty of "national" roles.
Knowing what you know now, would you have majored in another field?
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Yes! But.... I don't know how I would have figured that out back then. I was first gen college student. I went for something that I felt I could "pass". Computers were nothing like they are today. I knew zero about business. It's also why I try not to judge those who take a "gap year".
It could be beneficial for some.
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(02-14-2024, 10:53 AM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: (02-14-2024, 02:17 AM)Ares Wrote: Well something is seriously wrong with STEM university programs because I have hired multiple people over the past 10 years with a B.S. in Computer Science/Information Technology from established state universities and they know next to nothing about the subject, cannot handle pressure, whine about "work life balance", refuse overtime and want to be promoted after a month of doing nothing. The ones I hire with just tech certs (CompTIA, Microsoft etc...) or associate degrees in tech are still employed.
My father is an engineer and he never had a light workload in his life. Nights and weekends were common but his degrees were certainly cheaper, I will agree on that.
That is a really unprofessional way to talk about your former employees. There is nothing wrong with wanting a work life balance, refusing overtime work, or even wanting a promotion. It sounds like you expect alot more from them then they are currently capable of. I wont tell you how to manage your employees, but there are many good resources on this forum on classes, certs, and degrees that likely address this very issue.
I have no sympathy for the lazy and entitled who when hired for a job, are told up front the job requirements, expectations, including hours, shifts, vacation and sick policy then try to renege on what they signed up for. Apparently no one ever told them you cannot dictate to your boss the terms of the job your are employed at. These are hourly workers who get time and a half for overtime which is mandatory (48 hours min) for a few months out of the year and they then have it easy the rest. This is definitely a generational issues which has started to appear over the last 10 years and is getting worse. I work for a billion dollar company and we have no shortage of people applying. I consistently wind up hiring more older workers because they are less likely to be lazy or entitled. My employees are managed very well and well compensated so I don't need any "resources". OT for those we keep can add up to over $20-30K to their yearly salary if they take advantage of it. Ten years ago I would have to send people home because they were working 80+ hours now some young snowflakes cannot be bothered to stay past 5 PM when we need them. These people are quickly cut loose and it is consistently Millennials and Gen Z. If most of them were not still living with their parents their attitude might change.
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