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(06-02-2021, 01:06 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (06-02-2021, 12:43 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I wouldn't mind that many lecture videos so long as I had a choice. Maybe with one section I want to watch a video while I actually want to read another section. It's so easy to miss something in the text that you wouldn't miss in a lecture or vice versa. As long as the lectures are actually interesting and not read by Ben Stein ("Bueller? Bueller?"), it'd be great.
I have not taken a CBE course where the reading took as long as 45 50 minute lecture videos. I have watched part of a class on OnlineDegree and I fell asleep! The guy was that boring and monotone. When I watch videos on Coursera for a certificate I'm working on, I watch them at double speed and thankful that works! When I watched the USF DEI video on LinkedIn, I couldn't watch them on double speed. I switched to YouTube to see if I could watch it faster and I could. I was so excited. Those videos were all over 2 hours long and that's just too long at one time.
If it's 45 50-minute videos or no degree, of course I'm going to pick the videos. Not everyone who has the intelligence to obtain a higher degree is going to be capable of polishing off piles of written content. It really is a shame that non-neurotypical persons are discouraged from getting the degree that they want due to these requirements. Not being able to focus on a textbook for an hour doesn't mean that you're stupid or unworthy of a degree.
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(06-02-2021, 12:06 PM)ss20ts Wrote: You really can't pay attention to 2 things at the same time and learn most of what you need. Multitasking doesn't really exist. You're not giving either task 100%. You're really switch tasking which doesn't make you productive. I struggle with ADHD and this is a HUGE issue I deal with every day, all day.
When my kid was little, he HAD to be moving all the time, especially for his brain to work. He memorized his entire times tables while jumping on the trampoline. He had a pencil tapping or his leg bouncing or something moving while doing his schoolwork. He just did not learn while sitting completely still. So I don't think movement counts as "multitasking" in this instance.
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I am able to focus much better when I'm able to fidget at least a little. I don't think I would be able to do any learning on a trampoline but doing something like small and simple crafts or even a fidget cube/spinner are both helpful to me.
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(06-02-2021, 01:13 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (06-02-2021, 12:06 PM)ss20ts Wrote: You really can't pay attention to 2 things at the same time and learn most of what you need. Multitasking doesn't really exist. You're not giving either task 100%. You're really switch tasking which doesn't make you productive. I struggle with ADHD and this is a HUGE issue I deal with every day, all day.
When my kid was little, he HAD to be moving all the time, especially for his brain to work. He memorized his entire times tables while jumping on the trampoline. He had a pencil tapping or his leg bouncing or something moving while doing his schoolwork. He just did not learn while sitting completely still. So I don't think movement counts as "multitasking" in this instance.
I can totally see this. When my son was younger and we had to go over spelling words, he had to be spinning in circles or trying to stand on his head.
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(06-02-2021, 01:12 PM)rachel83az Wrote: (06-02-2021, 01:06 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (06-02-2021, 12:43 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I wouldn't mind that many lecture videos so long as I had a choice. Maybe with one section I want to watch a video while I actually want to read another section. It's so easy to miss something in the text that you wouldn't miss in a lecture or vice versa. As long as the lectures are actually interesting and not read by Ben Stein ("Bueller? Bueller?"), it'd be great.
I have not taken a CBE course where the reading took as long as 45 50 minute lecture videos. I have watched part of a class on OnlineDegree and I fell asleep! The guy was that boring and monotone. When I watch videos on Coursera for a certificate I'm working on, I watch them at double speed and thankful that works! When I watched the USF DEI video on LinkedIn, I couldn't watch them on double speed. I switched to YouTube to see if I could watch it faster and I could. I was so excited. Those videos were all over 2 hours long and that's just too long at one time.
If it's 45 50-minute videos or no degree, of course I'm going to pick the videos. Not everyone who has the intelligence to obtain a higher degree is going to be capable of polishing off piles of written content. It really is a shame that non-neurotypical persons are discouraged from getting the degree that they want due to these requirements. Not being able to focus on a textbook for an hour doesn't mean that you're stupid or unworthy of a degree.
Whoa. I never said anyone was stupid or unworthy of a degree. I suffer with ADHD and struggle to get through reading. If I make it through a paragraph without my mind wandering off, it's pretty much a miracle.
The OP is also in grad school. Grad school is well known for the large volume of reading. If they want more videos, then they should contact Walden and ask for more videos. There are some accommodations made for folks with disabilities.
(06-02-2021, 01:06 PM)Vle045 Wrote: Even more reason they can make a legit video. No live classes to take up time.
Online schools don't have full time professors. They have adjunct instructors typically. The instructors don't create the courses and coursework. They're there to grade the assignments basically.
If you really want more videos, you should contact Walden. I don't know how the CBE program is at Walden. I know UMPI had videos in most lessons in the undergrad program I was in. The videos were not a replacement for the reading material though. The videos were to enhance the reading the reading material and show examples.
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Ss20ts - I am not sure if you realize it or not, but the tone of your writing in this particular thread is kind of judgmental and dismissive. In a way, you come off as giving every excuse in the book on why it’s too hard for them to provide videos. At no point did I say I didn’t expect a lot of reading or a replacement for reading. What I WOULD love to see is videos “to enhance the reading materials and show examples”. I really don’t care if they are plucked from youtube, or recordings of live classes, or some adjunct recording from their iphone in their basement. I asked if there were programs that seemed to have more videos. Maybe I shouldn’t have asked the rhetorical question on why they don’t have them. For me, if I go in to a reading material that includes topics that are familiar, (like from a video I just watched), I seem to be able to connect with it better. As someone who has worked in a professional setting for about 20 years or so, at no point have I found that employers expect tons of reading and writing. It seems so silly to me that school is set up that way.
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I know that it's undergrad, but ASU seems to be able to provide videos for their cheap courses just fine. Some of them are 5+ years old. It's mainly adjuncts and/or TAs that do most of the grading and whatnot. OnlineDegree, ONU, and XAMK all source videos from sites like YouTube.
Even if a school doesn't have the budget to create their own videos, you can't tell me that there is no graduate-level video content freely available out there... somewhere. IMO, if you are already linking to outside articles for content (I think Vle045 said that Walden does that), there's really no reason not to include video content as well except for some elitist view of what education is that hurts neurodiverse people.
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(06-03-2021, 11:46 AM)Vle045 Wrote: Ss20ts - I am not sure if you realize it or not, but the tone of your writing in this particular thread is kind of judgmental and dismissive. In a way, you come off as giving every excuse in the book on why it’s too hard for them to provide videos. At no point did I say I didn’t expect a lot of reading or a replacement for reading. What I WOULD love to see is videos “to enhance the reading materials and show examples”. I really don’t care if they are plucked from youtube, or recordings of live classes, or some adjunct recording from their iphone in their basement. I asked if there were programs that seemed to have more videos. Maybe I shouldn’t have asked the rhetorical question on why they don’t have them. For me, if I go in to a reading material that includes topics that are familiar, (like from a video I just watched), I seem to be able to connect with it better. As someone who has worked in a professional setting for about 20 years or so, at no point have I found that employers expect tons of reading and writing. It seems so silly to me that school is set up that way.
There is no tone in writing. Tone is created by the reader/interpreter. I'm am not being dismissive. I don't know how many videos are in your classes as I am not in them. Very few people on here have attended Walden. As I previously stated, the CBE program I was in had videos (they were not created by our professors). They were videos that supplemented the material. They didn't replace the reading. Our coursework was based on all of the reading not the videos.
I said to contact Walden for a variety of reasons which I didn't think needed to be explained to a grad student, but here goes.
1. Your course instructor may have additional material for you available by contacting them. This is the case at WGU which has a ton of videos and additional videos are available from the CI's. These aren't WGU videos I'm talking about either. They're found on YouTube.
2. Walden may have additional resources available on social media as WGU does. WGU has numerous Facebook groups. These are very interactive by fellow students. There are Facebook groups which are only open to enrolled students and the rest of the world cannot access. Walden may also do this, but you'd need to ask them as they would need to accept you.
3. You may be the first person to ask for more videos. You may be the 100th person to ask for videos. In either case, it may be something Walden wants/needs to know so they can provide the correct ones for the material covered in their classes.
4. If you have a disability (a reading disability, ADHD, ADD, dyslexia, etc.), then Walden needs to by law make accommodations under the ADA. They would need to know the student has a disability and what accommodations are necessary that they can make.
There may be other reasons to speak to Walden about this. I've been in many online programs and none - so far - have videos which replaced the reading. None are all video except for a class I attempted on OnlineDegrees.com, but the videos were horrible and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
(06-03-2021, 12:03 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I know that it's undergrad, but ASU seems to be able to provide videos for their cheap courses just fine. Some of them are 5+ years old. It's mainly adjuncts and/or TAs that do most of the grading and whatnot. OnlineDegree, ONU, and XAMK all source videos from sites like YouTube.
Even if a school doesn't have the budget to create their own videos, you can't tell me that there is no graduate-level video content freely available out there... somewhere. IMO, if you are already linking to outside articles for content (I think Vle045 said that Walden does that), there's really no reason not to include video content as well except for some elitist view of what education is that hurts neurodiverse people.
We don't even know what videos Walden has available! The OP never stated if there were any or if they reached out to the instructor for more videos.
You're really grasping at straws about what I said. ONE MORE TIME! I HAVE ADHD! So I totally understand the need for extra help. I also have an autoimmune disease that is slowly crippling me. So yeah I do know that people need help. Who do you think recommended UMPI to ashkir because of the way they make accommodations? ME! I know about his health issues and knew UMPI would help.
I NEVER said no include any video content. Students who need help need to ASK for it in their classes! That's not elitist. That's just a fact. NO one here can actually help them. They need to ask for help in their courses or from the disability services office at their school.
Most online programs do include video content. It doesn't replace the reading though. If that's what someone needs, then they really need to reach out to the school and ask for those services.
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Yes, writing has a tone. Your words have meaning. Sentence structure, adjectives, and adverbs all help create a tone. Your lengthy dialog on why you are right creates a tone of superiority. I would think that your volume of reading and writing in classes would have taught you that.
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