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Need help with ASNSM Math AOS options for TESU
#11
dfrecore Wrote:Shmoop has Finite Math & Geometry, Geometry is UL (per ACE) there so it might be a different course number than Study.com (which is LL MAT-260).

I would check with TESU to see how those come in (and let us know what they say!).

ACE considers Shmoop Finite Math to be LL. "In the lower-division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 3 semester hours in finite mathematics, business mathematics, or survey of actuarial science (7/16)." You could still check just in case.

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#12
I wish SL, Study.com, or Saylor had Linear Algebra or Discrete Math.

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#13
Ideas Wrote:ACE considers Shmoop Finite Math to be LL. "In the lower-division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 3 semester hours in finite mathematics, business mathematics, or survey of actuarial science (7/16)." You could still check just in case.

Yes, I knew that (and never said it wasn't), I was just asking the OP to check with TESU to get a course equivalency. Finite Math (that I took in CC) was just before Stats, so it would probably never be considered UL anywhere. But a course equivalency would be nice to have.
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#14
The website says that Finite Math can't be used.
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#15
sanantone Wrote:The website says that Finite Math can't be used.

I missed that, I've never actually looked at the ASNSM in Math before!
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#16
TrailRunr Wrote:You may have to take a math course from community college or online via APU. Discrete math, calc 3, calc 4, and linear algebra would be the easiest choices.

TESU has a policy where community college courses are always considered Lower Level because of it being a cc. So it wouldn't count if done at a cc?

A Discrete Math course is sorely needed, or at least Linear Alg or Calc III.

Wow, APUS is $270 per credit hr Sad

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#17
Even if someone got that many credits for Calc I, they still need 9 credits of Theory which is: "Calculus II (Integral Calculus); Calculus III (Multivariate Calculus); Discrete Math; Linear Algebra (Calculus Based); Probability; Statistics; Matrix Algebra; Number Theory."

So 3 cr Statistics are easy and cheap, and 3-4 cr Calc II, and you still need one of the hard to find courses Sad I would love to find a 3 credit course that meets the requirements that isn't expensive.

(Geometry and the extra Calc I/II credits would fill the math Electives, and some other basic math is needed for GenEds, like Intermediate Algebra.)

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#18
Ideas Wrote:TESU has a policy where community college courses are always considered Lower Level because of it being a cc. So it wouldn't count if done at a cc?

A Discrete Math course is sorely needed, or at least Linear Alg or Calc III.

Wow, APUS is $270 per credit hr Sad

I don't believe that any of the associate's degrees require UL credit. You should be able to find discrete math at a CC, and it would be LL even if you took it from TESU.
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#19
Have you considered your ability to finish these courses? It's nice to rattle off all of these potential math courses, but they are HARD for the vast majority and require lots of homework and studying to master. Is calculus easy for you? I hope so, because the later courses are even harder. For example, you are assigned around 45 problems a week in the APU Linear Algebra course, and you really do need to do 75% of them correctly to barely pass even though none of it counts towards your grade. Most of the problems are of medium to hard difficulty until you master the material. If you don't do the homework, you won't pass the exams. Unlike traditional school math courses, the grades are not curved so it's a lot of work to get the minimum 73% to pass with a C.
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#20
Ideas Wrote:I wish SL, Study.com, or Saylor had Linear Algebra or Discrete Math.
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