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They retired the academic program I applied for and suggested this instead but I don'
#21
soliloquy Wrote:Okay, I know I said my previous post would be my last post but this seems to be really bothering you so let me clarify. At the time you said Soliloquy take paralegal studies at COSC, with the information I had I was looking at 1.5 years to compete a Bachelor of Science degree. Perhaps I wasn't articulating myself well but i was trying to give you the state of mind I was in when you told me that and I didn't think it was a great idea. Later, I found out that I could earn 39 credits for my certification. 39 credits that I did not know about when you first brought it up. So, obviously when I was presented with this information and I learned I could complete it in just two semesters I had to reconsider it. Who wouldn't? Now, I still wasn't totally happy with it because the program does not allow me to sit for the state certification BUT it does allow me to sit for a national certification. So you see, that's why I said at the time you told me that my though process was that it would take too long to complete it. I wasn't lying. I was simply trying to explain why I said no thanks at the time you presented the idea. It was only because of the certification earning me 39 points there after the credential evaluation (which neither of us knew about when we had this discussion) that I went to COSC.

I understand why you changed your mind at that time. I do not understand why you would say that, if you had followed my advice, you would have graduated two semesters later. This is a statement you are making in hindsight.
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Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
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#22
sanantone Wrote:I understand why you changed your mind at that time. I do not understand why you would say that, if you had followed my advice, you would have graduated two semesters later. This is a statement you are making in hindsight.

That statement was regarding legal administration (which is still true), not my paralegal studies concentration. Smile I said that at a time when I thought the legal administration was mentioned at the undergraduate level. Look at the thread again.

You said "I recommended legal administration, and you told me to f^@% off."

I responded "First of all, I don't curse so I didn't tell you that and I am NEVER that rude. Second, you recommended it for undergrad and that was not something I was seeking for undergrad purposes. I wanted an undergrad program where I could use the available credits I had so I could avoid a lot of loans. I would have been at a strong disadvantage and would not be graduating in just two semesters had I followed your advice as it pertains to an undergrad program."

You later clarified that you mentioned legal administration for master's and not undergraduate. It was just a misunderstanding, not a smoke screen. I did not make that statement in regards to the BS in Paralegal Studies.

You've told me that you will not be giving me any further alternatives and I accept that as the price I have to pay. Now, let's move on. I hope you have a nice day.
Don't miss out on something great just because it might also be difficult.

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#23
soliloquy Wrote:You obviously have more experience with looking up programs than I do and I have appreciated your input. I've thanked you more times than I can count. If I state my concerns with an idea, you become sarcastic and combative. You have no grace. If I do more research, and determine that what you've suggested is my only viable option, why does that upset you so? Rather than be flattered or feel appreciated you become resentful (for lack of a better word) and start on this "I told you so" rampage like a little child. You act like I know you personally and I just reject your ideas and roll with whatever Kayv says for the heck of it. I've told you I appreciate you, that I have had initial concerns about some of your ideas and have conceded in other threads that ideas you have presented have indeed turned out to be my only option. But, that does not make me a liar. It is not a conspiracy nor is that passive aggressive to first feel ho hum about an idea and upon more research determine that it might be the only option nor am I arbitrarily picking Kayv's ideas over yours.

As far as the facetious posts and passive aggressive behavior. I don't say "I'm just joking" after making some accusation when I'm really quite serious. I just say what's on my mind. But, I don't have to be rude to do that and neither do you. Now, this is my last post to you (in this thread) because I have no intention of arguing with you all day. If being right is that important to you, then by all means, bask in the glow of your victory. What's important me is that I find a program and you are distracting me from that. I'm not going to let you continue to bate me with your sarcastic posts.


Soliloquy,

Not sure if this will help but is there anyone in the chosen field you want to enter that you already know? Maybe someone in your current organization who sits in the position, or a coworker who possibly knows of someone?

Bottom line; someone who holds the position or works in the field of interest is the best person(s) to seek out for help in this matter. There may be alternate degrees you could use that would position you in the same arena. Maybe a hybrid approach - seeking out a degree in the area (not necessarily specific option) while seeking out employment in the field of interest? Even if it means a possible step back to position yourself well for advancement once the graduate degree is earned. If you work in the chosen field even entry or mid level positions, the company will pick up the cost of the degree (most after 1 year probationary period/even less time for certain employers). There are other approaches that I'm sure you could think of when you take a bit of time to get creative.

Once you reach a certain level, it is a good idea to seek out a career mentor, in pharma we refer to them as our godfather/mother. They are basically someone 2-4 levels above where you currently sit. The beauty of this person is they guide you in your career and after developing a solid relationship usually bring you along as their own careers grow. They are also your biggest fans/solicitors in times of promotions and/or bonuses. Some have two: a public mentor (1-2 levels above) and a more private (3-4 levels) mentor/godparent.

I apologize for the rant, just wanted to add a few thoughts to the discussion. A graduate degree is not just another check a box diploma, it's a change in life decision.

"Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about achieving it and staying with that plan." -Tom Landry

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#24
bricabrac Wrote:Soliloquy,

Not sure if this will help but is there anyone in the chosen field you want to enter that you already know? Maybe someone in your current organization who sits in the position, or a coworker who possibly knows of someone?

Bottom line; someone who holds the position or works in the field of interest is the best person(s) to seek out for help in this matter. There may be alternate degrees you could use that would position you in the same arena. Maybe a hybrid approach - seeking out a degree in the area (not necessarily specific option) while seeking out employment in the field of interest? Even if it means a possible step back to position yourself well for advancement once the graduate degree is earned. If you work in the chosen field even entry or mid level positions, the company will pick up the cost of the degree (most after 1 year probationary period/even less time for certain employers). There are other approaches that I'm sure you could think of when you take a bit of time to get creative.

Once you reach a certain level, it is a good idea to seek out a career mentor, in pharma we refer to them as our godfather/mother. They are basically someone 2-4 levels above where you currently sit. The beauty of this person is they guide you in your career and after developing a solid relationship usually bring you along as their own careers grow. They are also your biggest fans/solicitors in times of promotions and/or bonuses. Some have two: a public mentor (1-2 levels above) and a more private (3-4 levels) mentor/godparent.

I apologize for the rant, just wanted to add a few thoughts to the discussion. A graduate degree is not just another check a box diploma, it's a change in life decision.

Hmmm. I actually have an annual national convention coming up this week and expect to be in the company of several thousand other paralegals and attorneys. I will network and wait to speak to some of them so I can get some advice. Thanks!
Don't miss out on something great just because it might also be difficult.

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If God hadn't been there for me, I never would have made it. Psalm 94:16-19
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#25
soliloquy Wrote:Hmmm. I actually have an annual national convention coming up this week and expect to be in the company of several thousand other paralegals and attorneys. I will network and wait to speak to some of them so I can get some advice. Thanks!

Perfect! And excellent timing!!

"Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about achieving it and staying with that plan." -Tom Landry

TESC:
AAS, Admin Studies. 2010
BA, Social Sciences. 2010. Arnold Fletcher Award.
AAS, Environmental, Safety & Security Technologies. 2011
BSBA, General Management. 2011. Arnold Fletcher Award. Sigma Beta Delta (ΣΒΔWink!
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#26
soliloquy Wrote:That statement was regarding legal administration (which is still true).

I couldn't find anywhere in that thread where I recommended legal administration for your bachelor's degree. I made one general mention of legal studies along with paralegal studies as being better alternatives to political science, but focused on the paralegal studies program at COSC. I will return to my policy of not responding to the threads you start. I think that will be beneficial to the both of us even though you will miss out on my excellent advice. Big Grin Have a good day.
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
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SL
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A&P
Davar
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