l don’t recommend this school

[tsgreer]

--FYI, you might want to run some of these sentences through an AI checker. I would STRONGLY suggest you do that, in fact.



I'm not OP, and I haven't been accused of anything like this, but do you have any good recommends for a good ai/plagerize checker that we should use? 


I'm afraid to use one, because I'm afraid that if I put my paper in one, it will be in the memory and then if the teachers uses a checker, it may false flag my text, cuz it would be matching up against my own previous text. If that makes sense...lol

[rachel83az]

I'm afraid to use one, because I'm afraid that if I put my paper in one, it will be in the memory and then if the teachers uses a checker, it may false flag my text, cuz it would be matching up against my own previous text. If that makes sense...lol

Makes sense. ASU uses TurnItIn for at least some of their Universal Learner classes. One part of their 1-credit class is an assignment involves writing instructions on how to make a sandwich. My submission got flagged as being something like 5% plagiarized because of the phrase "peanut butter sandwich," which repeated multiple times. I was able to click and partially see where this was coming from, presumably so I could cite it properly. I didn't get full info, though. I assume the teachers are able to see full info. I found this to be interesting, but also hilarious. ASU had no problems with that, because of course you can't cite the common phrase "peanut butter sandwich". 

That said, if you want a plagiarism checker and you're not trying to pull sneaky shenanigans, try ProWritingAid. I don't think it puts anything anywhere, especially if you use the online app and set it as a private document. Pricing starts at $10 for 10 checks and goes down from there if you pay for more checks: https://prowritingaid.com/en/App/PlagiarismChecker The online app is at https://app.prowritingaid.com/ It gives URLs when it finds plagiarised content.

[jsd]

--FYI, you might want to run some of these sentences through an AI checker. I would STRONGLY suggest you do that, in fact.



I'm not OP, and I haven't been accused of anything like this, but do you have any good recommends for a good ai/plagerize checker that we should use? 


I'm afraid to use one, because I'm afraid that if I put my paper in one, it will be in the memory and then if the teachers uses a checker, it may false flag my text, cuz it would be matching up against my own previous text. If that makes sense...lol

Hard to say. When I'm grading papers, I have access to subscription services to check this stuff (for example, for plagiarism in particular, we use TurnItIn like most places).

For public AI checkers, I don't have much experience since I just use the school's subscription service. But I've seen good things about https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector

For example, I ran the OP's "explanation" letter to the professor through this, and it found lines that were up to a 74% likelihood of being generated by AI. Lo and behold, when I asked ChatGPT to spin up a couple explanations for me, at one point it spit out a nearly identical sentence except a couple keywords were changed. So a better job than the blazingly obvious plagiarized draft, but still had some issues.

[umpica2022]

It is very clear that the work is plagiarism and weaponizing  race is a weak argument into why the teacher CLEARLY saw plagiarism. I knew your argument was weak when you decided to pretend you knew nothing about ChatGPT or any other AI related software.

[Pats20]

The run on sentences and horrible grammar in the forum posts compared to the submission is what did it for me.

[freeloader]

Setting aside whether there was plagiarism or not, there is something else that feels odd about OP’s stated position:

A draft at UMPI, at least in the way I used them, was an attempt at the assignment. If it missed the mark, needed improvement in some area, or was totally off base, you get it sent back and have a second go at it. If the work was good enough, I, and I suspect most everybody who attends/attended UMPI was told “your work is good, this is a A paper, resubmit as your final assignment” or something like “this is a good paper and would pass with a B, feel free to submit it as your final assignment for a B or work on these areas to improve it to potentially earn a higher grade”.

In one class, the professor refused to look at an outline and insisted that I use the draft feature to have comments on my “raw” work, but I: 1) had already discussed with the professor and they knew what was coming in my draft submission and 2) I made it clear (by spelling it out) that I was submitting an outline, raw work, that it was missing citations, etc.

Maybe OP didn’t understand what drafts were, didn’t attempt to let the professor know what their draft entailed, etc, but I honestly find that pretty doubtful.  If OP had actually completed 10 courses at UMPI and had been told something along the lines of what I quoted above, it should have been perfectly obvious how the professor understood the draft process to work.   They clearly understand a draft to be the students’ original work, not just some “raw” material culled from internet sources, and that fact should have been clear to OP before this ever got to this point.

[dsec2013]

The run on sentences and horrible grammar in the forum posts compared to the submission is what did it for me.

I teach grade 6 students in Jamaica where our official language is supposedly English. However, majority of our students mainly speak the dialect, because that is what they are exposed to on a daily basis. Standard English is foreign to most of them at this age. The OP's forum posts had every error that my grade 6 students make when they start writing classes with me at the start of the school year. I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE, and then some!!!

[studyingfortests]

Late to the party, but here are a few thoughts:

I didn't see the original post. (I always find it interesting when someone comes in guns blazing, things don't go their way, and then they edit their original post so people can't see what was originally claimed.) However, there were references to it, and excerpts in other posts.

Some things are clear:

1. The writing style in the excerpt is *nothing* like the writing style in the OP's posts in the thread. It's obvious to anyone with any sort of discernment that the two pieces of writing are not from the same person.

2. I don't know how to get it across, but finding a source and paraphrasing it **is not original writing.** So there's no way that would have been acceptable. Most writing assignments list a maximum percentage of the paper that can be quoted from another source, and it's something like 15% usually (depending on the topic.) Ripping a whole paper and running it through a paraphraser does not constitute writing a paper. And it's pretty clear this is what went on, as others in the thread have taken parts of the original and fed it through a paraphraser and gotten almost word-for-word the posted results. **The paper appears to have been plagiarized, and the OP got clocked on it.** No racism, nothing unfair.

3. I don't know how the faculty politics and policies are at UMPI, but at many schools, there is tremendous extra paperwork and time associated with reporting plagiarism. Reports to file, discussions to be had, and... sometimes you go through that, and someone at the school finds for the student. So many professors will simply let something fly not because it isn't plagiarism, but because the overhead of reporting it isn't worth the professor's time. Thus, it is entirely possible the OP had a bunch of classes, the professors knew exactly what was going on (it would be obvious to anyone skilled at looking for it), but decided it wasn't worth the hassle to report it. Until the OP got to this most recent professor (and thank God there are still professors like this one out there!) It seems pretty likely this is what happened.


Some years ago, my company hired a recent USC grad with a finance/business degree some years back. He was to be a marketing person, and the position was set up so that there was potential for him to be a partner in the business over time. (This was before social media was much of a thing... the era of blogs and such.) His first task was to write a bunch of blog articles. They came across my desk for review, and... something didn't look quite right. So I spent about 10 minutes searching and... low and behold, most of the articles were word-for-word plagiarism from other blogs.

We confronted him on this, and he first claimed that this was "standard in the field" (which, of course, it was not, and would have dinged our SEO.) He next offered to rewrite all the articles. I reviewed the second go-round, and he'd found a new set of articles, slightly reworded a few things (but so little that I was still able to find the sources in a minute or two). And he didn't understand why we had an issue with this. Ultimately, he wasn't interested in actually doing the writing, and thought he could get away with doing no work, plagiarizing everything, and we'd never know. We parted ways.

The point being... it is astounding how many people seem to legitimately think it is perfectly fine to just plagiarize content, make a few tweaks, and pass it off as your own. **It isn't.** The sooner OP realizes this, and actually decides it's worth his while to actually do the work, the better off he will be.

But I'm not under any illusion he'll ever own up to it or admit it. He seems way too steeped in his own false narrative to take anything anyone here has to say.

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Just expel this guy from the school already. He's good for nothing, copy cat whining here. Yo, UMPI is not for you.

^^^THIS^^^

[pluggingalong]

I hope this is comedy. This could be an SNL skit called "BLUMPI Man".

[path_seeker]

People like you make things harder for other students. UMPI trusted us till now with exams and assignments. If cases like these get repeated, the university people may bring changes which may make things to move slower. People like me who can't get any aid or grant cannot afford extra sessions because of new policies. Let's keep UMPI cheaper and faster option. Don't ruin it.