Should I challenge my Advisor at EC? My advisor is making me take a UEXCEL course.

[SuZQ2]

Folks,

I need a little help. I have tested out of 33 credits in the last 2 months, and I am down to the College Composition Requirement, and the Capstone for a BS in Liberal Arts at EC. EC has accepted a UL English Composition course from New School for Social Research. I asked my advisor for advice on the easiest way to complete the College Composition Requirement which would be a LL english composition.
My advisor's response was that I was required to take the UEXCEL College composition course. I asked the advisor if they would consider accepting the College Composition from CLEP, or the Business Writing from DSST. The advisor stated no; they would only accept the UEXCEL .

I have taken several UEXCEL courses and I have received A's but the questions are written in such a way that they try draw the student into the wrong answer. Since I am so close to completion I did not want to chance a failure as I learned all those grammar rules a long time ago.

I have been studying for the CLEP. Should I let this slide or should I challenge my advisor?

Many Thanks in advance!!!

I enrolled at EC in 2014 and submitted SL's Comp I and Comp II as my 6 credit Written English Requirement. Both were accepted.

I too am at a point where I do not want to jeopardize my GPA, so for me, pass/fail courses with Straighterline were the way to go.

Good Luck!

[os4185]

Many Thanks Regent Prioko,

I had a good discussion with my advisor today, and they will not budge. My advisor stated that since I had only taken one Excelsior course for the entire degree they would not make an exception to their policy. She did offer an olive branch by saying that all the feedback she had received indicated it was a fairly easy two essay test.

Many Thanks for all the help!

[Life Long Learning]

EC is also about making $$$

[NAP]

Many Thanks Regent Prioko,

I had a good discussion with my advisor today, and they will not budge. My advisor stated that since I had only taken one Excelsior course for the entire degree they would not make an exception to their policy. She did offer an olive branch by saying that all the feedback she had received indicated it was a fairly easy two essay test.

Many Thanks for all the help!

I don't understand this. Are you trying to meet a residency requirement (like 12 credits through EC) so that you don't have to pay an enrollment fee? If so, that is good news that they will accept UExcel towards it and not just EC classes. (I checked that they still offer no residency - except capstone - by paying an enrollment fee and page 3 of the 2015 LA catalog says ACE credit - like SL - is accepted for WER.)

[Exfactor]

This policy has been projected for years.

EC is also about making $$$

True; however, all insitutions of higher learning are in the business of making money. It's not like this is a new policy change, it's actually been in place for years.

[Prloko]

To reiterate what NAP mentioned, is this for residency purposes? What plan where you under? If this is due to that, I can understand. But if they are speaking out of both sides of their mouths and saying no residency is required but are getting "mad" because you didn't take a course with them, that's a different story.

[Prloko]

True; however, all insitutions of higher learning are in the business of making money.

This is a huge stretch. In fact in many or most public institutions, students attend for LESS than the cost of their education and the rest is made up with public funds. Even a private institution like Harvard gives a large portion of their student body a free ride or a deep discount due to the huge endowment they've been provided. Yes some schools need to institute cash-cow programs to pay for other programs, but this isn't solely a profit making effort.

I'm not sure what Excelsior's intent was and its unfair for some to imply that the school is only doing this for money without getting all the facts. But if it is, it's real cheesy.

[Exfactor]

This is a huge stretch. In fact in many or most public institutions, students attend for LESS than the cost of their education and the rest is made up with public funds. Even a private institution like Harvard gives a large portion of their student body a free ride or a deep discount due to the huge endowment they've been provided. Yes some schools need to institute cash-cow programs to pay for other programs, but this isn't solely a profit making effort.

True. However, that don't matter because at the end of the day money has to come from somewhere to keep the schools going. No school exist without money flowing through it. I don't understand why people continue to act like schools are not businesses, they are. Whether it's a private or public college or university money is a focus. Students are consumers, while college and university presidents are CEO's.

I'm not sure what Excelsior's intent was and its unfair for some to imply that the school is only doing this for money without getting all the facts. But if it is, it's real cheesy.

This is not a new policy, it has been in place for years. I never said the school was doing it for money, another poster did. I said the policy has been in place for years. So this isn't something that just popped out of no where.

[Prloko]

This is not a new policy, it has been in place for years. I never said the school was doing it for money, another poster did. I said the policy has been in place for years. So this isn't something that just popped out of no where.

I know you didn't, that's why I said it was unfair for some to say that. But what is the policy you are talking about? You can understand someone's confusion when both Excelsior and Straighterline post on their websites course equivalencies, that show the course as acceptable in transfer. Are you speaking of a residency policy? That's where my confusion lies. If it's a residency issue, then case closed, but if not, what and where is this policy?

[Prloko]

Students are consumers, while college and university presidents are CEO's.

Again, a stretch. You completely ignore the huge research missions of most major universities. Some of the best research and scientific advances for mankind have come out of universities, and if student tuition and grants need to fund that, I'm all for it. I'm not going to make the jump that all universities are businesses. Not every school is the Big 3 or UoP.

While you're right that students are consumers and many degrees are a product, I won't make that leap. But I'll stop here and let you get the last word because we are hijacking the OPs thread.