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San Francisco Will Be First in Nation to Make City College Free
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San Francisco Will Be First in Nation to Make City College Free

"Mayor Ed Lee announced on Monday that the city will be the first in the nation to make college free for all students, regardless of their income."

http://abc7news.com/education/san-franci...e/1740415/
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jsd Wrote:San Francisco Will Be First in Nation to Make City College Free

"Mayor Ed Lee announced on Monday that the city will be the first in the nation to make college free for all students, regardless of their income."

San Francisco will be first in nation to make city college free for all students | abc7news.com

What he really meant is there will be an increase in sales taxes, parking fines, permits, fees, etc. Nothing is free.
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I get your point, but I'm not sure where you're getting those particular sources of funding. The article laid out pretty well where the funding is coming from: An increase in real estate transfer tax for properties over $5million.
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jsd Wrote:I get your point, but I'm not sure where you're getting those particular sources of funding. The article laid out pretty well where the funding is coming from: An increase in real estate transfer tax for properties over $5million.

Which is still a patently unfair seizure of one groups money for the benefit of another.
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I'm not going to bother debating the merits of taxes in a society, I'm just sharing the news.
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I'm always sad when I see promotion of free community college. Why? Glad you asked. Wink Because community college tuition is already tax-funded and open enrollment. For those that are very poor, a Pell Grant will pay most of or all of their tuition for a full degree. For those working part time or attending college part time, attending the CC in your district is generally something you can cash-flow. The average for US is sitting at about $100/cr. So even if you don't qualify for a Pell Grant, or scholarships, or employer reimbursement, or work-study programs, a student loan (one loan- not one per year) will cover it all.

So, since it's open enrollment, academic merit is not a barrier to admission. CCs have a full suite of tutoring and learning services- certainly more than your average 4 year school. So, if you CAN do the work, you will be able to.

Cost is not a barrier to admission or completion. Yet, community college graduation rates are around 13% depending on whose stats you review. Yes, I know, not everyone who takes classes intends on graduating......So, tell me then, why anyone other than the student should pick up the cost for someone that doesn't even intend to graduate?

The better return on investment would be to pay for courses at the 300/400 level. That group has already demonstrated motivation and worthiness. If you really REALLY want the best ROI, let's drop tuition for grad school.
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No need to debate the political merits here JSD.....its all being said in the comments section of this article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-francisco...05087.html

Note that this is for Community College and to access the "free" funds one would have to live in San Fransisco for a year and a day.....if you can afford that I bet you can afford the tuition in the first place. https://www.ccsf.edu/en/student-services...-fees.html
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rebel100 Wrote:No need to debate the political merits here JSD.....its all being said in the comments section of this article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-francisco...05087.html

Note that this is for Community College and to access the "free" funds one would have to live in San Fransisco for a year and a day.....if you can afford that I bet you can afford the tuition in the first place. https://www.ccsf.edu/en/student-services...-fees.html

I lived in the Bay Area for 12 years. Actually living in the City of SF is so outrageously expensive, I imagine that most people who can afford it probably already have a bachelor's degree and are making a very nice living there - or they are so poor that they qualify for Section 8 housing, and would also qualify for Pell Grants.

Let's not even mention the fact that in CA, our CC's are already VERY inexpensive because they're highly subsidized by the taxpayers - about $46/cr for most CC's. You can get an AA for less than $3,000.
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States I've read about doing free community college are paying for through lottery money.

Community college tuition/book costs add up. Many people make too much to qualify for help but not enough to pay cash for cc.
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