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I'm curious what everyone thinks of the idea of a master's degree with less than 30 hours. My guess is they're doing some kind of resume review to see if your work experience is sufficient to be equivalent to 12 hours? Just conjecture, the program looks fairly new. Does anyone know of any other programs that are under 30 hours? I had always assumed 30 was a hard floor.
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03-03-2023, 12:36 AM
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This is odd. You must work in specific fields for a minimum of 5 years to apply to the program so I am guessing they are very selective about who they're letting in. 18 credits for a master's is strange. It would be interesting to see how other schools feel about this degree. Would it be sufficient for a doctorate program at another school? Many doctoral programs require a master's or 2 for entrance. This could be a an issue where there's a shortage of credits. It is an interesting concept. I wonder how it goes over 5 years from now since it begins this fall.
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From my point of view I will say that 30 is the bare minimum and the desired is 60 hours. You have to learn something during the degree.
Let me clarify that if you have experience in the field or prior knowledge in the field 30 credits can be perfectly acceptable, but if you go from a non related field to another that is completely different for many experience you have (your commented 12 credits) then you will do only 18 hours, which seems a little short to be called anything in a subject you never had formal instruction before.
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This is interesting! I was looking for an MPA program. I'll have to check this out!
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03-03-2023, 09:58 AM
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18 credit masters - that's what many programs offer for a certificate. Might as well do it for the Diploma and it's RA, if one is interested in an MPA.
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I'm shocked that their accreditor approved this. Other than an LLM, which is a post-professional degree, I've never seen a master's degree that is less than 30 credits. I've seen graduate certificates ranging from 9 credits to 24 credits.
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(03-03-2023, 11:22 AM)sanantone Wrote: I'm shocked that their accreditor approved this. Other than an LLM, which is a post-professional degree, I've never seen a master's degree that is less than 30 credits. I've seen graduate certificates ranging from 9 credits to 24 credits.
I was shocked by this as well. I figured there had to be some sort of PLA, prior experience credit, or similar that would get this degree to 30 credits, but didn’t see it.
The course sequence is bizarre:
https://www.marywood.edu/public-administ...ers-degree
There is no indication that you start in the spring. If you are expected to start in the fall, you take the capstone before you take the research methodologies course. Surely they expect you to start in the spring, right?
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I emailed the school to find out about the course sequence since the capstone is listed for Fall, also wanted to know if they accept any transfer credits. Seems like a short and interesting program that can be completed fast.
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(03-03-2023, 12:54 AM)Kab Wrote: From my point of view I will say that 30 is the bare minimum and the desired is 60 hours. You have to learn something during the degree.
Let me clarify that if you have experience in the field or prior knowledge in the field 30 credits can be perfectly acceptable, but if you go from a non related field to another that is completely different for many experience you have (your commented 12 credits) then you will do only 18 hours, which seems a little short to be called anything in a subject you never had formal instruction before.
60 credits for a master's degree? Those aren't super common. Most are 30-36. Few 48 which are usually MBAs. Who would want a 60 credit master's?
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