Master's program at UMPI with an existing UoPeople BS-CS degree

[ecdw94]

Apply to ENEB, there are no issues with people without a Bachelors.  Institutions globally have conditional acceptance for those who don't have all the requirements.  I've had over 10+ people on this board alone (not including family and friends that I told about ENEB) have successfully enrolled without a hitch at all.  That's plenty without a degree...

Alright, I think this is the way. Thank you for your guidance sensei.

Just one more idea. Is the final paper at ENEB the only requirement to graduate? As to, no need to get credits, as in, no possibility to transfer credits to shorter the study? At least, this is what I have heard so far.



PS: Really do not understand why they simply accept people who do not have all the requirements..


"The school is legit but with a catch for the unaware. A finished degree comes with a transcript, can be apostilled, and can be verified on their partner university's website, so it can be used for things like immigration to certain countries. Unlike many schools, which would restrict a business Master's to people who have a Bachelor's in Business Administration or the like, this school also accepts people of any Bachelor's degree subject. I have taken related courses from another school in another European country and the content was similar. The ENEB courses give ECTS (European university credits), which theoretically transfer to the same subject of classes at any European university. The catch: As you are studying topics including Business Management, Project Management, Human Resources, International Taxes, etc, you get the equivalent of a European "workforce Master's" instead of a "research Master's" (in the USA most people don't know the difference, and in the fields the ENEB business school is offering the distinction normally doesn't matter). The former is a degree intended for hopping straight into the workforce or getting promotions within your current career, and you can't use it for certain protected/restricted job types in Spain (such as lawyer or public school teacher). The latter is intended as entrance to PhD studies and an academic career in research, and gives access to the mentioned protected job types in Spain. Note that if you require a Foreign Credit Evaluation (FCE) in order to get a job in the US (most people reading this will never need to as they do not need a work visa and will not work in a restricted job field), certain FCEs evaluate foreign 1-year Master's as well as workforce Master's poorly. If you are so inclined, you could theoretically transfer your credits from this business school to a European university and get a two-year research Master's there which would enable you to work in the restricted job types in Spain, or which would get a more favorable result from an FCE. After you pay on Groupon, you Email the school with the code you received in the redemption section and they get back to you with a student account. The learning is done through PDFs and videos, there are quizzes to check your knowledge and you write essays as assignments. In special cases you can test out of sections or transfer in credit from other schools. The one thing to watch out for is the material in the English version of the courses has been translated from Spanish, and sometimes the translation results in confusion. It's good to use online tools to reword the information, or if you know Spanish or are willing to trust online translation, just take the Spanish version of the course. The confusion is not enough to make you fail the course, especially if you are supplementing with outside information. Overall, I am VERY satisfied with the price and the knowledge I obtained. If you're on the fence, I'd say just do it." A review someone left about the school. This explains why you can not pursue a PhD having that degree, or why sometiems people need a second masters degree.

Taking that into consideration, is the "two degree" option, that what counters this? I think this review is strictly related to the MBA . But the schools offers MBA + another master.

Its funny though, how the ENEB MBA costs 384€ and the dual degree costs 299€

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Apply to ENEB, there are no issues with people without a Bachelors.  Institutions globally have conditional acceptance for those who don't have all the requirements.  I've had over 10+ people on this board alone (not including family and friends that I told about ENEB) have successfully enrolled without a hitch at all.  That's plenty without a degree...

Are you asian stew from degreeinfo forum?

[rachel83az]

Just one more idea. Is the final paper at ENEB the only requirement to graduate? As to, no need to get credits, as in, no possibility to transfer credits to shorter the study? At least, this is what I have heard so far.

It is sometimes possible to lessen the number of modules needed. For instance, students who have PMI certification may be granted credits for that. It's possible that they'd even accept some Coursera certificates as meeting their requirements for credits. Mostly, though, you just need to write the final paper.

[bjcheung77]

Alright, I think this is the way. Thank you for your guidance sensei.

Just one more idea. Is the final paper at ENEB the only requirement to graduate? As to, no need to get credits, as in, no possibility to transfer credits to shorter the study? At least, this is what I have heard so far.

PS: Really do not understand why they simply accept people who do not have all the requirements..
Its funny though, how the ENEB MBA costs 384€ and the dual degree costs 299€

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Are you asian stew from degreeinfo forum?

Yes, I am AsianStew on the sister forum, been on there for a longer period of time, but have much lesser posts. You can transfer into the ENEB program if you have graduate credits already. They don't accept just anyone, it may seem that way though, you need to have evidence you're moving forward with a degree and are almost complete. Here's an example, HAU MBA for $3K, I got my cousin in on the program when they didn't have a Bachelors yet.

My cousin was just 4 courses away from completing the Bachelors and wanted to get the $3K deal and do a reverse transfer to the Bachelors. And for others, it varied in number of remaining classes, but they all were admitted. As I mentioned, most institutions have a conditional acceptance (if not all), and HAU allowed them to take the courses required towards the HAU MBA and in turn, transfer them back into the Bachelors when needed.

Here's another example, Coursera/Edx degree options at the Masters level, there are a few options that do not require a Bachelors degree for entry. They require you to complete a set of courses on Coursera/Edx and if you've passed those three or four courses with flying colors, you're admitted into the degree program, those 3-4 classes would also transfer into the degree program, thus lessen the requirements of the degree.

[ecdw94]

You can still enroll in ENEB without the completion of the UOP BS, they just need you to have 'some' college and close to finishing a degree.  They can substitute that with various things such as certs, experience, and so on.  You should take the ENEB double option and use that for reverse transfer whenever you want as you can get various favorable evaluations listed on the WIKI.

Would you mind explaining the part with "reverse transfering" ? What do you mean, for what purpose? Is that, in case you can transfer your masters courses you have finished, back to your bachelors degree? What bachelors did she do though?

[davewill]

Yes, a reverse transfer is when you use credits from a master's program for a bachelor's or credits from a bachelor's program for an associate's. For example, people will go to community college and transfer to a 4-year school, without earning an associate's degree, and then drop out. Sometimes, they can transfer some of the coursework they did at the 4 year school back to the community college to at least earn an associate's.

In this case, the person got into the program at ENEB before they earned their bachelor's, since ENEB will allow that. They THEN transferred (or will transfer) those credits back to complete the bachelor's.

[bjcheung77]

@ecdw94, exactly as explained... My cousin did the ENEB MBA/Masters combo to transfer their business courses into the TESU BSBA in order to fill the AOS with upper level course requirements.

[ss20ts]

Why go through all of this without talking to Shea in UMPI's YourPace admissions? She will tell you if the bachelor's from U of the P will be acceptable for admission to the MAOL.

[ecdw94]

Why go through all of this without talking to Shea in UMPI's YourPace admissions? She will tell you if the bachelor's from U of the P will be acceptable for admission to the MAOL.

I did write UMPI (some admissions email) weeks ago. No reply yet. Wish I would have written to them sooner. But, to reach my goals I think I will not need UMPI because I could attend ENEB with the UoPeople BS degree and earn the masters there, which according to my information, is eligible for canada immigration purposes. While WES USA does not recognize it as a regionally accredited degree, which would have been an equivalent to a canadian masters degree, WES CAN does recognize the ENEB masters as a canadian masters equivalency.

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And all this because of bjchueng and his forum contributions.

[ss20ts]

Why go through all of this without talking to Shea in UMPI's YourPace admissions? She will tell you if the bachelor's from U of the P will be acceptable for admission to the MAOL.

I did write UMPI (some admissions email) weeks ago. No reply yet. Wish I would have written to them sooner. But, to reach my goals I think I will not need UMPI because I could attend ENEB with the UoPeople BS degree and earn the masters there, which according to my information, is eligible for canada immigration purposes. While WES USA does not recognize it as a regionally accredited degree, which would have been an equivalent to a canadian masters degree, WES CAN does recognize the ENEB masters as a canadian masters equivalency.

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And all this because of bjchueng  and his forum contributions.

I didn't say to contact UMPI or some admissions. I said to specifically contact Shea. She answers her emails and phone calls.

[nykorn]

Today a UoPeople student confirmed with UMPI YourPace admissions that "Your Bachelor's must be from a regionally accredited university so University of the People does not qualify".