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$900 Patten Elmwood Master of Leadership and Management (NA DEAC)
#11
Don't university programs usually have a title like:
Master of Arts in xxx
Master of Science in xxx
Master of Business Administration in xxx
?

In the US and EU I never came across brick and mortar or established online universities that didn't include any type of masters degree (arts, science, etc.) into the title earned.

In the EU, the degrees that didn't have this feature were typically not normal academic degrees but things like ENEB that are something like a degree but not really.
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A master degree with 36 credits, i think a master degree should have at least 60 credits
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(07-20-2024, 12:37 AM)Penny15 Wrote: A master degree with 36 credits, i think a master degree should have at least 60 credits

Not sure if you are joking or serious, but at the two RA state schools I have attended (both in Illinois) all masters degrees offered except those in nursing and social work were only 30-36 hours. Mine was an 30 hour MS.

American Masters degrees that go longer than 36 hours are the exception instead of the rule, unless you look at a professional field - like nursing, Physician Assistant, social work, engineering... etc cetera.

Heck, the two RA DOCTORATES I'm looking at are both 60 credits or less.

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(07-20-2024, 12:37 AM)Penny15 Wrote: A master degree with 36 credits, i think a master degree should have at least 60 credits

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(07-20-2024, 12:07 AM)David1477 Wrote: Don't university programs usually have a title like:
Master of Arts in xxx
Master of Science in xxx
Master of Business Administration in xxx
?

In the US and EU I never came across brick and mortar or established online universities that didn't include any type of masters degree (arts, science, etc.) into the title earned.

In the EU, the degrees that didn't have this feature were typically not normal academic degrees but things like ENEB that are something like a degree but not really.

"Master of [subject listed here directly]" title formats are moderately common in the US, Canada, and Australia they are normal academic degrees. Arizona State University Thunderbird School of Global Management has a Master of Leadership and Management (MLM) and a Master of Global Management (MGM). There are several handfuls of Master of Organizational Leadership (MOL) programs.
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Master of Commercial Aviation https://www.deltastate.edu/academics/gra...grams/mca/
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(07-20-2024, 12:37 AM)Penny15 Wrote: A master degree with 36 credits, i think a master degree should have at least 60 credits

30-39 credits for a Master's is common in the United States.

(07-20-2024, 12:07 AM)David1477 Wrote: Don't university programs usually have a title like:
Master of Arts in xxx
Master of Science in xxx
Master of Business Administration in xxx
?

In the US and EU I never came across brick and mortar or established online universities that didn't include any type of masters degree (arts, science, etc.) into the title earned.

In the EU, the degrees that didn't have this feature were typically not normal academic degrees but things like ENEB that are something like a degree but not really.

You just listed the Master of Business Administration which does not carry the Arts or Science designation. Professional degrees usually don't. Another example would be the MD (Doctor of Medicine) degree. This is all common around the world. In some countries outside North America, Arts and Science designations are not used at all for any degree.
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(07-20-2024, 12:07 AM)David1477 Wrote: Don't university programs usually have a title like:
Master of Arts in xxx
Master of Science in xxx
Master of Business Administration in xxx
?

In the US and EU I never came across brick and mortar or established online universities that didn't include any type of masters degree (arts, science, etc.) into the title earned.

In the EU, the degrees that didn't have this feature were typically not normal academic degrees but things like ENEB that are something like a degree but not really.

No, this is not the case for Masters degrees.  While there are many that are designated as Master of Arts/Science in *subject*, there are plenty that don’t go that route.  Typically you will see Master of Occupational Therapy, Master of Social Work, Master of Leadership, etc.

I have been reading through Elmwood’s catalog. It seems that some proctored exams may be required. They talk about how your proctor can’t be a relative, etc., so I am thinking you have to seek out your own proctor, but I don’t know for sure.
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And it is possible to transfer in up to 50% - https://www.elmwoodinstitute.org/requirements-policies

I'm feeling the urge to apply - someone talk me out of it, lol
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I saw the Elmwood program yesterday and was going to post about it. Couldn't believe the price. Because of the price, this would definitely be an attractive choice over a propio. But the funny thing is that the foreign propio has at least a shot at being evaluated as equivalent to RA in some capacity, while a domestic degree from Elmwood would always get the NA recognition and have less utility, though not nearly as little as it would have in the past, especially now that schools are thirsty for enrollments.

The price is so insanely low probably to either attract students and build a base quickly, or because they are using a propio-like grading model to keep the costs low. Or, it's all exam-based to keep the costs low. Either way, if I were still in the market for a degree I'd give it a look. At $900, you can't lose.
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