2 Bachelors = BLS & BA OR BABA - possible?

[ss20ts]

I know this is an older thread but I am struggling to find an answer to my question and figured this may be the best place.

From what I am understanding, if you were to get a Liberal Arts Degree from UMPI it would be "terminal". Does that apply to the BSLA from Excelsior? If I get the BSLA from Excelsior, could I go on to get the BABA from UMPI later on (several years) if I decided I wanted or specifically needed a Business degree, or am I forever stuck with just the BSLA?

Every college has their own policies. Excelsior is different than UMPI. Excelsior does not want students to complete a second bachelor's degree with them. For the second bachelor's degree at EU, you have to complete an additional 30 UL credits AFTER your first degree is conferred. They give students a really hard time about it and push them towards master's degrees instead. I went through this with both UMPI and EU. 

The BLS at UMPI is a terminal degree. The EU degree doesn't impact UMPI degrees. It was only an issue if an UMPI student wanted to complete a second degree. For many years, BLS students could not complete a second bachelor's degree. That has now been changed. BLS students can now complete a second bachelor's degree after their BLS is conferred.

[NBM123]

I know this is an older thread but I am struggling to find an answer to my question and figured this may be the best place.

From what I am understanding, if you were to get a Liberal Arts Degree from UMPI it would be "terminal". Does that apply to the BSLA from Excelsior? If I get the BSLA from Excelsior, could I go on to get the BABA from UMPI later on (several years) if I decided I wanted or specifically needed a Business degree, or am I forever stuck with just the BSLA?

Every college has their own policies. Excelsior is different than UMPI. Excelsior does not want students to complete a second bachelor's degree with them. For the second bachelor's degree at EU, you have to complete an additional 30 UL credits AFTER your first degree is conferred. They give students a really hard time about it and push them towards master's degrees instead. I went through this with both UMPI and EU. 

The BLS at UMPI is a terminal degree. The EU degree doesn't impact UMPI degrees. It was only an issue if an UMPI student wanted to complete a second degree. For many years, BLS students could not complete a second bachelor's degree. That has now been changed. BLS students can now complete a second bachelor's degree after their BLS is conferred.

After I get the degree from EU, will I be able to use all the credits I have earned, put them towards the bachelor's from UMPI and then just complete the 30 residency credits, or does UMPI have any other requirements? 

I don't know if I will ever need a business degree, but I need a bachelors ASAP, so I am looking at the BSLA, as that is the easiest and fastest degree I can get right now. I just want to make sure that if for some unknown reason I do need a business degree, I will be able to get one quickly with only needing the 30 UMPI credits (plus 2-4 other business related courses through Study).

[ss20ts]

After I get the degree from EU, will I be able to use all the credits I have earned, put them towards the bachelor's from UMPI and then just complete the 30 residency credits, or does UMPI have any other requirements? 

I don't know if I will ever need a business degree, but I need a bachelors ASAP, so I am looking at the BSLA, as that is the easiest and fastest degree I can get right now. I just want to make sure that if for some unknown reason I do need a business degree, I will be able to get one quickly with only needing the 30 UMPI credits (plus 2-4 other business related courses through Study).

You'll be waived from the GEC and the general electives. You will need to complete at least 30 credits at UMPI. You also have to complete all of the major and concentration requirements so it's really more than 30 credits - close to 60. If you want a business degree, I would save the money and time and just get the business degree. The BLS is meaningless if you get a business degree. The BABA at UMPI can be completed in less than a year with ACE credits. There are people on here who started with 0 credits and finished it in 6 months.

[NBM123]

After I get the degree from EU, will I be able to use all the credits I have earned, put them towards the bachelor's from UMPI and then just complete the 30 residency credits, or does UMPI have any other requirements? 

I don't know if I will ever need a business degree, but I need a bachelors ASAP, so I am looking at the BSLA, as that is the easiest and fastest degree I can get right now. I just want to make sure that if for some unknown reason I do need a business degree, I will be able to get one quickly with only needing the 30 UMPI credits (plus 2-4 other business related courses through Study).

You'll be waived from the GEC and the general electives. You will need to complete at least 30 credits at UMPI. You also have to complete all of the major and concentration requirements so it's really more than 30 credits - close to 60. If you want a business degree, I would save the money and time and just get the business degree. The BLS is meaningless if you get a business degree. The BABA at UMPI can be completed in less than a year with ACE credits. There are people on here who started with 0 credits and finished it in 6 months.

You say that GEC and general electives are waved. Does this include American Government, Foreign Language, Creative Decision Making, and Science with Lab, even if you did not take those for your BSLA from EU?

[ss20ts]

You say that GEC and general electives are waved. Does this include American Government, Foreign Language, Creative Decision Making, and Science with Lab, even if you did not take those for your BSLA from EU?

Yes as the GEC is waived like I said.

[dfrecore]

After I get the degree from EU, will I be able to use all the credits I have earned, put them towards the bachelor's from UMPI and then just complete the 30 residency credits, or does UMPI have any other requirements? 

I don't know if I will ever need a business degree, but I need a bachelors ASAP, so I am looking at the BSLA, as that is the easiest and fastest degree I can get right now. I just want to make sure that if for some unknown reason I do need a business degree, I will be able to get one quickly with only needing the 30 UMPI credits (plus 2-4 other business related courses through Study).

If you need a bachelor's degree fast, why do you think EU's degree is the best option?  You have to do at least 2 8-week terms at EU to graduate - 1 for the cornerstone, and a separate one for the capstone.

You also need more UL credits brought in to EU than UMPI, and those aren't generally the fastest courses.

If you post which credits you already have here, we can tell you which degree would be the fastest.  I'm guessing that UMPI may be faster than EU for most people.  And costs less.

[NBM123]

After I get the degree from EU, will I be able to use all the credits I have earned, put them towards the bachelor's from UMPI and then just complete the 30 residency credits, or does UMPI have any other requirements? 

I don't know if I will ever need a business degree, but I need a bachelors ASAP, so I am looking at the BSLA, as that is the easiest and fastest degree I can get right now. I just want to make sure that if for some unknown reason I do need a business degree, I will be able to get one quickly with only needing the 30 UMPI credits (plus 2-4 other business related courses through Study).

If you need a bachelor's degree fast, why do you think EU's degree is the best option?  You have to do at least 2 8-week terms at EU to graduate - 1 for the cornerstone, and a separate one for the capstone.

You also need more UL credits brought in to EU than UMPI, and those aren't generally the fastest courses.

If you post which credits you already have here, we can tell you which degree would be the fastest.  I'm guessing that UMPI may be faster than EU for most people.  And costs less.

I am actually looking at options for both me and my kids. I think that I am going to go with UMPI, but that isn't an option for my kids due to their age (13 & 15). They don't know for certain if a business degree is of interest to them, and so they want to do a liberal arts degree in the meantime. They will get the significant discount in tuition through EU because their dad is in the military, so I think it is cheaper than UMPI, as they would definitely need 2 terms to complete the 30 required credits. I am just making sure that if they decide they want/need a business degree in the future, that option is open to them and fairly easy to get once they are 20. 

This is the degree plan I have come up with. The courses on the UMPI side that are green will already be done, so they will only need to do the residency courses and 4 classes from study. Does this look right? The classes that they have left for the Liberal Arts degree are the UL ones from study, some sophia elective courses, and then the 7 EU credits.


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[ss20ts]

I am actually looking at options for both me and my kids. I think that I am going to go with UMPI, but that isn't an option for my kids due to their age (13 & 15). They don't know for certain if a business degree is of interest to them, and so they want to do a liberal arts degree in the meantime. They will get the significant discount in tuition through EU because their dad is in the military, so I think it is cheaper than UMPI, as they would definitely need 2 terms to complete the 30 required credits. I am just making sure that if they decide they want/need a business degree in the future, that option is open to them and fairly easy to get once they are 20. 

This is the degree plan I have come up with. The courses on the UMPI side that are green will already be done, so they will only need to do the residency courses and 4 classes from study. Does this look right? The classes that they have left for the Liberal Arts degree are the UL ones from study, some sophia elective courses, and then the 7 EU credits.

Several people on here have completed 30+ credits at UMPI in 1 session. The level of difficulty all depends on which courses you have remaining. You must be 20 years old for admissions to UMPI's YourPace program. If they are going to UMPI for 2 sessions, I wouldn't spend the money on Study since this is a second degree. 

Have you confirmed that health science is a liberal art? I'm going to say it's not because the health science degrees are not part of the liberal arts degrees. The health science classes you have listed are most likely going to be the applied professional credits. 

One thing to note. Degree programs do change. They're 5 and 7 years away from being able to attend UMPI. A lot can change in that time. When do they plan on enrolling at Excelsior? They, too, can and do change degree programs.

[NBM123]

I am actually looking at options for both me and my kids. I think that I am going to go with UMPI, but that isn't an option for my kids due to their age (13 & 15). They don't know for certain if a business degree is of interest to them, and so they want to do a liberal arts degree in the meantime. They will get the significant discount in tuition through EU because their dad is in the military, so I think it is cheaper than UMPI, as they would definitely need 2 terms to complete the 30 required credits. I am just making sure that if they decide they want/need a business degree in the future, that option is open to them and fairly easy to get once they are 20. 

This is the degree plan I have come up with. The courses on the UMPI side that are green will already be done, so they will only need to do the residency courses and 4 classes from study. Does this look right? The classes that they have left for the Liberal Arts degree are the UL ones from study, some sophia elective courses, and then the 7 EU credits.

Several people on here have completed 30+ credits at UMPI in 1 session. The level of difficulty all depends on which courses you have remaining. You must be 20 years old for admissions to UMPI's YourPace program. If they are going to UMPI for 2 sessions, I wouldn't spend the money on Study since this is a second degree. 

Have you confirmed that health science is a liberal art? I'm going to say it's not because the health science degrees are not part of the liberal arts degrees. The health science classes you have listed are most likely going to be the applied professional credits. 

One thing to note. Degree programs do change. They're 5 and 7 years away from being able to attend UMPI. A lot can change in that time. When do they plan on enrolling at Excelsior? They, too, can and do change degree programs.

I have not confirmed. You are the first person to point that out, so I will have to look into it. Thank you for the heads up.

My guess is they would enroll for the summer I (cornerstone & info literacy) and summer II (capstone) semesters next year, as they will be done with the 113 credits no later than August. They can then apply for graduation.

[dfrecore]

I am actually looking at options for both me and my kids. I think that I am going to go with UMPI, but that isn't an option for my kids due to their age (13 & 15). They don't know for certain if a business degree is of interest to them, and so they want to do a liberal arts degree in the meantime. They will get the significant discount in tuition through EU because their dad is in the military, so I think it is cheaper than UMPI, as they would definitely need 2 terms to complete the 30 required credits. I am just making sure that if they decide they want/need a business degree in the future, that option is open to them and fairly easy to get once they are 20. 

This is the degree plan I have come up with. The courses on the UMPI side that are green will already be done, so they will only need to do the residency courses and 4 classes from study. Does this look right? The classes that they have left for the Liberal Arts degree are the UL ones from study, some sophia elective courses, and then the 7 EU credits.

Several people on here have completed 30+ credits at UMPI in 1 session. The level of difficulty all depends on which courses you have remaining. You must be 20 years old for admissions to UMPI's YourPace program. If they are going to UMPI for 2 sessions, I wouldn't spend the money on Study since this is a second degree. 

Have you confirmed that health science is a liberal art? I'm going to say it's not because the health science degrees are not part of the liberal arts degrees. The health science classes you have listed are most likely going to be the applied professional credits. 

One thing to note. Degree programs do change. They're 5 and 7 years away from being able to attend UMPI. A lot can change in that time. When do they plan on enrolling at Excelsior? They, too, can and do change degree programs.

I have not confirmed. You are the first person to point that out, so I will have to look into it. Thank you for the heads up.

My guess is they would enroll for the summer I (cornerstone & info literacy) and summer II (capstone) semesters next year, as they will be done with the 113 credits no later than August. They can then apply for graduation.

Healthcare Organization & Management and Health Service Policy are not A&S courses so you'll have to choose something else.  Make sure you check SDC's website and choose courses that say A&S, Humanities, SocSci, etc.  Not Electives or Applied Professional.

Also, you cannot enroll at EU until you've graduated from high school.  You can take courses, but you can't graduate.  Not sure why you're going to graduate them at 14 & 16 anyway?  That seems very early.  You will have locked them into things, and you may not know if this is a good idea until later.  Your kid wants to go to a school for a specific degree - but the school won't accept them because it doesn't award 2nd bachelor's degrees.  They want to go to a competitive school for a master's degree - but the school won't accept them because they don't have enough graded credit.  Law school will be out of the question at most if not all law schools in the US.  I don't know - it just seems like you're making a big decision for them when they can't understand the ramifications of that decision yet.