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Texas Law on Using Substandard Degrees
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(07-28-2021, 05:58 PM)Kab Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 04:57 PM)sanantone Wrote: It's simple. Does ENEB have degree-granting authority from Spain? That is what Texas is looking for. Will NACES evaluate an ENEB master's degree as an accredited master's degree? Texas relies on their evaluations. If it is not evaluated as an accredited master's degree, it might be illegal to advertise that you have a master's degree for employment purposes. If NACES does not recognize the ENEB degree as an accredited master's degree, will a transcript from Isabel I change the outcome, and can you get a transcript from Isabel I?

I don't understand your confusion. I am very well-versed on my country's accreditation system; you may not be. I don't know.

First of all: Thanks, now I get it. I will answer to the best of my knowledge to your points.

Does ENEB have degree-granting authority from Spain?

The short answer is YES. It can give a "master", which are a kind of títulos propios with at least 60 ETC of content or an equivalet of a minimum of 30 credits in the USA. What you mean maybe was if they can give "Masteres Oficiales". From this ones they cannot, you need to be a University under the stands of the Spanish goverment for that. Requisites  to be a University are quite more tough than in USA and then you have to go across the proces to make each degree "oficial".  

Let me clarify. Is ENEB authorized by Spain to award titulos propios? If it is, then why do they have their degrees issued by Isabel I.

Will NACES evaluate an ENEB master's degree as an accredited master's degree?

Accredited means very few as a term, as accredited is just that somebody gives value to the degree being RA, NA, the State or a private accreditation agency.
If you mean RA accreditation, which I understand that is what you mean probably not because the guide until now has been that only "Masteres Oficiales" granted by a university receive this qualification.
The truth is valid in the other way around. In Spain anything that is not RA is not recognized as a university degree as far as I know. So it will be only valid as whoever that looks to the degree wants to put value in it, like a "titulo propio". Also oficial university degrees in Spain are from Bachelor up.

NACES a U.S. association of credential evaluation services. So far, we have not heard that a NACES organization has evaluated an ENEB degree as an accredited master's degree. We've heard that it's been evaluated as a non-accredited master's degree, a regionally accredited bachelor's degree, and a regionally accredited graduate certificate. 

(07-28-2021, 05:59 PM)Thorne Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 05:49 PM)sanantone Wrote: Do you remember the names of some of those schools? Several schools in Malaysia and Singapore are on Texas' illegal list. 

This is the current administrative code. Texas recognizes accreditors that are recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and qualified under Title IV. 

https://texreg.sos.state.tx.us/public/re...&ch=7&rl=6

One was Fazley College, if I recall, and it's not on the list. Regardless, people with those degrees tended not to list "Fazley College" or "Random Postsecondary Place" but just "University of Wales," which did have authority to issue degrees and did issue their own degree to students of those other colleges.

Validation/articulation/certification is kind of a tricky thing here in the US, because we don't really know how to handle it. For people who went to Fazley, whenever they went elsewhere, the degree was from UoW. Three of my Aussie friends did a validated degree through an online platform back when they were offered, one of them actually got his citizenship and a government job listing his UoW MBA that he got by studying with a totally unaccredited provider in Singapore.

Reading Governor Abbott's 2012 guidance from when he was attorney general, THECB can use its own discretion to determine if a school needs to seek a certificate of authority to offer degrees to people in Texas and whether that school will qualify for a certificate of authority. Unless it's coded, THECB can pretty much do what it wants. 

That leads me to this funny case. In 2007 or 2008, THECB did not recognize DETC even though it was recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. THECB now recognizes DEAC. Degrees from California Coast University were made illegal to use in Texas, not really because of lack of recognized accreditation because the school was licensed in California (recognized accreditation would have helped though), but because THECB determined that the level of work required for their degrees made them substandard. 

If you use CTRL-F, you'll find two stories on California Coast University. 

http://www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/pigeons/
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RE: Texas Law on Using Substandard Degrees - by sanantone - 07-28-2021, 06:17 PM

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