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Texas Law on Using Substandard Degrees
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(07-28-2021, 05:06 PM)Kal Di Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 04:16 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 03:41 PM)Kal Di Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 03:22 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(07-28-2021, 03:17 PM)Kab Wrote: Sanantone I get lost with you logic. Please help me out.

Which part of the Spanish law, under which they operate, does not permit them to award "titulos propios" or associate with a University to recognize the content. I'm lost.

If they were authorized to award degrees, they wouldn't have to issue them through Isabel I.

Spain's higher education system is different than the United States. There are no titulo propio degrees in the United States. Those degrees exist in Spain for people who only care to work in the private sector. Many graduates of such degrees understand that they can't use that degree to get a job in government or academia.

I lived in Spain and knew people who were successful with only a titulo propio degree. Some foreigners also obtain such degrees because it's more affordable. In the United States, many employers in the private sectors (excluding the Fortune 500 companies) won't care if you got a titulo propio degree. They care more about what you have studied and what you can do at work.  

Can you name a Texas case, where someone got fined and/or imprisoned for using a titulo propio degree?
There are schools with degree-granting authority awarding titulo propio degrees, including private schools like Isabel I and public schools. That is not the issue. The issue is that ENEB does not have degree-granting authority, and Isabel I will not issue transcripts for their students.

ENEB issues their own transcripts because it's an independent school. Isabel I only certifies ENEB's degree programs. Titulo propio degrees are legal in Spain. They don't need to be accredited by a government organization to offer higher education to students.

The U.S. is similar in that many private U.S. postsecondary schools (e.g. career institutes, technical schools, religious schools, etc) aren't accredited by a USDOE regional accrediting agency, but are still legal to award degrees, certificates or certifications in their state.

Example: I graduated from a postsecondary career institute. They're not accredited by a USDOE regional accrediting agency, but they're approved by its state's department of education. So, they have a legal right to operate and award such certificates and certifications in their state.

I can see that you do not understand the U.S. accreditation system. 

Regional accrediting agencies are not the only accrediting agencies recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. The U.S. Department of Education also recognizes national accrediting agencies and specialized/programmatic accrediting agencies. The U.S. Department of Education recently got rid of its national/regional designations, though, so institutional accreditors are simply listed as institutional accreditors. There is no need to keep mentioning regional accrediting agencies in this context because those are not the only recognized accrediting agencies. 

For schools to legally operate within a state, they need to be licensed. Many states will require a school to become accredited within a certain number of years unless there is a valid religious exemption for a religious school. Texas requires that an unaccredited school offering courses to Texas residents receive a certificate of authority to grant, not only academic degrees and certificates, but also honorary degrees. If the school is based in Texas, it will eventually have to attain accreditation. In other words, schools that award degrees have degree-granting authority either through their accreditation or through state authorization. ENEB does not have government authorization to award degrees, which is why it uses Isabel I, and it linked up with an unaccredited school in Florida in a poor attempt to make their degrees more accepted. This move by ENEB was foolish because the U.S. system does not allow colleges and universities to award degrees on private, unrecognized schools' behalf.
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RE: Texas Law on Using Substandard Degrees - by sanantone - 07-28-2021, 05:18 PM

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