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Would you go into teaching? For me, I don't know...
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(08-15-2022, 04:30 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Hmm, I didn't know that the "teaching crisis" was like this... I thought they were just "short staffed" at several schools or districts, but seems several states are severely understaffed and looking at anyone with relevant qualifications to quickly jump on board.

If they have a plan in place for each state to steadily (slow yet surely) raise the teacher pay and benefits, they would not be stuck in this situation. Hopefully, they will correct this situation, the sooner the better. They need to work on it "step by step" and make minor gains.

Link: School districts facing 'crisis' teaching shortage - The Washington Post
I had wanted to go into teaching when I was younger but have since realized dealing with low salary/public school bureaucracy isn't worth it.  I've noticed more and more families I know are becoming homeschooled. Naturally, no one has decided giving teachers better pay and resources will help.


I'm going for librarian instead, teaching kids (sort of) but being more in charge of what happens. The salary is still terrible where I live though. (of course)
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(08-17-2022, 06:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-17-2022, 01:51 PM)wow Wrote: In today's political environment, where teachers get blamed for everything they both parents and legislators? Where they are constantly hounded for teaching history accurately or describing reality? And most don't get paid very well? No, I would not teach.

They are hounded for teaching history inaccurately.  I taught my kids history (we homeschooled).  I'm half black, so I was certainly not going to whitewash things.  OTOH, I'm not going to say that all white people are bad because some had slaves (and some black people owned slaves as well).  I'm big on giving BOTH sides of things, and not letting them use presentism (using today's standards to judge yesterday).

If I thought teachers were unbiased and teaching both sides, I'd be fine.  But that's not the reality of schools today.
Interesting. I didn't even give an example of what the teachers were teaching, and you just assume that they are teaching it inaccurately. Your response is a great example of why people who care about the profession don't want to teach anymore--parents making assumptions and attacking based on those assumptions.
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(08-18-2022, 01:45 PM)wow Wrote:
(08-17-2022, 06:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-17-2022, 01:51 PM)wow Wrote: In today's political environment, where teachers get blamed for everything they both parents and legislators? Where they are constantly hounded for teaching history accurately or describing reality? And most don't get paid very well? No, I would not teach.

They are hounded for teaching history inaccurately.  I taught my kids history (we homeschooled).  I'm half black, so I was certainly not going to whitewash things.  OTOH, I'm not going to say that all white people are bad because some had slaves (and some black people owned slaves as well).  I'm big on giving BOTH sides of things, and not letting them use presentism (using today's standards to judge yesterday).

If I thought teachers were unbiased and teaching both sides, I'd be fine.  But that's not the reality of schools today.
Interesting. I didn't even give an example of what the teachers were teaching, and you just assume that they are teaching it inaccurately. Your response is a great example of why people who care about the profession don't want to teach anymore--parents making assumptions and attacking based on those assumptions.

First, you said they are hounded by teachers teaching history accurately - and I was pointing out that this is a problem that exists, where they are NOT doing that. It's a fact. I did not say that ALL teachers are doing this, but many are (I know of some).

Second, I did not attacking anyone, and I have never attacked any of my kids' teachers (they went to public high schools).  If I had an issue with what they were teaching my kids, I would have made an appointment to DISCUSS it with them, not gone wielding a knife.  There is no attacking going on here at all.

Seems like the issue here is with you, not me.
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(08-18-2022, 01:50 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-18-2022, 01:45 PM)wow Wrote:
(08-17-2022, 06:20 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(08-17-2022, 01:51 PM)wow Wrote: In today's political environment, where teachers get blamed for everything they both parents and legislators? Where they are constantly hounded for teaching history accurately or describing reality? And most don't get paid very well? No, I would not teach.

They are hounded for teaching history inaccurately.  I taught my kids history (we homeschooled).  I'm half black, so I was certainly not going to whitewash things.  OTOH, I'm not going to say that all white people are bad because some had slaves (and some black people owned slaves as well).  I'm big on giving BOTH sides of things, and not letting them use presentism (using today's standards to judge yesterday).

If I thought teachers were unbiased and teaching both sides, I'd be fine.  But that's not the reality of schools today.
Interesting. I didn't even give an example of what the teachers were teaching, and you just assume that they are teaching it inaccurately. Your response is a great example of why people who care about the profession don't want to teach anymore--parents making assumptions and attacking based on those assumptions.

First, you said they are hounded by teachers teaching history accurately - and I was pointing out that this is a problem that exists, where they are NOT doing that. It's a fact. I did not say that ALL teachers are doing this, but many are (I know of some).

Second, I did not attacking anyone, and I have never attacked any of my kids' teachers (they went to public high schools).  If I had an issue with what they were teaching my kids, I would have made an appointment to DISCUSS it with them, not gone wielding a knife.  There is no attacking going on here at all.

Seems like the issue here is with you, not me.
I think you're both arguing the same side. "Stop agreeing with me!"
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