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12-14-2020, 03:10 PM
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You're right. Discuss with your CUNY enrollment advisor and figure out which courses will transfer.
You have a ton of RA courses on BYU as well:
https://is.byu.edu/catalog?school=18
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(12-14-2020, 03:10 PM)nomaduser Wrote: You're right. Discuss with your CUNY enrollment advisor and figure out which courses will transfer.
You have a ton of RA courses on BYU as well:
https://is.byu.edu/catalog?school=18
Planning on checking with CUNY, about 90% with a credit plan that I am confident in. Will have to see what they say, but doing my research, and then doing an unofficial credit transfer evaluation. I figured I'll take the chance and jump on the pi deal for the cheapest RA credits by far from a reputable school.
Also am already working on Google IT cert, which from what it looks like could qualify me for an IS Minor.
I will post my plan once I finish it up here soon.
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(11-20-2020, 10:59 PM)MNomadic Wrote: https://www.outlier.org/
Calculus 1
Intro to Psychology
Intro to Astronomy(Beta)
Intro to Statistics(Beta)
It looks like each course is:
$400
3 transferable credits from University of Pittsburgh
Full refund if you don’t pass*
Immersive, interactive digital experience
Multiple instructors per class
On-demand(lectures), anywhere
Flexible exam window
It sounds like a similar concept to the ASU EA courses which is really a great model. The price is pretty good for what they offer. At least it shows there is some innovation and competition out there.
Also, it looks like they offer a free course to front-line workers On one level this is an article about a new Intro to Philosophy course on Outlier. On another level it's about the viability of the Outlier model as a piece of the future of higher education. Also, it's one of those articles where you learn as much from the comments as you do from the article itself.
https://dailynous.com/2021/01/14/high-pr...education/
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I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
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(01-28-2021, 02:47 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
Agreed! So many people are caught up in what they view as "the full college experience," which to them is mostly social. To me, it's about doing the work and earning the credits. I don't need or want the social aspects of it. Just give me the information and the assignments, and grade me on my performance. That's it. Actually I think "Small Group Communication" will stand in the way of my degree. Trying to organize group projects and meetings online, plus my grade being dependent on what others do or don't do... NOPE.
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(01-28-2021, 02:47 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
I can't tell you how many courses I've taken at a b&m college where the professor literally spent 45 or 50 minutes reading the textbook to us! What a freaking waste of time! I learned to read as a young child. I don't need someone to read the book to me. Definitely not someone I have to pay thousands of dollars for. There was no point in attending those classes either.
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(01-28-2021, 03:05 PM)ss20ts Wrote: I can't tell you how many courses I've taken at a b&m college where the professor literally spent 45 or 50 minutes reading the textbook to us! What a freaking waste of time! I learned to read as a young child. I don't need someone to read the book to me. Definitely not someone I have to pay thousands of dollars for. There was no point in attending those classes either.
Exactly. For every interesting teacher like Richard Feynman out there, there are probably dozens of book-readers. I have no issues with a teacher relying heavily on a given textbook but they should at least put some effort into making the class at least a little unique.
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(01-28-2021, 02:53 PM)monchevy Wrote: (01-28-2021, 02:47 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
Agreed! So many people are caught up in what they view as "the full college experience," which to them is mostly social. To me, it's about doing the work and earning the credits. I don't need or want the social aspects of it. Just give me the information and the assignments, and grade me on my performance. That's it. Actually I think "Small Group Communication" will stand in the way of my degree. Trying to organize group projects and meetings online, plus my grade being dependent on what others do or don't do... NOPE.
100%. I have told my kids since they were little, we won't be paying for a "college experience" but we will pay for your education.
And, do you ever notice how the justification for a group project in school is "you're going to have to work with other people "in the real world." Well, in my real-world experience, each person is responsible for a portion of a project, and are reporting to their boss, and if they don't do their part, they will get fired. There's accountability there. Not so in a school-related group project, none of the upside but all of the downside of working with a group. Ugh.
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(01-28-2021, 03:05 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (01-28-2021, 02:47 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
I can't tell you how many courses I've taken at a b&m college where the professor literally spent 45 or 50 minutes reading the textbook to us! What a freaking waste of time! I learned to read as a young child. I don't need someone to read the book to me. Definitely not someone I have to pay thousands of dollars for. There was no point in attending those classes either.
I actually took a course like that at NYU. It was insane. Every class, he'd just go around the room making us take turns reading out loud from the textbook. And since the class was International Economics, you can imagine how scintillating those 3 hours were twice a week.
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(01-28-2021, 05:43 PM)monchevy Wrote: (01-28-2021, 03:05 PM)ss20ts Wrote: (01-28-2021, 02:47 PM)rachel83az Wrote: I think I learned more from the comments than from the actual article! It's interesting how many people still think the internet is a terrible way to learn when so many B&M classes are just glorified computer labs anyway. You bring your computer in, you take notes on the computer while you watch the professor give a lecture, you leave. How is that different from a prerecorded lecture? Aside from the delay in getting questions answered; but how many students even bother/remember to ask questions during the lecture itself?
I guess extreme extroverts simply can't understand being able to learn while NOT surrounded by a seething mass of fellow students.
I can't tell you how many courses I've taken at a b&m college where the professor literally spent 45 or 50 minutes reading the textbook to us! What a freaking waste of time! I learned to read as a young child. I don't need someone to read the book to me. Definitely not someone I have to pay thousands of dollars for. There was no point in attending those classes either.
I actually took a course like that at NYU. It was insane. Every class, he'd just go around the room making us take turns reading out loud from the textbook. And since the class was International Economics, you can imagine how scintillating those 3 hours were twice a week.
Oh I get it! I had a financial accounting professor and a macroeconomics professor do this. Both were monotone. Nothing like trying to make either one a little exciting. Aren't you glad you paid NYU tuition to be read to? LOL
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