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11-16-2023, 06:25 AM
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So it's just like brick and mortar colleges.
One problem for me with online colleges is that you just have to read a lot and there's no lecture and you're basically teaching yourself with a textbook, but I was wondering if there are any schools with lectures.
Also it would be nice if the schools like this are not super expensive.
If this isn't an option, can you make it so you finish a degree (like with schools like WGU, UMGC, UMPI, or others) with mostly videos? Bachelor's or master's in majors in computer science, software development or engineering, IT, psychology, or business. Thank you.
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For the most part, no. Not as far as I know.
However, kind of - with TESU.
SDC courses (mostly) have videos.
Arizona State University Universal Learner classes have videos.
Some Sophia courses have accompanying videos.
Combine these and you can get a TESU degree without having to only read textbooks.
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(11-16-2023, 06:42 AM)rachel83az Wrote: For the most part, no. Not as far as I know.
However, kind of - with TESU.
SDC courses (mostly) have videos.
Arizona State University Universal Learner classes have videos.
Some Sophia courses have accompanying videos.
Combine these and you can get a TESU degree without having to only read textbooks.
Do you have to take courses at TESU, or are these alone enough to get a TESU degree? Can you get a degree in the disciplines I mentioned (IT, CS, software development or engineering, psychology, or business)? Thank you for the info.
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It is cheaper if you take 5 classes at TESU. But if you don't care about that, you only need 2 classes from TESU: cornerstone and capstone.
You can get a TESU BSBA entirely with ASU, Sophia and SDC. Computer Science is similar, but you'll need either a Coursera certificate or a Saylor exam for the last 3 UL credits (assuming you don't take them at TESU as part of a 15-credit flat-rate term).
Check out the degree plans on the wiki and see which one appeals to you the most.
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11-16-2023, 07:40 AM
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(11-16-2023, 07:11 AM)rachel83az Wrote: It is cheaper if you take 5 classes at TESU. But if you don't care about that, you only need 2 classes from TESU: cornerstone and capstone.
You can get a TESU BSBA entirely with ASU, Sophia and SDC. Computer Science is similar, but you'll need either a Coursera certificate or a Saylor exam for the last 3 UL credits (assuming you don't take them at TESU as part of a 15-credit flat-rate term).
Check out the degree plans on the wiki and see which one appeals to you the most.
When you say "You can get a TESU BSBA entirely with ASU, Sophia and SDC" do you still have to do 2 courses at TESU, the cornerstone and capstone? Is there any way to really do all courses from outside and get a degree, or do entire degree relying on videos alone or mostly instead of reading a lot?
If you absolutely do have to do cornerstone and capstone at TESU, are these easy to do? Is there a lot of writing involved? And do you have to cite scientific research papers, or are regular articles you might find through Google fine? And how quickly can you get the cornerstone and capstone done?
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11-16-2023, 08:27 AM
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TESU degrees absolutely require a capstone for its Bachelor's degrees. I think the only one that doesn't is the Data Analytics degree. But that's not one of your requested topics and it's a degree that requires a bunch of Statistics.com courses. You probably wouldn't like them.
They also require a cornerstone for all their degrees. Exceptions are for holders of prior Bachelor's degrees. Also, for Computer Science only, you can take the cornerstone on edX for less money. Less writing, too, AFAIK.
The capstone depends on what kind of degree you're getting. The Liberal Arts capstone (for Computer Science and other BA degrees) requires a research paper that cites various academic research papers. You get access to things like EBSCOHost, though, so that should make things easier.
The capstone for the Business degrees involves case studies for a few businesses.
As for whether any of these classes are easy; it depends. Most TESU students seem to have no problems with any of them, as long as they're actually trying their best. A couple of students have failed or gotten bad grades because life got in the way.
But, honestly, if you want a degree - you need to be willing to put in the work. There are simply no shortcuts for some things.
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(11-16-2023, 08:27 AM)rachel83az Wrote: TESU degrees absolutely require a capstone for its Bachelor's degrees. I think the only one that doesn't is the Data Analytics degree. But that's not one of your requested topics and it's a degree that requires a bunch of Statistics.com courses. You probably wouldn't like them.
They also require a cornerstone for all their degrees. Exceptions are for holders of prior Bachelor's degrees. Also, for Computer Science only, you can take the capstone on edX for less money. Less writing, too, AFAIK.
The capstone depends on what kind of degree you're getting. The Liberal Arts capstone (for Computer Science and other BA degrees) requires a research paper that cites various academic research papers. You get access to things like EBSCOHost, though, so that should make things easier.
The capstone for the Business degrees involves case studies for a few businesses.
As for whether any of these classes are easy; it depends. Most TESU students seem to have no problems with any of them, as long as they're actually trying their best. A couple of students have failed or gotten bad grades because life got in the way.
But, honestly, if you want a degree - you need to be willing to put in the work. There are simply no shortcuts for some things.
Do you happen to know if the Statistics.com courses involve just videos or do you have to read a lot, like a textbook? I might not mind doing a Data Analytics degree or degree in just about anything really, especially IT related, as long as I can easily get a degree.
If I can do the capstone elsewhere like you mentioned that would be wonderful. So it sounds like Computer Science with TESU is what I might need to do. If you don't pass the capstone at first with edX can you repeat it unlimited number of times until you pass? I would try to pass and put in complete effort at first attempt of course.
Is there any way you can get the cornerstone done elsewhere too like edX or some other website? If you do have to do it at TESU does it involve writing and citing academic research papers?
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You're going around in circles with your previous threads and this one, we're still stuck at the 'start'. You really can get to 90 credits exactly using the same courses and be at 90 towards each and every one of the institutions that are mentioned in this and your previous threads. The reason is simple, all the general education and electives are practically the same for each institution, by doing those 90, you hit each and every institution just using CLEP/MS and Sophia.org combined. If you're still debating which degree/school, at least you'll be at 90 credits vs where you're at now. So, create a spreadsheet of your favorite institutions and degrees, compare the Sophia.org equivalency list and you're good with 3/4th of the degree...
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There is NO path to a bachelor's that doesn't involve significant writing. At TESU, you have the Capstone, and at UMPI, each course requires papers. Other schools have similar requirements.
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Actually, davewill is correct, most institutions will require much more work than the Excelsior/TESU capstone courses alone. For UMPI and other competency based programs, there are significant writing portions as well for the remaining 30 credits. You really need to decide if you're wanting to transfer the max 113/114 credits with Excelsior/TESU, or transfer a max of 90 credits at PUG, UMPI, WGU, etc.
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