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12-08-2020, 05:46 PM
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Looks like they'll be introducing two new courses early next year: Intro to Microeconomics, and Intro to Philosophy.
I haven't seen too many sources of inexpensive RA credit for intro to philosophy, so this is good to see.
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12-10-2020, 11:43 AM
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Man... I wish these online RA courses were around when I was an undergrad back in 2010. I was charged so much money for general education courses at an expensive private university.
The younger generation born in 2000's are super lucky. They can finish two years of general education courses by taking Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions. And to be honest, the courses on Earned Admissions, Outliers, Tel Learning are superior to some traditional classes. They come with more organized, professional contents than traditional courses I have taken.
Now, I'd like to advise all prospective young students to take maximum number of online RA courses before applying to any private university in US. They will be able to save $100,000 on general education courses.
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(12-10-2020, 11:43 AM)nomaduser Wrote: The younger generation born in 2000's are super lucky. They can bypass two years of general education courses by taking Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions.
Now, I'd like to advise all prospective young students to take maximum number of online RA courses before applying to any private university in US. They will be able to save $100,000 on general education courses.
First - you're not bypassing 2 years of general education courses if you TAKE 2 years worth of general education courses.You may be able to take them faster, or more cheaply, but you're not bypassing anything.
Second - that assumes that every college will take everything you transfer, which isn't generally the case. Also, I have friends whose kids are going to private universities, and with scholarships and discounts, they are paying LESS than their friends at in-state public universities. One friend's kid is at Grand Canyon University, paying $12k a year for tuition, room and board - so $48k for 4 years (in-state CSU-system schools are about $7500/yr plus $12k/yr for dorms - a $30k savings). Another friend's kid is at Point Loma Nazarene University and is paying $22k/yr for tuition, room and board (her other option was a UC-system school for $15k/yr + $12k/yr for dorms - a $20k savings). In both cases, they ended up paying less and graduating on time - something CA state universities are notorious for not being able to do.
Never rule out a private university - they have money to give out that public universities do not (not talking about federal/state money).
Also, many states (probably half) have community colleges that are less expensive than $400/course, so those people are much better off going to a CC for 2 years and transferring to a 4yr school - especially one with an articulation/transfer agreement.
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(12-10-2020, 01:05 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (12-10-2020, 11:43 AM)nomaduser Wrote: The younger generation born in 2000's are super lucky. They can bypass two years of general education courses by taking Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions.
Now, I'd like to advise all prospective young students to take maximum number of online RA courses before applying to any private university in US. They will be able to save $100,000 on general education courses.
First - you're not bypassing 2 years of general education courses if you TAKE 2 years worth of general education courses.You may be able to take them faster, or more cheaply, but you're not bypassing anything.
Second - that assumes that every college will take everything you transfer, which isn't generally the case. Also, I have friends whose kids are going to private universities, and with scholarships and discounts, they are paying LESS than their friends at in-state public universities. One friend's kid is at Grand Canyon University, paying $12k a year for tuition, room and board - so $48k for 4 years (in-state CSU-system schools are about $7500/yr plus $12k/yr for dorms - a $30k savings). Another friend's kid is at Point Loma Nazarene University and is paying $22k/yr for tuition, room and board (her other option was a UC-system school for $15k/yr + $12k/yr for dorms - a $20k savings). In both cases, they ended up paying less and graduating on time - something CA state universities are notorious for not being able to do.
Never rule out a private university - they have money to give out that public universities do not (not talking about federal/state money).
Also, many states (probably half) have community colleges that are less expensive than $400/course, so those people are much better off going to a CC for 2 years and transferring to a 4yr school - especially one with an articulation/transfer agreement.
I'm not interested in CSU system except for San Diego State University which is the most popular among them.
Anyways, I highly encourage every young students to take the maximum number of cheap online RA courses on Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions before applying to any private university.
I'm talking about situation which you apply to top-tier private universities. Many of the online RA gen ed courses will transfer for sure.
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(12-10-2020, 01:05 PM)dfrecore Wrote: you're not bypassing 2 years of general education courses if you TAKE 2 years worth of general education courses.You may be able to take them faster, or more cheaply, but you're not bypassing anything.
Very much this. I think it's important to note that this forum focusses on 'alternative' credit, not 'shortcut' credit. It's a different way of doing things which, for a certain sector of people, makes more sense - but it's definitely not bypassing the actual learning and education itself.
Agreed on maxing out the cheap RA credits as being a great strategy. Given that we've seen ACE is now not a reliable bank for credits, RA credit is a far better investment for your time and money; it's far less likely that an entire college or university will stop offering credits, as we've seen happen with ACE credits.
RA credit also has better transferrability for internationals as well. Trying to get RPL for a study.com course versus an ASU EA course, you'll without question have better luck with the ASU course.
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(12-10-2020, 11:43 AM)nomaduser Wrote: Man... I wish these online RA courses were around when I was an undergrad back in 2010. I was charged so much money for general education courses at an expensive private university.
The younger generation born in 2000's are super lucky. They can bypass two years of general education courses by taking Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions. And to be honest, the courses on Earned Admissions, Outliers, Tel Learning are superior to some traditional classes. They come with more organized, professional contents than traditional courses I have taken.
Now, I'd like to advise all prospective young students to take maximum number of online RA courses before applying to any private university in US. They will be able to save $100,000 on general education courses.
Why would anyone have to take courses at a private university? State schools have been offering online classes for well over a decade. I mean I took online courses from a community college back in 2005.
Who spends $100,000 on gen ed courses? That's just insane.
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12-10-2020, 02:25 PM
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(12-10-2020, 02:20 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Why would anyone have to take courses at a private university? State schools have been offering online classes for well over a decade. I mean I took online courses from a community college back in 2005.
Who spends $100,000 on gen ed courses? That's just insane.
If you attend a top-tier 4-year private university like Northeastern University, your first two years will cost you $100,000 including out-of-state tuition and living expenses in Boston.
No kidding!
Drexel University's out-of-state tuition is $70,000 a year without financial aid.
https://www.google.com/search?client=fir...university
Average annual cost
Before aid:
$71,657
After aid:
$33,631
So if you plan to apply to top-tier schools, it's best to take the maximum number of online RA courses.
Up-to two years of their 4-year Bachelor program is filled with general eds / liberal arts requirements.
You just need to transfer them from Tel Learning or CLEP. Don't pay them any money for those courses.
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(12-10-2020, 01:16 PM)nomaduser Wrote: (12-10-2020, 01:05 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (12-10-2020, 11:43 AM)nomaduser Wrote: The younger generation born in 2000's are super lucky. They can bypass two years of general education courses by taking Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions.
Now, I'd like to advise all prospective young students to take maximum number of online RA courses before applying to any private university in US. They will be able to save $100,000 on general education courses.
First - you're not bypassing 2 years of general education courses if you TAKE 2 years worth of general education courses.You may be able to take them faster, or more cheaply, but you're not bypassing anything.
Second - that assumes that every college will take everything you transfer, which isn't generally the case. Also, I have friends whose kids are going to private universities, and with scholarships and discounts, they are paying LESS than their friends at in-state public universities. One friend's kid is at Grand Canyon University, paying $12k a year for tuition, room and board - so $48k for 4 years (in-state CSU-system schools are about $7500/yr plus $12k/yr for dorms - a $30k savings). Another friend's kid is at Point Loma Nazarene University and is paying $22k/yr for tuition, room and board (her other option was a UC-system school for $15k/yr + $12k/yr for dorms - a $20k savings). In both cases, they ended up paying less and graduating on time - something CA state universities are notorious for not being able to do.
Never rule out a private university - they have money to give out that public universities do not (not talking about federal/state money).
Also, many states (probably half) have community colleges that are less expensive than $400/course, so those people are much better off going to a CC for 2 years and transferring to a 4yr school - especially one with an articulation/transfer agreement.
I'm not interested in CSU system except for San Diego State University which is the most popular among them.
Anyways, I highly encourage every young students to take the maximum number of cheap online RA courses on Tel Learning, Outliers, Earned Admissions before applying to any private university.
I'm talking about situation which you apply to top-tier private universities. Many of the online RA gen ed courses will transfer for sure.
You're assuming those credits will transfer which is definitely not always the case. Just because a course is RA credit does not mean it's going to transfer into a program at a college. I had almost 200 credits ( 170+ were RA credits) before I arrived at UMPI. All of my math did not transfer to UMPI because it wasn't needed. Same with my science, social sciences, arts, and humanities. I also still needed to take an English literacy course with them even though I had take 5 English courses including an honors English course. At CSU Global, my math and English did not transfer because they were too old. They needed to within the last 5 years and there was a specific cut off date. Many people on here take longer than 5 years to complete a degree. Yes, many are faster, but life happens.
If you're applying to a top tier private university, then you're not wasting your time with Tel Learning. Sorry, but if you're going to Cornell, then you're taking your classes at Cornell not Outliers. You want that Cornell credit and prestige that comes with the name. Very few of us on here are going to a top tier university not because we can't get in but because we want to get this over with on our own terms and not pay a small fortune.
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I agree; the kind of people who think that going to a particular school is THE reason for attending university in the first place aren't exactly going to be the kind of people who are looking for alternate credit. Community colleges have been around, and have been cheaper than universities, for a LONG time. Only a small fraction of students bother to complete their general education credits at a community college before moving on to "real" university. This is assuming, of course, that the credits will transfer. Articulation agreements have also been a thing for a long time (so you KNOW credits at X CC will transfer to Y university).
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12-10-2020, 04:05 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/suze-orm...1607620522
Check this stupid article.
The man in the article could take Earned Admissions, Tel Learning, Outliers.org to avoid that $50,000 debt.
He could totally avoid it.
Don't tell me it's right to pay $50k for general ed courses when you can get 60+ general ed online RA credits for under $5k.
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