ENEB Master Thread

[arad]

About the critic to to the price...you know that in some places in the world degree level studies are free, no?
I cannot wait that you discover that in Finland, Sweden or Germany education is for free... and really good!!
So please think that each country has different priorities regarding education. In this case, Spain, is cheaper, way cheaper than US. But think that salaries are lower, cost high and study credits are difficult to get if possible at all. So imagine yourself with 18 years old trying to pay 3k to inscribe yourself in the university for the first year after one or two months of finishing high school with no chances to get a work ( work market right now is not good for young, inexperienced people). In the case of somebody with undergrad studies nearly not arriving to meet month end and wanting to promote in a enterprise to a better position. Even if the study is not official it shows you learned something and this helps for promoting.  Some enterprises don´t care if the title is official or not, they care about if you can do the work or not (specially small enterprises).

Please, critic the content, utility or something different to: "if cheap cannot be good".
Or if you want to critic the price, again, be original about it. Because is like reading the same post again and again.
in short: just saying that many people in the world don´t have (and others don´t want to spend) 50k to 100k to go to university even if it is news for your... is a more common situation that what you think.

I know you're familiar with the EU, but some readers think "Free" means no payments at all. 
You still have to pay student/enrollment fees. In Germany, it's approximately 300-500 Euros per Term. MBA's aren't free either. They usually cost around 8000 Euro and up in Europe. I only know of Finnland offering a free MBA for EU residents. Real B&M, accredited University. 

I agree with bjcheung on ENEB. 
I took free courses on EDX and other free sources, and most interviewers were impressed that I continued to educate myself.  I had certificates and, most importantly, knowledge to succeed in the new job. Whether I gained that knowledge from youtube lectures or books, would have been irrelevant. 
Btw. I have a degree from Germany. B&M University.

[posabsolute]

Maybe it’s not such a great idea to compare public free models from some European countries to this.

ENEB is the McDonald’s of degrees, sell as much as possible with a low cost groupon deal to make a profit.

Nothing to do with the Sweden model......


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[Kab]

Maybe it’s not such a great idea to compare public free models from some European countries to this.

ENEB is the McDonald’s of degrees, sell as much as possible with a low cost groupon deal to make a profit.

Nothing to do with the Sweden model......


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agreed, even more is a private center not even a public one.

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About the critic to to the price...you know that in some places in the world degree level studies are free, no?
I cannot wait that you discover that in Finland, Sweden or Germany education is for free... and really good!!
So please think that each country has different priorities regarding education. In this case, Spain, is cheaper, way cheaper than US. But think that salaries are lower, cost high and study credits are difficult to get if possible at all. So imagine yourself with 18 years old trying to pay 3k to inscribe yourself in the university for the first year after one or two months of finishing high school with no chances to get a work ( work market right now is not good for young, inexperienced people). In the case of somebody with undergrad studies nearly not arriving to meet month end and wanting to promote in a enterprise to a better position. Even if the study is not official it shows you learned something and this helps for promoting.  Some enterprises don´t care if the title is official or not, they care about if you can do the work or not (specially small enterprises).

Please, critic the content, utility or something different to: "if cheap cannot be good".
Or if you want to critic the price, again, be original about it. Because is like reading the same post again and again.
in short: just saying that many people in the world don´t have (and others don´t want to spend) 50k to 100k to go to university even if it is news for your... is a more common situation that what you think.

I know you're familiar with the EU, but some readers think "Free" means no payments at all. 
You still have to pay student/enrollment fees. In Germany, it's approximately 300-500 Euros per Term. MBA's aren't free either. They usually cost around 8000 Euro and up in Europe. I only know of Finnland offering a free MBA for EU residents. Real B&M, accredited University. 

I agree with bjcheung on ENEB. 
I took free courses on EDX and other free sources, and most interviewers were impressed that I continued to educate myself.  I had certificates and, most importantly, knowledge to succeed in the new job. Whether I gained that knowledge from youtube lectures or books, would have been irrelevant. 
Btw. I have a degree from Germany. B&M University.

Yes, you are right.
If you have a degree from a German B&M uni you know that the education itself is free (in my experience), what is not is the student association, some insurance, maybe inscription somewhere etc this include the semester ticket for the public transport which is the one that adds up to this 300-500 euros per semester/term you commented. In my experience if you are broke you can ask the student association for help and waivers etc. This also means that many studies have "numerus clausus" or restricted number of students per year and admission goes after marks. later you have living cost etc. And you need level C1 in German to inscribe yourself in the uni. So you are very correct to point out that are other cost, I just wanted to put emphasis in the education itself which is seen in a non economical based perspective in some countries.

Also, exist a lot of private universities which varies in cost but are really expensive in comparison.

[eLearner]

Maybe it’s not such a great idea to compare public free models from some European countries to this.

ENEB is the McDonald’s of degrees, sell as much as possible with a low cost groupon deal to make a profit.

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They're not even enrolling enough students for that comparison, and the deals aren't even available everywhere, so would they be McDonald's in some places and Spago's in others?

I think if low prices make Americans take these sorts of views, then it should be considered an unfortunate commentary on just how much our tuition prices have gotten out of hand and we've just accepted it. Now, I'm not saying everything should or has to be $299, but the price shouldn't make people draw fast food conclusions, lol.

[posabsolute]

You misunderstood what I meant,

I have nothing against free public university, I’m from Canada and our best universities are actually pretty inexpensive.

this is not the ENEB model, the comparison has been brought before too, for me there is only one thing in common here, inexpensive.


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[eLearner]

You misunderstood what I meant,

I have nothing against free public university, I’m from Canada and our best universities are actually pretty inexpensive.

this is not the ENEB model, the comparison has been brought before too, for me there is only one thing in common here, inexpensive.

I think it was obvious that you were--in part--making a connection to it being inexpensive, but that's still not enough, and there is an inherent negative connotation with saying something is the "McDonald's" of something, even if you didn't intend it to be taken that way. I'm just pointing it out.

[Dee12]

I just received the ECE evaluation of my Master in Project Management from Universidad Isabel I. It was recognized as "Bachelor degree, major area of study: Project Management". I chose the validation for employment service ($85) so I didn't have to send a transcript or any original, ECE used the "Código Seguro de Verificación (CSV)" in my UI1 diploma to validate it.

Now, I was hoping to list this degree as a master in my resume, but it was validated as a bachelor's degree. How would you list it?

[eLearner]

I just received the ECE evaluation of my Master in Project Management from Universidad Isabel I. It was recognized as "Bachelor degree, major area of study: Project Management". I chose the validation for employment service ($85) so I didn't have to send a transcript or any original, ECE used the "Código Seguro de Verificación (CSV)" in my UI1 diploma to validate it.

Well, two positive takeaways and one negative. Negative first, it didn't evaluate as a U.S. Masters degree. The positives are, it DID evaluate as a U.S. equivalent degree, so $249-$299 for that is one helluva bargain. You earned another valid degree, you learned some new things, and you spent pennies to do it.

Hey, I'm curious: how long did ECE take to turn out your evaluation?

[openair]

How could a 60 ECTS program be equated to a three-year Bachelor's degree in the U.S.? 60 ECTS credits is close to 30 U.S. college credits. Did they give you extra college credit for the graduate to undergraduate switch? Also, the full evaluation outcome report doesn't show up in the .png file.

[eLearner]

Did they give you extra college credit for the Master-to-Bachelor switch?

What does that mean? I don't understand.