Premature enrollment...maybe?

[davewill]

... Once you enroll you have to pick your tuition plan and pay. Is that correct? ...

Yes, although if you're using the Per Credit tuition plan the fee for the course or TECEP is all you pay at that point.

...Once you apply you are only locked into a catalog year if you enroll within one year of initial application, Correct? ...

No. I used to think this, but when I looked it up on TESU's website, is seems clear that nothing is locked in until you are enrolled.

[Prloko]

Not sure what you mean by playing Russian roulette. How am I risking anything by signing up now? Wouldn't that actually be a safer bet than waiting? Wouldn't waiting, and hoping that no changes take place be playing Russian roulette?

You misunderstood my comment. What I am saying is to make sure with actual TESU staff that your enrolling in a TECEP automatically enrolls you and locks you in to the catalog. We had a lot of people assume things on here just to be surprised by an unpublished policy or something else. If you don't believe me, search this forum.

So in essence, you ARE playing Russian Roulette by asking us instead of verifying in writing with the registrar.

[dfrecore]

I am really confused by some of these new TESU rules.

Toapply you send $75 and your transcripts. Is that still correct? YES

Once you enroll you have to pick your tuition plan and pay. Is that correct? YES - ALTHOUGH WITH THE PER-CREDIT PLAN, THERE IS NOTHING TO PAY

Once you apply you are only locked into a catalog year if you enroll within one year of initial application, Correct? YES

In the past you could enroll at anytime of year and you were enrolled for a whole 365 days. Has that changed? NO

Once you are enrolled if you enroll again before enrollment runs out you are still under the catalog you started on? YES

Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but I am hoping the OP's question will help myself and any others having trouble with the new rules understand.

I think you understand all of this correctly.

[dfrecore]

Yea, I am terrified that they will drop the Strategic Management TECEP as the Capstone option and force people to pay $1500 like the BA. I wanted to lock in to this catalog and not take any chances with any more changes. I missed finding this forum and avoiding the $2,000 residency waiver by a couple of months so I don't want to have to pay more than what my current plan has.

Locking in the Catalog DOES NOT mean that nothing will change for you! Locking in the catalog just means that your graduation requirements in terms of the courses you need won't change. If they decide to make the Residency Fee $22,000, then that's what it will cost you. If they decide to do away with the Strat Mgmt TECEP, then it goes away. If they decide that you need 160cr to graduate, then THAT is what you will be protected from.

[dfrecore]

Locking in the Catalog DOES NOT mean that nothing will change for you! Locking in the catalog just means that your graduation requirements in terms of the courses you need won't change. If they decide to make the Residency Fee $22,000, then that's what it will cost you. If they decide to do away with the Strat Mgmt TECEP, then it goes away. If they decide that you need 160cr to graduate, then THAT is what you will be protected from.

I think this may be why I recommend that people wait until they have a lot more credits before they apply/enroll at TESU. At least when you have 112cr under your belt and apply at that point, you know exactly where you stand. If you apply when you're at 0 credits, so much can (and will) change before you're done, and people mistakenly believe that this won't apply to them because they're "locked in." This is NOT true at all.

BTW - Not knocking TESU for this - if your local state college that you were enrolled in changed their tuition each year, you would have to pay the increased amount, even if you were still locked into a specific catalog.

As an example, if you were on a previous catalog, but hadn't yet taken any TECEP's when the residency waiver went into effect in May, you would have had to sign up for and pass 6 TECEP's to try to get residency. If you failed any of them, you would be out of luck - no residency for you, and you're now going to have to pay the Waiver or sign up for a $1500 course at TESU to get to that magic 16 number.

[ndelco]

Locking in the Catalog DOES NOT mean that nothing will change for you! Locking in the catalog just means that your graduation requirements in terms of the courses you need won't change. If they decide to make the Residency Fee $22,000, then that's what it will cost you. If they decide to do away with the Strat Mgmt TECEP, then it goes away. If they decide that you need 160cr to graduate, then THAT is what you will be protected from.

I should have worded my comment better. I was more referring to having courses added to the current BSBA plans. I was following a recent thread and I believe it was sanatone who was saying the Oral Com, the Ethics and other classes are newer requirements. I have a plan that I like and that will allow me to utilize Study.com (which I like) for most of it and I won't need to really worry about other companies or credit sources at this point. I have the free and really cheap courses finished that are currently allowed to fulfill certain slots on the BSBA plan and I didn't want to chance having those plans ruined by not locking into this catalog with these specific requirements.

My fear about the TECEP will be there until I take it and it is showing in my Strategic Management slot no matter what happens. I have already started studying people's notes for that test even though I haven't taken any of the business courses yet. If there is an announcement in 2017 that they are stopping that option, I don't want to be completely screwed and have no chance of passing the exam before the deadline hits. I REALLY do not want to have to take a $1500 course on top of the $2000 waiver. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it seems like a certainty that if the Capstones have made TESU money, they will require the same of all of their degrees at some point.

[davewill]

I think this may be why I recommend that people wait ...
As an example, if you were on a previous catalog, but hadn't yet taken any TECEP's when the residency waiver went into effect in May, you would have had to sign up for and pass 6 TECEP's to try to get residency. If you failed any of them, you would be out of luck - no residency for you, and you're now going to have to pay the Waiver or sign up for a $1500 course at TESU to get to that magic 16 number.

And if you weren't enrolled, you wouldn't even have had the option of trying to take them, and would have had to take the Cornerstone to boot. Also being enrolled gets you notified of changes like these instead of having to hear about them on the forum.

[keepsingin]

Does anyone know if you can enroll in the current 2017 catalog up until April-ish 2017? It's not Dec 31 2016, right? I couldn't find the info on TESU's site.

[TrailRunr]

Locking in the Catalog DOES NOT mean that nothing will change for you! Locking in the catalog just means that your graduation requirements in terms of the courses you need won't change. If they decide to make the Residency Fee $22,000, then that's what it will cost you. If they decide to do away with the Strat Mgmt TECEP, then it goes away. If they decide that you need 160cr to graduate, then THAT is what you will be protected from.

The residency fee was avoidable if you were already enrolled at the time the news broke. Following your advice to wait was a $1.1k to $2k mistake.

[mednat]

I'm a big proponent of enrolling earlier. You will need to maintain enrollment by taking a TECEP every now and then, but TESU has been pretty good about honoring the catalog you enroll in. Yes they are entitled to make drastic changes, but they have traditionally allowed students to complete under the catalog in effect when they enroll.

As stated, they can change fees, or equivalencies, but none of these things are really related to your catalog -- these are separate issues. Locking into a catalog ensures you aren't chasing a moving target in regards to required classes. IMHO, it's worth the inconvenience of taking a TECEP every now and then.

Worst case, take an easy TECEP to maintain enrollment. Worst case by not enrolling, they completely change the required classes in your program and you waste alot of time/money. It was an easy decision for me.