nervous, clueless, and less than two weeks time :(

[Ideas]

I didn't see anything else that seemed likely to be super-easy though I could try the other Instant Cert test topics... maybe psych or something, i'm not sure yet.  It just sounded like marketing was a 'for sure' easiest to learn class to begin with though.

So you don't think you're good with reading comprehension or history either? The A&I Lit is kind of like the SAT verbal sections, and English Lit is 60% analysis/comprehension.

Yeah, you request a voucher from Modern States after doing the course, and pay nothing for the exam fee. Then you pay the test center fee yourself, and after you pass, you can request reimbursement from Modern States for that fee. It takes up to 8 weeks to get a check from Modern States.

[blaczkowitz]

So basically it sounds like the Modern States thing is a total win...  no reason not to (makes the CLEP free), you just have to finish the course...  does finish the course mean watch all videos or how does it work?  (does no good to start and not finish in time to get the free CLEP voucher I mean)  I mean how do they track/verify you finished it...


Any suggestions from people who might be familiar with both what is the least time intensive option?

1) Take Modern States course AND get the free clep prep thing to remind right before the course (still curious how long that is, ie their audio mp3)
2) Take JUST Modern States training by itself
3) Take JUST the free clep prep course (which isnt free) by itself if just passing is more important than even getting the course free (if i get squished for time)

Am I likely to need to go thru the Modern States video seminar things more than once or should one go through taking notes be enough?

Is there any way to download the video footage (ie to study offline, ie on my phone during a break at work since i have no wifi or cell service/I work in a concrete basement level with no signal) or is it online only?  Like is it something hosted on youtube I could use a downloader for instance...



To the other questions, i'm not sure, but I guess i'll just try taking some other questions in the InstantCert and see whether I seem like i'm passing or not.  The problem with the english 101 replacement is that I already took it and failed (years prior, due to medical illness, and never was withdrawn properly so it was just an F instead) and so I cant get CLEP credit of a college class I took and failed they say... so that's the only test totally off the option menu.

[clep3705]

The Free Clep Prep marketing mp3 file total about 61 minutes of listening time. I added them up for you.

For management, there are more files. I didn't total them up, but they take up about twice as much disk space, so I'm estimating around 2 hours.

[Ideas]

The problem with the english 101 replacement is that I already took it and failed (years prior, due to medical illness, and never was withdrawn properly so it was just an F instead) and so I cant get CLEP credit of a college class I took and failed they say... so that's the only test totally off the option menu.

English Lit is not an English 101 replacement. College Comp is for the basic English requirement. English Lit gets you two literature courses: LIT-208 English Literature and LIT-209 English Literature II, but A&I Lit has less memorizing. People used to constantly do A&I Lit with zero studying, or maybe 1 hour of looking over terminology. Now apparently it's gotten harder, but I still find it to be similar to the SAT verbal questions. A&I Lit is also not an English 101. A&I Lit is most recommended as you get 6 credits. You also get 6 for English Lit. It's possible English Lit would be easier for someone who is only okay at analysis/comprehension.

I would suggest Modern States and also doing at least one other type of course/book. At Modern States they can see if you did all the "homework" and all the of the sample review questions. Homework is just 1-8 questions.

[ness2991]

Glancing at the modern states thing it said something like 6 weeks to finish...  do i learn 'more than I need to' or does it mostly focus on just what i need to pass the test?  It's not that I have zero interest in the topic, it's just not convenient to learn "all about" "right now" - I just need my credits to get my loan to pay my bills.  >_<
I was considering the free clep prep study guides for marketing and management - how long is the audio version of the guide?  How long does it take to go thru vs the 25-30hrs it sounds like the other thing takes?

I am the kind of learner that needs a bigger picture before I'm able to cram a bunch of dry terms and topics. For me, Modern States made the picture a lot more solid, preparing me to be far better equipped for the test. You probably only need the Quick Prep Study Sheets, and if you spend a good amount of time and know the concepts well you should at least score in the low 50's. However, Modern States makes your tests free and gives you a pretty good understanding of the information you'll need to take. The ROI (return on investment) is high, and I think coupled with 2-3 hours with the quick prep study sheets you'd be pretty set to go. 

If you had to do one or the other, though, I would go the quick prep route. You're losing out on quite a bit, but a time crunch is a time crunch.

Also, overlap is good. If you just do the Quick Prep Sheets, at least Youtube and Google some of the concepts for a broader understanding and an easier time connecting the dots.

[a2jc4life]

You didn't specify what school you go to. Does it HAVE to be CLEP? Does your school take ACE-recommended credit? If so, something like a StraighterLine course would probably be quicker and easier than a CLEP (and not notably more expensive, by the time you consider the CLEP fee and test center fee).

Obviously if they don't take ACE credit that's not a good option. I'd just hate for you to overlook an alternative option in your panic.

[quigongene]

If DSSTs are an option, they're giving a free retake. I took Tech Writing and Astronomy cold and passed them both.
http://getcollegecredit.com/assets/pdf/D...d-shot.pdf

[blaczkowitz]

ARGH....


So on sunday my computer DIES.

I'm just stumbling back online now, while still playing catchup with other work and final projects.  Now i've less than a week basically to study for CLEP.  (didn't even read followups here yet, I just finished a windows install and i'll be catching up on stuff all week)

The college wont tell me if I can still get the CLEP accepted if I take the test any later than the 13th - i'd have to file an appeal, which might be denied.  I will STILL study for CLEP and take the test mind you, even if I can't do it the 13th, it just throws a serious wrench in my plans if appeals aren't accepted and creates ambiguity.


Can someone familiar with the process please inform me whether the following is feasible:

I figured i'd sign up for the Modern States thing - if they make the CLEP test for free it's worth it (and compensates for some lost work by saving money).  However the question is how long does it take to get the voucher, is it something like I watch their 24 hours of material on a subject, take a practice test (so they know they aren't wasting their money), and then I insta-get a voucher, that I can claim and am able to take the CLEP test the next day?  Or is there a delay?

Assuming I pay attention to the training material and take notes, am I likely to need to review things more than once?  Or should I assume that the 24hrs of material, on 1.5x speed (I can try 2.0 but not sure if I can keep up with stuff spoken that fast) I can hopefully get thru in 16hours of real time, should probably help an average student know the subject enough to pass the tests for marketing and management?  Because 8 hours a day of study for the next four days I can do (thurs fri sat sun, take instantcert practice tests sun night, my scheduled CLEP for both was next wedsday but i'd prefer to move it back to tuesday or even monday when i'm off anyway because it makes me miss less work due to schedule issues.) but more turns into a bit of a question mark.

Do people think that I WOULDN'T know the topic well enough, from those studying conditions going thru the Modern States material on each topic just once?


If yes, do they think a few extra hours of the 'free clep prep' mp3 and package they sell would make that big of a difference done right before the test?

[ness2991]

ARGH....


So on sunday my computer DIES.

I'm just stumbling back online now, while still playing catchup with other work and final projects.  Now i've less than a week basically to study for CLEP.  (didn't even read followups here yet, I just finished a windows install and i'll be catching up on stuff all week)

The college wont tell me if I can still get the CLEP accepted if I take the test any later than the 13th - i'd have to file an appeal, which might be denied.  I will STILL study for CLEP and take the test mind you, even if I can't do it the 13th, it just throws a serious wrench in my plans if appeals aren't accepted and creates ambiguity.


Can someone familiar with the process please inform me whether the following is feasible:

I figured i'd sign up for the Modern States thing - if they make the CLEP test for free it's worth it (and compensates for some lost work by saving money).  However the question is how long does it take to get the voucher, is it something like I watch their 24 hours of material on a subject, take a practice test (so they know they aren't wasting their money), and then I insta-get a voucher, that I can claim and am able to take the CLEP test the next day?  Or is there a delay?

Assuming I pay attention to the training material and take notes, am I likely to need to review things more than once?  Or should I assume that the 24hrs of material, on 1.5x speed (I can try 2.0 but not sure if I can keep up with stuff spoken that fast) I can hopefully get thru in 16hours of real time, should probably help an average student know the subject enough to pass the tests for marketing and management?  Because 8 hours a day of study for the next four days I can do (thurs fri sat sun, take instantcert practice tests sun night, my scheduled CLEP for both was next wedsday but i'd prefer to move it back to tuesday or even monday when i'm off anyway because it makes me miss less work due to schedule issues.) but more turns into a bit of a question mark.

Do people think that I WOULDN'T know the topic well enough, from those studying conditions going thru the Modern States material on each topic just once?


If yes, do they think a few extra hours of the 'free clep prep' mp3 and package they sell would make that big of a difference done right before the test?

Sorry for the series of unfortunate events!

As long as you have watched all the videos answer all the questions, they'll give you the voucher. Not sure if they check if you watch each video, but I DO know they track whether or not you've answered the questions. It's a 50% pass rate, and each question gets three tries, so it's not so hard. I only went through each course once, so move on to the next study materials when you've finished.

I would not feel comfortable going the Modern States route alone. Even if you only had 3 or 4 hours of study with the Quick Prep Sheets, I'd say they're worth it. I did that with the Marketing Clep - Took the modern states course in one day (4ish hours?), and studied about 3.5 hours over the night before and day of the test. Made the difference. The Modern States Course is very short and is more conceptual than their other courses, so the Prep Sheet really rounds it out with definitions, terms, etc. It's a great resource.

Last, the turnaround time for the voucher is the next business day, in my experience. This isn't a guarantee, but if you finish the courses two days before the test you should have the voucher code. They're really fast.

[blaczkowitz]

Does it HAVE to be CLEP? Does your school take ACE-recommended credit? If so, something like a StraighterLine course would probably be quicker and easier than a CLEP (and not notably more expensive, by

At the moment my only option is CLEP due to quirks and technicalities.

Okay so to bring people up to speed (FWIW): I obviously missed my guaranteed acceptance of credit deadline. Now I have to file an appeal. I'm hoping yes it will be accepted but it's not at all guaranteed - first I have to get the credit done though before I ask and before spring semester starts Jan 8th, and if that can somehow actually finish the first 6 credits by the end of next week/technically in Dec that may be better because Jan is in the new year if they want to be anal. So i'm going to try and set up a proctoring appointment on Friday the 29th and will cancel and try next week if I don't think I can pass.

The computer I thought was back from the dead returned to the dead on next reboot. But at least I got my last due assignments off there (for a course I was already taking). On the plus side I got double shifts at work covering my cash shortfall so I at least wont be at homeless risk, but money will be STUPID tight (two to three foodshelf only months coming next) and only affordable because I plan to take advantage of that Modern States offer. Also a coworker borrowed me his laptop so I can finally focus on being online here and taking the Modern States stuff online.

SO.... HERE I AM.

My 30 day Instant Cert trial expires in 3 days - will I still have access to this subforum if I don't pay the IC renewal?

How important have people found Instant Cert to be in helping you pass, assuming you already took something like Modern States and free clep prep? Is my $15-20 better spent on free clep prep guide or another month here?

I am okay doing something in addition to Modern States - it's just a question of what. (the free clep prep or IC with a self made quiz with flashcards or whatever) What are the Quick Prep Study Sheets, a part of the free clep prep with their mp3 or something else?


I'm still curious on one big thing - if I get a high percentage on the Instant Cert practice test, is it basically guaranteed that I will pass the real CLEP? Do scores ever diverge much/ie content NOT on the IC test?


My current plan is to INSTANTLY start studying at Modern States in a binge - I could really use the tuition reimbursement and it sounds feasible. Maybe just start with Marketing since not sure what else to start with - but i'm back to being open to feedback if people think another course besides Management will be dramatically easier to learn. I tried starting several tests on Instant Cert and just felt like a doofus - I'm good at understanding concepts, poor at "facts and figures", ie who was the person who did what in what year? That's what I suck at if I don't already know it, and it seems I don't know anything that I thought even in topics i'm familiar with.