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(07-08-2023, 12:43 PM)wow Wrote:
(07-06-2023, 05:15 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: TESU finally took in all 55 credits after much hassle and opening of tickets. At first, they did not want to take the 40 credits that were pass/fail. 
Interesting. I thought all the open learn courses were pass/fail only. At least mine are. How did you convince them to take the credits?
Most of the courses are pass/fail - 6 courses were on the 1-5 scale. Initial reviewers only wanted to accept the courses with a grade of 3 and above, as those appear as C or above on the credit evaluation. 
I opened several tickets for review once the initial academic evaluation was finished. The registrar finally took a look and corrected it.
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Additional update on Registrar review/appeal:

TESU accepted the following courses with an updated equivalency:

Financial Aspects of Leadership- FIN3010 Principles of Finance 2.5 CR (originally LDR-1999) - changed from LL to UL
Customer Oriented Marketing- MKT2010 Introduction to Marketing 2.5 CR (originally MKT-1999)
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(07-06-2023, 09:49 PM)Messdiener Wrote:
(06-16-2023, 12:40 PM)MrPanda Wrote: I have 20 ECTS in XAMK courses, but I also have 22 ECTS from Universidad Nebrija (Spain).

Out of curiosity, which Nebrija courses did you take? And did you take them with outside providers?

I took Curso de Logística Empresarial from EuroInnova (12 ECTS):
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid392337

and Economía Internacional from Escuela de Empresa (8 ECTS).
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(07-06-2023, 05:15 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: TESU finally took in all 55 credits after much hassle and opening of tickets. At first, they did not want to take the 40 credits that were pass/fail. 

Here are the course equivalencies below. The next challenge will be to try to slot them into the degree plans:

Transfer Course/Title Credits Grade Academic Level
EAS1999/Climate Change 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Destination Finland 2.50 CR Undergraduate  
HMM1999/Dig Skills in Hospitality Serv 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Sust Dev in Healthcare 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LAW1999/The Bas of Contrt & Com Law Fi 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LDR1999/Basics of Fin Aspcts of Ldrshp 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Ideation & Value Creat in Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Video Grames Production 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Games Indust & Data Analytic 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/AI for games 1.00 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Innovation in Games 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/History of Games, Parts 1 & 2 0.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Culture Finland 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Empowering Youth 2.50 CR Undergraduate
COM1999/Prof Comm in Tour & Hosp 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Finland-The Hap Count in Th W 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Analysis of the Game I Play No 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Game Exp Analysis, My Favor Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Maternity & Woman's Nursing 1.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Nursing of Childr & Young Pers 1.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP199/Game Concept Design 1.00 CR Undergraduate
MKT1999/Customer Oriented Marketing 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Prep for Studie I Open Univ 1.00 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Cognitive Func in Neuro Diseases 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Hospitality Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL2999/Intercultural Competencies 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA2999/The Chall of Health for Mother 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Tourism Safety Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
NUT1999/Nutritio for Sports and Phys Act 2.50 CR Undergraduate
RET1999/Resp and Cardio Rehab 2.50 CR Undergraduate
BUS1999/Custmer Expe Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate

Transfer Credit Total
55.00

Very annoying those all came in as lower level 100 classes. I think you'd have to challenge it with the evaluator though, not TESU. They are the ones who stated they are all L on the evaluation. I will be challenging it when I submit mine.

Open following link in Edge etc. Degree Programme in Physiotherapy, full-time studies | Study Guide, XAMK)

You can see "deepening respiratory and cardiac physiotherapy", just as an example, is a 3rd year class. These level plans are available for all programs and show a large number of OUAS classes are third year at least. Even a lot of your lower level classes should be 200 level based on the level structures XAMK provides.
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(09-01-2023, 02:39 AM)sarahmac Wrote:
(07-06-2023, 05:15 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: TESU finally took in all 55 credits after much hassle and opening of tickets. At first, they did not want to take the 40 credits that were pass/fail. 

Here are the course equivalencies below. The next challenge will be to try to slot them into the degree plans:

Transfer Course/Title Credits Grade Academic Level
EAS1999/Climate Change 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Destination Finland 2.50 CR Undergraduate  
HMM1999/Dig Skills in Hospitality Serv 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Sust Dev in Healthcare 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LAW1999/The Bas of Contrt & Com Law Fi 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LDR1999/Basics of Fin Aspcts of Ldrshp 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Ideation & Value Creat in Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Video Grames Production 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Games Indust & Data Analytic 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/AI for games 1.00 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Innovation in Games 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/History of Games, Parts 1 & 2 0.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Culture Finland 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Empowering Youth 2.50 CR Undergraduate
COM1999/Prof Comm in Tour & Hosp 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Finland-The Hap Count in Th W 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Analysis of the Game I Play No 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Game Exp Analysis, My Favor Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Maternity & Woman's Nursing 1.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Nursing of Childr & Young Pers 1.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP199/Game Concept Design 1.00 CR Undergraduate
MKT1999/Customer Oriented Marketing 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Prep for Studie I Open Univ 1.00 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Cognitive Func in Neuro Diseases 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Hospitality Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL2999/Intercultural Competencies 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA2999/The Chall of Health for Mother 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Tourism Safety Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
NUT1999/Nutritio for Sports and Phys Act 2.50 CR Undergraduate
RET1999/Resp and Cardio Rehab 2.50 CR Undergraduate
BUS1999/Custmer Expe Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate

Transfer Credit Total
55.00

Very annoying those all came in as lower level 100 classes. I think you'd have to challenge it with the evaluator though, not TESU. They are the ones who stated they are all L on the evaluation. I will be challenging it when I submit mine.

Open following link in Edge etc. Degree Programme in Physiotherapy, full-time studies | Study Guide, XAMK)

You can see "deepening respiratory and cardiac physiotherapy", just as an example, is a 3rd year class. These level plans are available for all programs and show a large number of OUAS classes are third year at least. Even a lot of your lower level classes should be 200 level based on the level structures XAMK provides.
Thanks for the suggestion. It will come in handy for my son’s upcoming evaluation.
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(09-01-2023, 06:25 AM)jg_nuy Wrote:
(09-01-2023, 02:39 AM)sarahmac Wrote:
(07-06-2023, 05:15 PM)jg_nuy Wrote: TESU finally took in all 55 credits after much hassle and opening of tickets. At first, they did not want to take the 40 credits that were pass/fail. 

Here are the course equivalencies below. The next challenge will be to try to slot them into the degree plans:

Transfer Course/Title Credits Grade Academic Level
EAS1999/Climate Change 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Destination Finland 2.50 CR Undergraduate  
HMM1999/Dig Skills in Hospitality Serv 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Sust Dev in Healthcare 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LAW1999/The Bas of Contrt & Com Law Fi 2.50 CR Undergraduate
LDR1999/Basics of Fin Aspcts of Ldrshp 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Ideation & Value Creat in Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Video Grames Production 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Games Indust & Data Analytic 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/AI for games 1.00 CR Undergraduate
CAP1999/Innovation in Games 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/History of Games, Parts 1 & 2 0.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Culture Finland 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Empowering Youth 2.50 CR Undergraduate
COM1999/Prof Comm in Tour & Hosp 1.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Finland-The Hap Count in Th W 2.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Analysis of the Game I Play No 0.50 CR Undergraduate
CIS1999/Game Exp Analysis, My Favor Game 0.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Maternity & Woman's Nursing 1.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Nursing of Childr & Young Pers 1.50 CR Undergraduate
CAP199/Game Concept Design 1.00 CR Undergraduate
MKT1999/Customer Oriented Marketing 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL1999/Prep for Studie I Open Univ 1.00 CR Undergraduate
HEA1999/Cognitive Func in Neuro Diseases 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Hospitality Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
FEL2999/Intercultural Competencies 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HEA2999/The Chall of Health for Mother 2.50 CR Undergraduate
HMM1999/Tourism Safety Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate
NUT1999/Nutritio for Sports and Phys Act 2.50 CR Undergraduate
RET1999/Resp and Cardio Rehab 2.50 CR Undergraduate
BUS1999/Custmer Expe Management 2.50 CR Undergraduate

Transfer Credit Total
55.00

Very annoying those all came in as lower level 100 classes. I think you'd have to challenge it with the evaluator though, not TESU. They are the ones who stated they are all L on the evaluation. I will be challenging it when I submit mine.

Open following link in Edge etc. Degree Programme in Physiotherapy, full-time studies | Study Guide, XAMK)

You can see "deepening respiratory and cardiac physiotherapy", just as an example, is a 3rd year class. These level plans are available for all programs and show a large number of OUAS classes are third year at least. Even a lot of your lower level classes should be 200 level based on the level structures XAMK provides.
Thanks for the suggestion. It will come in handy for my son’s upcoming evaluation.

It's one of those things where normally I wouldn't care about LL, but for some degrees at TESU the classes can be LL but must be at least 200 level to apply to the AOS (off the top of my head, it applies to the BA Math electives but I am sure there are others).

The UL issue is a separate and major one.

One thing these credential evaluators don't seem to know, acknowledge or realise, is that by US standards most EU countries university classes are "UL". It is why we don't distinguish on transcripts, because something is either considered Uni level or it's not.

You have to do two years of 'general education' type "college" to get into university (from 16-18), after finishing the US HS Diploma equivalent at 16. It is not that we do one year less (3 instead of 4), we do one year more since we do 2 + 3. We just start younger. The "college" years are LL (and evaluated as such by most US evaluators).

It's really annoying because they are the credential evaluators. They should know this.
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(09-01-2023, 07:22 AM)sarahmac Wrote: One thing these credential evaluators don't seem to know, acknowledge or realise, is that by US standards most EU countries university classes are "UL". It is why we don't distinguish on transcripts, because something is either considered Uni level or it's not.

You have to do two years of 'general education' type "college" to get into university (from 16-18), after finishing the US HS Diploma equivalent at 16. It is not that we do one year less (3 instead of 4), we do one year more since we do 2 + 3. We just start younger. The "college" years are LL (and evaluated as such by most US evaluators).

It's really annoying because they are the credential evaluators. They should know this.

After seeing one evaluator classifying a Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) class from ENEB as Programming/Computer Science, I don´t have much faith on them doing things right the first time.
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Sharing my son's XAMK evaluation and transfer to TESU

Video Games Intro Credits (free electives, lower level)
HIS1999/History of Games Parts 1 & 2 0.50 CR
CAP1999/Game Experience Analysis My Favorite Games 0.50 CR
CAP1999/Innovation in Games 0.50 CR 
CAP1999/Games Industry and Data Analytics 0.50 CR
CAP2999/Analysis of the Game Play Now 0.50 CR
CAP2999/Ideation and Value Creation in Games 0.50 CR
COS1999/Artificial Intelligence for Games 1.00 CR 
CAP2999/Video Games Production 0.50 CR
CAP2999/Game Concept Design 1.00 CR

XAMK Course Credits
COM-1310/Intercultural Competences 2.50 CR - fulfills Diversity Intercultural Literacy gen-ed with RA credits
ENS1300/Climate Change 2.50 CR - fulfills Scientific Knowledge gen-ed[i] with RA credits[/i]
BIO2999/Cognitive Functions in Neurological Disorders 2.50 CR
MKT2010/Customer Oriented Marketing 2.50 CR - fulfills BSBA requirement[i] with RA credits[/i]
FNN2999/Destination Finland 2.50 CR
HEA2999/Sustainable Development in Healthcare 2.50 CR
FIN-2000/The Basics of Financial Aspects of Leadership 2.50 CR fulfills BSBA Finance requirement[i] with RA credits[/i]
HMM2999/Digital Skills in Hospitality 2.50 CR
FNN2999/Culture Finland 1.50 CR
HMM1300/Hospitality Management 2.50 CR 
NUT2999/Nutrition for Sports and Physical Activity 2.50 CR
MAN2999/Service Design 1 Customer Service 1.50 CR
MAN2999/Service Design 3 Customer Experience Management 2.50 CR
LAW2999/The Basics of Contract and Commercial Law 2.50 CR
BUS2999/Tourism Safety Management 2.50 CR
COM2999/Cross Cultural Professional Communications 1.50 CR 
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That's awesome, so they do mention somewhere these are transferred in as Foreign (RA) equivalent... you just need to decide now on the residency waiver or taking a flat rate term... Good to know what the courses come in as and the credit numbers too... all those 999's, just wow...
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Too bad they're all LL. But that's still a lot of good credits for almost nothing!
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