Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Why do people attend "for profit" universities?
#18
Prloko Wrote:Perhaps also the reason UoP is losing enrollments (besides bad reputation) is the fact that there ARE more options out there. There are great schools who offer Bachelors and Masters completely online now (Boston, Penn State, OSU, Hampton, ASU, GWU, UNC, etc.) mostly in response to the for profits. I haven't checked numbers, but perhaps there is also correlation to this fact also.

Yes, people are discovering better options, but the decrease in enrollments escalated after federal scrutiny and media coverage. A lot of these alternative options have been around for a decade or more. For-profits might have filled a niche, but they aren't the pioneers of distance education as you said. There have been non-profits offering distance education options for decades including the Big 3. The for-profits just had bigger budgets for marketing. That's how they popularized distance education. They also admitted students who would normally be rejected by traditional schools or made to take remedial courses at CCs. My biggest issue with for-profits is that they take advantage of people who can barely read or write and people with learning disabilities.

I have a real life story I heard from one of my students. I teach at a for-profit. We got into a discussion of how to go about getting a peace officer's license if the police department you want to work for doesn't have an in-house academy. I told him about self-sponsoring through AACOG or San Antonio College (a community college) for about $2500. I also told him about the Texas grant that covers half of the tuition at SAC; and that if he had leftover financial aid from attending one of SAC's degree programs, he could use that to cover the rest of his academy tuition.

He gave me that dumbfounded look I'm used to seeing now. He took out $3,000 in loans and his parents took out $16,000 in loans for a certificate in CJ that doesn't directly lead to a job. He told me, "I could have put myself through the police academy for $2500 and be ready to apply for jobs instead of wasting $19,000 on a diploma." Then, we got into a discussion on how much it costs to attend the Alamo Community Colleges. I did explain how the CCs are subsidized by taxes, but he didn't care because I'm sure his parents pay taxes to subsidize these schools. He said, "Wow! $4,000 for an associates degrees which is a higher degree than this $19,000 CJ diploma? I feel duped." He said some other expletives I won't repeat here.

So how did he get into this situation? His mother felt like he needed to do something, so she saw our college on t.v. and made him enroll. No one in his family bothered to check into any of the community colleges, public universities, or even private non-profits in the area. They just thought it was normal to spend $19,000 on a certificate program. This student is also open to attending college online, which he is not doing now. While our college does offer the CJ program online, so do the Alamo Community Colleges.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Why do people attend "for profit" universities? - by sanantone - 02-11-2014, 07:56 AM

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  people who have multiple degrees crowbird 56 5,807 11-04-2024, 08:55 PM
Last Post: Duneranger
  California bans legacy admissions in all colleges, universities LevelUP 0 358 10-07-2024, 10:21 AM
Last Post: LevelUP
  New online degrees from top Indian universities Robson 8 1,096 08-20-2024, 07:36 AM
Last Post: Robson
  Universities with Most Nobel Prizes sanantone 2 550 05-22-2024, 02:02 AM
Last Post: bjcheung77
  What’s Behind the ACT’s For-Profit Pivot? LevelUP 4 642 05-03-2024, 09:06 PM
Last Post: NotJoeBiden
Exclamation How many colleges and universities have closed since 2016? Ares 0 549 03-25-2024, 11:02 PM
Last Post: Ares
  People Who Regret Their College Majors Are Sharing What Their Major Was LevelUP 8 3,996 02-14-2024, 07:57 PM
Last Post: Vle045
  Blacklisted foreign universities in Nigeria Imbanewbie 1 855 01-13-2024, 03:43 AM
Last Post: bjcheung77
  ASU partners with for-profit in El Salvador elcastor21 1 550 08-26-2023, 02:55 PM
Last Post: elcastor21
  Finnish Universities (XAMK etc.) (incl. CS/IT courses!) sarahmac 32 10,329 06-16-2023, 02:38 PM
Last Post: wow

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)