UMPI Psychology

[Dreemichele]

Hi, I need help planning the psychology degree. I haven't started anything yet but if it were you guys how would plan the degree out. I need to consider all variables like time and cost. Please be as detailed as possible.

[origamishuttle]

You'll want to get acquainted with UMPI and the degree by reading these:

https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Un...esque_Isle
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/UM...egree_Plan

Then create a spreadsheet with courses that fill the requirements:

https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/UM...quivalents
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

Generally, you should complete as many requirements on Sophia as possible, followed by Study.com.

Finally, stay tuned to the forum and discord:
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...e-Discords

The first cohort of YourPace Psychology students starts in three weeks, so hopefully there will be feedback as they progress through their courses.

[Duneranger]

Hi, I need help planning the psychology degree. I haven't started anything yet but if it were you guys how would plan the degree out. I need to consider all variables like time and cost. Please be as detailed as possible.

Its a new degree, you probably wont get a ton of info on the classes

[bjcheung77]

@Dreemichele, Welcome to the board. That's a very blunt and short introduction post that doesn't have much details. It's similar to asking for a coffee, but not sure what coffee you want, and asking someone to list everything out for you and the cost to each one. We have a WIKI and the search feature for many reasons... You're correct when you mentioned, "I need to consider all variables like time and cost. Please be as detailed as possible." You need to elaborate on everything...

If you're looking for assistance, you really need to follow through with providing us a bigger overview picture of your situation. You need to fill in the various variables you're looking at, not ask for us to do the calculations for it, we don't know what you have to bring to the table to get that done... Here's the addendum and template, please update your post with all the details if possible: Please be as detailed as possible. https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

[Dreemichele]

I did find a Wiki Detailing a route I could take. My goal is to use this Psychology Degree to enter a nursing school in my town that doesn't use an entrance exam. It took me like 2 hours to figure it out. Only thing is I think I need to take Anatomy & Physiology I&II and Statistics UMPI. They require quite a few other prereqs that will be completed through the psychology degree.

[rachel83az]

If they'll accept ACE sources, you can take Anatomy & Physiology + Lab and Statistics at Sophia, then Anatomy & Physiology + Lab from StraighterLine.

[Duneranger]

I did find a Wiki Detailing a route I could take. My goal is to use this Psychology Degree to enter a nursing school in my town that doesn't use an entrance exam. It took me like 2 hours to figure it out. Only thing is I think I need to take Anatomy & Physiology I&II and Statistics UMPI. They require quite a few other prereqs that will be completed through the psychology degree.

Are you talking about an accelerated BSN? You do not need a psych degree to get into nursing school. Nurses generally only take 2 psych classes (Intro and Developmental) plus STATS , so it doesn't really make sense to pursue a psych degree. It's just a deviation.

UMPI doesn't have anatomy and physiology for yourpace. Also, many nursing schools REQUIRE Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 WITH lab (meaning in person not online unless its a BM school with dissection kits etc). I recommend taking these at a local CC. Sophia will NOT be adequate, I promise you. The majority of nursing programs will not take ACE credits.

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If they'll accept ACE sources, you can take Anatomy & Physiology + Lab and Statistics at Sophia, then Anatomy & Physiology + Lab from StraighterLine.

I highly doubt they will. I have been on nursing school admissions teams before and they are generally picky (given that many A and P classes are highly rigorous.) These are considered the "Cut Courses" and one large factor when gauging admission.

There are no shortcuts here. They know it's not fair when someone can breeze through Sophia AP 1 and 2 in a couple of days versus 2 trad semesters of in-depth AP with intense timed exams and cadaver labs/practicals (and hundreds of hours of studying).

[Shyjbh]

I did find a Wiki Detailing a route I could take. My goal is to use this Psychology Degree to enter a nursing school in my town that doesn't use an entrance exam. It took me like 2 hours to figure it out. Only thing is I think I need to take Anatomy & Physiology I&II and Statistics UMPI. They require quite a few other prereqs that will be completed through the psychology degree.

Are you talking about an accelerated BSN? You do not need a psych degree to get into nursing school. Nurses generally only take 2 psych classes (Intro and Developmental) plus STATS , so it doesn't really make sense to pursue a psych degree. It's just a deviation.

UMPI doesn't have anatomy and physiology for yourpace. Also, many nursing schools REQUIRE Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 WITH lab (meaning in person not online). I recommend taking these at a local CC. Sophia will NOT be adequate, I promise you. The majority of nursing programs will not take ACE credits.

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If they'll accept ACE sources, you can take Anatomy & Physiology + Lab and Statistics at Sophia, then Anatomy & Physiology + Lab from StraighterLine.

I highly doubt they will. I have been on nursing school admissions teams before and they are generally picky (given that many A and P classes are highly rigorous.) These are considered the "Cut Courses" and one large factor when gauging admission.

There are no shortcuts here. They know it's not fair when someone can breeze through Sophia AP 1 and 2 in a couple of days versus 2 trad semesters of in-depth AP with intense timed exams and cadaver labs/practicals (and hundreds of hours of studying).

I transferred my SL sciences into a nursing school. Union County College in NJ takes SL, and so does Ocean County College. Thomas Edison School of Nursing does too. Although, TESU Nursing program preferers SL sciences over Sophia.  
I've taken "butt in seat" sciences and SL sciences; SL courses are BETTER in many ways and most times more rigorous and more thoroughly review the subject matter content. The lab kits are fantastic too. I would say, even if your school does not take SL credits, it would not be a waste of time to take a SL course prior to taking the class your institution wants you to take. You will go into the course 100% prepared. Covid has changed everything, and schools are discovering that just because someone takes a course online doesn't mean they're not capable of academic rigor. It doesn't mean we're cheating; it doesn't mean we "breezed through." All those assumptions are unfair. In fact, my TEAS exam score, which was in the 90s, was significantly higher than the students who took mostly "butt in seat" classes. I think the grade and the effort is about the person; not the school or where they took their classes. I switched to pre-med so I'm no longer perusing nursing at this time, but I would tell OP to be a little bit more thorough and ask your school lots of questions. You may be surprised, and you can also save yourself lots of money.

[Duneranger]

I did find a Wiki Detailing a route I could take. My goal is to use this Psychology Degree to enter a nursing school in my town that doesn't use an entrance exam. It took me like 2 hours to figure it out. Only thing is I think I need to take Anatomy & Physiology I&II and Statistics UMPI. They require quite a few other prereqs that will be completed through the psychology degree.

Are you talking about an accelerated BSN? You do not need a psych degree to get into nursing school. Nurses generally only take 2 psych classes (Intro and Developmental) plus STATS , so it doesn't really make sense to pursue a psych degree. It's just a deviation.

UMPI doesn't have anatomy and physiology for yourpace. Also, many nursing schools REQUIRE Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 WITH lab (meaning in person not online). I recommend taking these at a local CC. Sophia will NOT be adequate, I promise you. The majority of nursing programs will not take ACE credits.

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If they'll accept ACE sources, you can take Anatomy & Physiology + Lab and Statistics at Sophia, then Anatomy & Physiology + Lab from StraighterLine.

I highly doubt they will. I have been on nursing school admissions teams before and they are generally picky (given that many A and P classes are highly rigorous.) These are considered the "Cut Courses" and one large factor when gauging admission.

There are no shortcuts here. They know it's not fair when someone can breeze through Sophia AP 1 and 2 in a couple of days versus 2 trad semesters of in-depth AP with intense timed exams and cadaver labs/practicals (and hundreds of hours of studying).

I transferred my SL sciences into a nursing school. Union County College in NJ takes SL, and so does Ocean County College. Thomas Edison School of Nursing does too. Although, TESU Nursing program preferers SL sciences over Sophia.  
I've taken "butt in seat" sciences and SL sciences; SL courses are BETTER in many ways and most times more rigorous and more thoroughly review the subject matter content. The lab kits are fantastic too. I would say, even if your school does not take SL credits, it would not be a waste of time to take a SL course prior to taking the class your institution wants you to take. You will go into the course 100% prepared. Covid has changed everything, and schools are discovering that just because someone takes a course online doesn't mean they're not capable of academic rigor. It doesn't mean we're cheating; it doesn't mean we "breezed through." All those assumptions are unfair. In fact, my TEAS exam score, which was in the 90s, was significantly higher than the students who took mostly "butt in seat" classes. I think the grade and the effort is about the person; not the school or where they took their classes. I switched to pre-med so I'm no longer perusing nursing at this time, but I would tell OP to be a little bit more thorough and ask your school lots of questions. You may be surprised, and you can also save yourself lots of money.

I said majority, I didn't say all. I don't have a pulse on every ADN program but I can speak for BSN programs in general. My background includes advanced nursing degrees and I have been an instructor on admissions committees. I am not just talking to talk.  You said transferred but not specifically accepted into the school so I am not quite sure what you are meaning here.

We absolutely look at where the classes were taken and the rigor involved with the admissions process. Remember you are competing, not just applying. For reference, I have taken both Sophia and SL AP and the quality/rigor doesn't compare to traditional lab/dissection anatomy. It just doesn't. I don't care about individual TEAS scores. I am just stating from an instructor's and SME's perspective,  that the SL courses are not up to par. There is no harm in taking them for some extra learning experience,  however. Now, there ARE online AP courses through BM schools with dissection kits that are far better and might be something OP has considered.

I am well aware that education has changed and schools have evolved. But evolving doesn't mean that time-intensive and rigorous material suddenly becomes easy or more digestible. Otherwise, why would we still have "butts in seat classes"? Why even have science labs or cadaver dissection? Are the on-campus pre-nursing students just fools? I mean I highly doubt most people want to take in-person multiple 100+ questions tests in front of hundreds of people, spend hours upon hours going over flashcards or experience stressful 30 second station-based lab practicals at 7am, if there is some superior go at your own pace online/low stress/minimally proctored class out there.  I have seen tons of students bust their butt with weeks of studying just to scrap by with a B in AP. At SL you can basically CTRL-F 90% of the assignments and get a 0 on the only proctored test and still pass the course...c'mon.

I am trying to set up OP for success and want them to achieve their goal. They can ask the local school about ACE credits, and critical pre-reqs, but I likely know the answer.

[Dreemichele]

The BSN program with a previous Bachelor's will need to have the 
general classes below. My plan is to take these classes that I can take at Umpi. I know I could get a degree done faster but I want to make sure these classes aren't having to be redone.

Introduction to Biology* 3 Microbiology with Lab* 4 Human Anatomy & Physiology I with Lab* 4 Human Anatomy & Physiology II with Lab* 4 Introduction to Chemistry* 3 Nutrition* 3 Statistics* 3 Developmental Psychology* 3. I am so new to degree planning so, please excuse me.  

Thanks for the warnings. I will look into Human Anatomy & Physiology classes around me just in case.