Texas A&M University-Commerce competency based degree

[dfrecore]

At the risk of reviving a dead thread, I was poking around the TAMU Commerce website and saw their BAAS in Organizational Leadership CBE program is now: "Texas residents pay $750 per term and out-of-state residents pay $1,500 per term."
They also have a competency-based BS in Criminal Justice. It's unknown whether the same flat-rate pricing applies to that program as well. It lists no cost information.

TAMU-Commerce is $750/7-week term for in-state, and $1500/7-week term for out-of-state.  This breaks down to $107/wk (IS) and $214/wk (OOS).

To give you some other prices per week (which is the only way to compare apples-to-apples):
NAU is $115/wk
WGU is $130-$148/wk
UMPI is $175/wk
UofWisc is$188/wk
PUG is $250/wk

So if you're in-state, it's the cheapest option available; if you're out of state, it's on the high side, but not insanely so.
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What's UMass Global's CBE porgrams come out to? $133.33 per week? Is that right?

Yes

[Tedium]

At the risk of reviving a dead thread, I was poking around the TAMU Commerce website and saw their BAAS in Organizational Leadership CBE program is now: "Texas residents pay $750 per term and out-of-state residents pay $1,500 per term."
They also have a competency-based BS in Criminal Justice. It's unknown whether the same flat-rate pricing applies to that program as well. It lists no cost information.

Also, for 2022, their athletics have upgraded to a Division I school.

This program might become competitive with UMPI for some since the pricing is similar. Texas A&M Commerce may be the stronger brand with more potential for regional relevance and connections for those who may live or work in the Mid-South and Southwest regions. (Or those who want to. Lots of space to live in Texas.)

Personally, I'm applying to see what credits will transfer. If the gap to completion seems like a doable/affordable thing, I may pull the trigger. I'm driving distance from campus and could get more involved than I could most other schools frequently discussed on the forum.

I am going to revive an old thread. 

I wanted to add this clause that I found in the catalog, since there was an asterisk on one of the pages describing the BAAS Organizational Leadership tuition: 

"Students living in Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, and Oklahoma counties or parishes that border Texas qualify to pay Texas resident tuition rates.  Oklahoma residents in non-bordering counties pay Texas resident rates plus $30 per semester credit hour."

http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/admin...n_and_fees

@raycathode - I bring that up because I seem to remember you saying you were in Louisiana. If you happen to live in a border parish like me, the tuition just got a helluva lot better. 

Just throwing that out there in case it helps someone and they missed it the first few times looking at the site like I did.

[ReyMysterioso]

I'm not on a border parish. I'm in an internal parish. And apparently, that gets you in-state tuition BUT with a $30-per-credit-hour fee. So $900 plus the tuition for however many semesters it takes you to finish. An advisor told me several students have finished in two semesters, so those fees plus enrollment fee plus graduation fee... a two-semester completion would cost $1960 total.

I'm on the fence and leaning against it as I already have a bachelor's degree and don't really need a second one. But I'm hooked on education/learning and am always interested in trying something new that comes up on the forum and reporting back what it's like. Part of me wants to do it just to see. Part of me says "Don't waste your money and time."

[Vle045]

Well heck, this is interesting…
In some small print at the bottom of the curriculum for the BAAS in Organizational Leadership, it says…

“Second Bachelor's Degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership

For students who have already acquired a Bachelor’s degree and are seeking a 2nd Bachelor’s degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership, the following courses need to be completed: ORGL 3311; ORGL 3321; ORGL 3322; ORGL 3331; ORGL 3332; ORGL 4341; ORGL 4343; ORGL 4342; ORGL 4352; ORGL 4361.”

So, if I understand this correctly, those of us who already have a bachelors in something would just have to take those 10 classes. That is VERY attractive.

Here’s the page where I found that…. http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/colle...1622205425

[ss20ts]

Well heck, this is interesting…
In some small print at the bottom of the curriculum for the BAAS in Organizational Leadership, it says…

“Second Bachelor's Degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership

For students who have already acquired a Bachelor’s degree and are seeking a 2nd Bachelor’s degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership, the following courses need to be completed:  ORGL 3311; ORGL 3321; ORGL 3322; ORGL 3331; ORGL 3332; ORGL 4341; ORGL 4343; ORGL 4342; ORGL 4352; ORGL 4361.”

So, if I understand this correctly, those of us who already have a bachelors in something would just have to take those 10 classes. That is VERY attractive.  

Here’s the page where I found that…. http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/colle...1622205425

So 30 credits. Just like UMPI and Excelsior. UMPI requires you to complete 30 credits at UMPI for a second bachelor's degree. Excelsior requires an additional 30 UL credits after your first bachelor's degree is completed. Seems like many schools are very similar when it comes to a second bachelor's degree.

[Vle045]

Well heck, this is interesting…
In some small print at the bottom of the curriculum for the BAAS in Organizational Leadership, it says…

“Second Bachelor's Degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership

For students who have already acquired a Bachelor’s degree and are seeking a 2nd Bachelor’s degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership, the following courses need to be completed:  ORGL 3311; ORGL 3321; ORGL 3322; ORGL 3331; ORGL 3332; ORGL 4341; ORGL 4343; ORGL 4342; ORGL 4352; ORGL 4361.”

So, if I understand this correctly, those of us who already have a bachelors in something would just have to take those 10 classes. That is VERY attractive.  

Here’s the page where I found that…. http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/colle...1622205425

So 30 credits. Just like UMPI and Excelsior. UMPI requires you to complete 30 credits at UMPI for a second bachelor's degree. Excelsior requires an additional 30 UL credits after your first bachelor's degree is completed. Seems like many schools are very similar when it comes to a second bachelor's degree.

Yes, 30 credits. Except, with UMPI, I’d still have to grab a few alternate credits to fill in some blanks before I get down to the 30 credits.

When I looked in to Excelsior, they wouldn’t even talk to me about a second bachelors.  They kept trying to sell me on the MBA even though I told them I’m not at all ready for that.

[dfrecore]

Well heck, this is interesting…
In some small print at the bottom of the curriculum for the BAAS in Organizational Leadership, it says…

“Second Bachelor's Degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership

For students who have already acquired a Bachelor’s degree and are seeking a 2nd Bachelor’s degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership, the following courses need to be completed:  ORGL 3311; ORGL 3321; ORGL 3322; ORGL 3331; ORGL 3332; ORGL 4341; ORGL 4343; ORGL 4342; ORGL 4352; ORGL 4361.”

So, if I understand this correctly, those of us who already have a bachelors in something would just have to take those 10 classes. That is VERY attractive.  

Here’s the page where I found that…. http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/colle...1622205425

So 30 credits. Just like UMPI and Excelsior. UMPI requires you to complete 30 credits at UMPI for a second bachelor's degree. Excelsior requires an additional 30 UL credits after your first bachelor's degree is completed. Seems like many schools are very similar when it comes to a second bachelor's degree.

Yes, 30 credits. Except, with UMPI, I’d still have to grab a few alternate credits to fill in some blanks before I get down to the 30 credits.

When I looked in to Excelsior, they wouldn’t even talk to me about a second bachelors.  They kept trying to sell me on the MBA even though I told them I’m not at all ready for that.

For UMPI's 2nd bachelor's, you do not need to fill in any blanks, assuming you mean GEC courses? Because those are waived, as are the Free Electives.  You just need 30cr, in your major/minor/concentration.  Obviously if you just do an 18cr minor or something, the remaining 12cr can be in whatever, as long as you meet the UL requirements (so those extras might include a few UL courses).


EC does not like 2nd bachelor's degrees at all, so I wouldn't even bother.

[Vle045]

Well heck, this is interesting…
In some small print at the bottom of the curriculum for the BAAS in Organizational Leadership, it says…

“Second Bachelor's Degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership

For students who have already acquired a Bachelor’s degree and are seeking a 2nd Bachelor’s degree in BAAS-Organizational Leadership, the following courses need to be completed:  ORGL 3311; ORGL 3321; ORGL 3322; ORGL 3331; ORGL 3332; ORGL 4341; ORGL 4343; ORGL 4342; ORGL 4352; ORGL 4361.”

So, if I understand this correctly, those of us who already have a bachelors in something would just have to take those 10 classes. That is VERY attractive.  

Here’s the page where I found that…. http://catalog.tamuc.edu/undergrad/colle...1622205425

So 30 credits. Just like UMPI and Excelsior. UMPI requires you to complete 30 credits at UMPI for a second bachelor's degree. Excelsior requires an additional 30 UL credits after your first bachelor's degree is completed. Seems like many schools are very similar when it comes to a second bachelor's degree.

Yes, 30 credits. Except, with UMPI, I’d still have to grab a few alternate credits to fill in some blanks before I get down to the 30 credits.

When I looked in to Excelsior, they wouldn’t even talk to me about a second bachelors.  They kept trying to sell me on the MBA even though I told them I’m not at all ready for that.

For UMPI's 2nd bachelor's, you do not need to fill in any blanks, assuming you mean GEC courses? Because those are waived, as are the Free Electives.  You just need 30cr, in your major/minor/concentration.  Obviously if you just do an 18cr minor or something, the remaining 12cr can be in whatever, as long as you meet the UL requirements (so those extras might include a few UL courses).


EC does not like 2nd bachelor's degrees at all, so I wouldn't even bother.

Unless I am missing something… for the Management & Leadership… there are about 12 courses in the business major, then another, I think, 8 courses, for the concentration.  So when I looked at that, my degree covered the gen ed and electives, but I’d still have to take outside courses to fill in some of those other courses until I got it down to 10 courses.

[dfrecore]

Yes, 30 credits. Except, with UMPI, I’d still have to grab a few alternate credits to fill in some blanks before I get down to the 30 credits.

For UMPI's 2nd bachelor's, you do not need to fill in any blanks, assuming you mean GEC courses? Because those are waived, as are the Free Electives.  You just need 30cr, in your major/minor/concentration.  Obviously if you just do an 18cr minor or something, the remaining 12cr can be in whatever, as long as you meet the UL requirements (so those extras might include a few UL courses).

Unless I am missing something… for the Management & Leadership… there are about 12 courses in the business major, then another, I think, 8 courses, for the concentration.  So when I looked at that, my degree covered the gen ed and electives, but I’d still have to take outside courses to fill in some of those other courses until I got it down to 10 courses.

So you're comparing apples to oranges here.  When you want an actual business degree (like the BABA from UMPI), there will always be more courses to complete, because business degrees just have a lot of requirements.

When you're looking at a BSOL or BPS or something like that, you generally just have a lot fewer set requirements.

If you compared the TAMU-Commerce BSOL to UMPI's BLS with concentration in Management, for instance, that only has 6 courses required.  So you'd take the 30cr, but you'd have a lot more flexibility.

Not saying there's anything wrong with the BSOL, just trying to give you an idea of what you're comparing.

[Vle045]

Thank you for that. My understanding was that a BLS can not be taken as a second degree, only as a first degree. That’s why I wasn’t really looking at that. I was only looking at it from the perspective of a second degree. In particular as someone who got their first degree a LONG time ago and wants to get a second degree to possibly prepare for a Masters. As it stands now, I am not ready for a Masters in anything. With some more recent classes, maybe I can get ready… or realize I am not going to be cut out for it.