09-04-2020, 01:41 PM
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Shmoop ACE Plan Changes?
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09-04-2020, 01:49 PM
The 87 plan is still here (for now at least): https://use.shmoop.com/subscriptions/plans.html
And I just transferred 8 shmoop course in, 4 got equivalent, 4 pending under-review but all guaranteed to be at least free elective. https://sites.rowan.edu/registrar/transf...abase.html All SHMO course under ACE Credit
09-05-2020, 09:17 AM
When this thread popped up, I re-subscribed at the $14 level and took Math I, African-American Literature, Personal Finance and Geometry. All four classes posted on the ACE transcript, although I had to send emails with PDF's of the course certificates and screen captures of my percent level to Shmoop because they seemed unable to view my results within their own computer system. They even approved one class past the Aug. 31 "deadline." I asked if this was the end and they said that it was over. Maybe I will try another class to see if they will approve more credit.
BTW, one interesting aspect of the Geometry class is that it used to be upper level and now is lower level. I already had an ACE recommendation for the upper level class, but I looked at the class and saw that the only thing that had changed was the final exam. So, I took it and now I have ACE recommendations for both the upper and lower level classes. I'm not sure that this is anything of value, but it was about 40 minutes of work, so what the hey.
09-05-2020, 10:52 AM
I'll go ahead and tell you guys for free to enjoy that Sophia yearly subscription while it lasts because Sophia is about to go just like Shmoop did. All you guys bragging about getting 2 classes of credit in 40 min ruined Shmoop and all you same jokers bragging about how for $80 you got 20 courses of credit in 3 weeks with no proctoring at Sophia are going to ruin that too.
So everyone with sense better hurry up and transfer those Sophia credits before it's too late
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09-05-2020, 12:04 PM
(09-05-2020, 10:52 AM)jsh1138 Wrote: I'll go ahead and tell you guys for free to enjoy that Sophia yearly subscription while it lasts because Sophia is about to go just like Shmoop did. All you guys bragging about getting 2 classes of credit in 40 min ruined Shmoop and all you same jokers bragging about how for $80 you got 20 courses of credit in 3 weeks with no proctoring at Sophia are going to ruin that too. I'm enrolled a competency based bachelor's degree program. There are many of them out there nowadays. I finished my first class in 2 days. How? I have previous experience and it was all a review for me. That doesn't mean you could take the class and finish it in 2 days. Your experience and mine are 2 different things. All programs don't have proctors either. No proctors at the program I'm in. Sophia is owned by the parent company of Capella and Strayer. I don't see Sophia going anywhere. I see them making changes as necessary o satisfy ACE. (09-05-2020, 10:52 AM)jsh1138 Wrote: I'll go ahead and tell you guys for free to enjoy that Sophia yearly subscription while it lasts because Sophia is about to go just like Shmoop did. All you guys bragging about getting 2 classes of credit in 40 min ruined Shmoop and all you same jokers bragging about how for $80 you got 20 courses of credit in 3 weeks with no proctoring at Sophia are going to ruin that too.Eriehiker literally said they'd already taken that exact same class before and that only one test changed, so all he had to do was take a few tests on material he was already familiar with. If I take a CLEP for a subject I already know, it'll take less than 1 hour most likely, does that make it less legitimate?
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09-05-2020, 01:26 PM
(09-05-2020, 10:52 AM)jsh1138 Wrote: I'll go ahead and tell you guys for free to enjoy that Sophia yearly subscription while it lasts because Sophia is about to go just like Shmoop did. All you guys bragging about getting 2 classes of credit in 40 min ruined Shmoop and all you same jokers bragging about how for $80 you got 20 courses of credit in 3 weeks with no proctoring at Sophia are going to ruin that too. Shmoop didn't have any sort of proctoring in place. That's what ruined it. There was no way to tell/prove who took the exams.
09-05-2020, 09:56 PM
Sophia doesn't have proctoring either.
Study.com - 177 CR. TESU - 39 CR. Middle Georgia State University - 15 CR. Sonoran Desert Institute - 42 CR. COSC - 6 CR. Excelsior - 6 CR. CLEP - 6 CR. Sophia - 14 CR. TEEX - 2 CR. Shmoop - 18 CR. NFA - 4 CR. The Institutes - 2 CR. FEMA - 20ish
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09-05-2020, 10:45 PM
The main difference between Shmoop and Sophia is the corporate backing of a couple of universities. Sophia won't go down that quickly especially when Strategic Education is their backer or parent company. The Sophia courses are made much much better than the Shmoop courses, I've taken a few from both and it's that they're in a different league. Even with ACE recommendation and the option to have proctoring, Shmoop was removed from COSC/TESU approved list and maybe a few more colleges we're not aware of, I don't recall anything happening with Sophia's system.
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09-06-2020, 09:38 AM
I finished a lot of Shmoop courses in a single day by not reading the material and running though all the exams, then reading the sections I did poorest on and redoing exams until I hit 70%. The courses I was familiar with I passed first time and some I totally bombed. Just like every other school, Shmoop courses were variable in difficulty with some having a 10 - 15 book required reading list. Any reasonably intelligent person could complete a degree from a state school in an 8 month academic year. I took 4 years to get a degree the first time, a lifetime ago, missing most of my classes and doing pretty much nothing else but drinking and fornicating. Schools tend to slow people down by filling their courses with thoroughly ridiculous busy work. A lot of people used Shmoop courses as akin to CLEP exams. They weren't there to learn. They were there to document their knowledge - for 5 bucks a course.
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