Second bachelors for my sister?

[IceSparkle]

Why go for a second bachelor's and not an MBA?

She doesn’t have much work experience outside retail/food service. She doesn’t want to get an MBA without some relevant work experience first. Feels like the masters could work against her

Maybe this is a case for a non-MBA master's in management, like UMPI's MAOM, WGU's MSML, or Illinois' MSM (and the latter two can be laddered to that school's MBA).

Professionally do you think getting an MSM or MSML would be viewed differently by employers than an MBA?

[Jonathan Whatley]

Why go for a second bachelor's and not an MBA?

She doesn’t have much work experience outside retail/food service. She doesn’t want to get an MBA without some relevant work experience first. Feels like the masters could work against her

Maybe this is a case for a non-MBA master's in management, like UMPI's MAOM, WGU's MSML, or Illinois' MSM (and the latter two can be laddered to that school's MBA).

Professionally do you think getting an MSM or MSML would be viewed differently by employers than an MBA?

So far as you or she are concerned that an MBA at this stage in her career might be a bit 'much,' I think an MSM, etc. would come across as more modest, more commensurate with someone in the process of moving up from operations to management.

[IceSparkle]

Why go for a second bachelor's and not an MBA?

She doesn’t have much work experience outside retail/food service. She doesn’t want to get an MBA without some relevant work experience first. Feels like the masters could work against her

Maybe this is a case for a non-MBA master's in management, like UMPI's MAOM, WGU's MSML, or Illinois' MSM (and the latter two can be laddered to that school's MBA).

Professionally do you think getting an MSM or MSML would be viewed differently by employers than an MBA?

So far as you or she are concerned that an MBA at this stage in her career might be a bit 'much,' I think an MSM, etc. would come across as more modest, more commensurate with someone in the process of moving up from operations to management.

Makes sense. We've both come across posts on reddit and other forums confirming as much, an MBA without work experience just seems like a bad career move. Not only are you void of important work experience and practical skills but employers view you as a higher cost hire because you have a "professional" degree. Obviously this isn't across the board, there are exceptions. Just a general observation.

[Vle045]

Or…. Instead of getting stuck in a low end job, she can get management jobs off the bat. Tons of people go right from undergrad to graduate school.

[allvia]

If she already has a bachelor degree (in anything) she really should be able to get an entry level traditional 'business' position. What exactly is it that she is looking to do? She likely needs to update her resume to focus on the business skills side of the industries she has been working in. Retail customer service/sales/money handling often transitions well into the something like a bank teller (for example, everyone has to start somewhere). I'm not convinced that a new bachelor in business will give the ROI that a revised resume/CV couldn't already provide - especially in the current job market.

[IceSparkle]

If she already has a bachelor degree (in anything) she really should be able to get an entry level traditional 'business' position. What exactly is it that she is looking to do? She likely needs to update her resume to focus on the business skills side of the industries she has been working in. Retail customer service/sales/money handling often transitions well into the something like a bank teller (for example, everyone has to start somewhere). I'm not convinced that a new bachelor in business will give the ROI that a revised resume/CV couldn't already provide - especially in the current job market.

Yeah maybe I’ll help her fix up her resume, focusing less on education and more on experience/skills. I appreciate the advice! If she’s still having trouble maybe suggest the masters route.

[Vle045]

If she already has a bachelor degree (in anything) she really should be able to get an entry level traditional 'business' position. What exactly is it that she is looking to do? She likely needs to update her resume to focus on the business skills side of the industries she has been working in. Retail customer service/sales/money handling often transitions well into the something like a bank teller (for example, everyone has to start somewhere). I'm not convinced that a new bachelor in business will give the ROI that a revised resume/CV couldn't already provide - especially in the current job market.

Yeah maybe I’ll help her fix up her resume, focusing less on education and more on experience/skills. I appreciate the advice! If she’s still having trouble maybe suggest the masters route.

Good plan. If she already has a Bachelors, there’s not much to be gained with a second. And I say this as someone who planned to get a second bachelors. Instead, I did some free and cheap business courses on Sophia, Saylor, And 100 Million Learners, to name just a few. That helped me to feel more prepared to work slowly towards my MBA. 

https://learn.saylor.org/?utm_source=nb&...redirect=0


https://thunderbird.asu.edu/lifelong-lea...n-learners

https://www.sophia.org/

[dfrecore]

Here's a question: why did she major in Psych? Does she have an interest in working in the field of Psychology? Maybe counseling or social work or something like that? Because if so, she's much better off heading in that direction now, while she's still basically a broke college student than later when she's married with 2 kids.

If she got it because she thought she wanted to work in Psych, then decided she did not, I don't think getting a 2nd bachelor's will help as much as getting a better job. Work experience will be much more valuable than another degree. So I agree that working on her resume and then going out job hunting will get her more bang for her buck.

[IceSparkle]

Here's a question: why did she major in Psych? Does she have an interest in working in the field of Psychology?  Maybe counseling or social work or something like that?  Because if so, she's much better off heading in that direction now, while she's still basically a broke college student than later when she's married with 2 kids.

If she got it because she thought she wanted to work in Psych, then decided she did not, I don't think getting a 2nd bachelor's will help as much as getting a better job.  Work experience will be much more valuable than another degree.  So I agree that working on her resume and then going out job hunting will get her more bang for her buck.

She originally got it thinking she'd become a therapist, changed her mind after the fact. She's going to work toward getting some experience and then pursue a masters down the road.

[Mint Berry Crunch]

Why go for a second bachelor's and not an MBA?

I'll be honest, I'm just a sucker as well for more degrees. I just do it for the fun of it. I would do the MBA though. Afterwards, I'd come back and keep doing more.