Help with arguments to use with EC

[Mateo1]

Here's my question: Did anybody argue successfully with EC about getting upper level credit for a course that according to EC is lower level?

Let me clarify: I took a class at a Community College in Ohio which several reknowned universities like Case Western and Ohio State would grant ULs. These universities consider it a 300 level course. When I asked Excelsior, I was told that they never grant UL to courses taken at the community college level.

So, I wonder if any of you had this issue before and, if so, where you able to get the ULs?

I didn't want to raise this issue before due to a lack of time. I was focusing on the next test instead of arguing with them. However, now that I have to slow down for the holidays, I wonder if there's anything that I can do.

Thank you in advance for any advise.

Mateo

[snazzlefrag]

Here's my question: Did anybody argue successfully with EC about getting upper level credit for a course that according to EC is lower level?

Let me clarify: I took a class at a Community College in Ohio which several reknowned universities like Case Western and Ohio State would grant ULs. These universities consider it a 300 level course. When I asked Excelsior, I was told that they never grant UL to courses taken at the community college level.

So, I wonder if any of you had this issue before and, if so, where you able to get the ULs?

I didn't want to raise this issue before due to a lack of time. I was focusing on the next test instead of arguing with them. However, now that I have to slow down for the holidays, I wonder if there's anything that I can do.

Thank you in advance for any advise.

Mateo

Hi Mateo,

I can't imagine that you would be successful with your challenge to this particular Excelsior policy. They have a blanket rule that no UL credits can be granted for ANY course taken at a two year college. It makes sense too. Two-year colleges are only able to grant Associate's degrees, and so they do not, by their very nature, teach UL courses. Even though some colleges may have designated it as a 300-level course, I'd bet money that the Community Colllege itself only considers it 100 or 200 level. Am I right?

Each school can choose to accept or deny whichever credits they like, but Excelsior has a firm policy in this regard. I would be extremely surprised if you managed to move them on this. It would open up Pandora's Box in terms of EVERY student who ever took a course at a Community College suddenly having precedent to challenge Excelsior about it's LL or UL status.

I don't see any harm in trying though!

Please let us know how you go on,
Snazzlefrag

[Mateo1]

I figured something like that, but maybe someone had fought that battle before and could get me some clues.

I will probably use my time to get ready for the Fall and Raise of the USSR instead of trying to get that going.

Thanks for your response.

[cannoda]

Here's my question: Did anybody argue successfully with EC about getting upper level credit for a course that according to EC is lower level?

Let me clarify: I took a class at a Community College in Ohio which several reknowned universities like Case Western and Ohio State would grant ULs. These universities consider it a 300 level course. When I asked Excelsior, I was told that they never grant UL to courses taken at the community college level.

So, I wonder if any of you had this issue before and, if so, where you able to get the ULs?

I didn't want to raise this issue before due to a lack of time. I was focusing on the next test instead of arguing with them. However, now that I have to slow down for the holidays, I wonder if there's anything that I can do.

Thank you in advance for any advise.
Mateo

You're approaching this from the right direction. I would go to this website Tag Courses - Ohio Board of Regents and find as many schools as possible that transfer your course in as an upper level course.

Any documentation you can find that the faculty at a particular school reviewed the specific course syllabus and found it equivalent will likely be helpful.

What is the course? You might be able to make a case based on the course content.

[Icanstudy]

’m trying to get them to accept UL aviation courses listed on my TESC transcript, but they only refer to the ACE recommendation which is LL. Even Embry Riddle, probably the largest and most reputable aviation school in the world, lists the courses as UL, but Excelsior doesn’t care. Of course I am only an Excelsior applicant versus enrolled and must deal with the admissions office, so maybe an enrolled student could get a different response from academic advisors. Hope someone can help.

[Mateo1]

Thanks for all the good info and encouragement. I did a little research and I already found 3 universities that would grant ULs for my course. By the way, the course title is Culture, Civilization and Literature of Latin America. It's is thaught in Spanish and when I started, I thought it would meet one of the requirements for the Modern Languages & Literature major at EC. Of course, I was not enrolled then and didn't inquire further from EC [totally my fault]. Anyhow, I may ask for an evaluation of the course. I ran into a site that may be already public knowledge in this great forum, but I didn't know it existed. It is the Course Applicability System, and it helps find equivalent courses at different institutions. The website is: Welcome to CAS!. Not all states are available, but it may help someone else.
Thanks for your input.
Mateo

[Mateo1]

Just a follow-up. Following some of your advise, I did request an eval of the course and I submitted supporting evidence [showing how 4 accredited universities granted UL for this course]. After about 20 days, I was notified that they usually don't grant upper level and that I could try presenting further supporting evidence: "the rationale for those 4 universities to grant UL to that particular course." Basically, I would have to contact each school and get caught up in a really involved process. I don't really have the time to do this, since I'm just 1 exam away from the end, and I already paid for the exam. However, I think this presents some good news for those who really have a case and have the time to pursue an argument like this. I'm sure that the rationale for granting UL at a regionally accredited university would be plenty for EC to accept it.
In short, if you have an issue like this and have supporting evidence for your case, you could argue it successfully with EC. The downside is the time you need to invest on this. In my case, I rather put the time studying for another exam.
Thanks to all of you for your support.
Mateo.