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Need Help!!!!! Please read!!!
#1
Folks,

I've been talking to my community college about accepting ACE reviewed courses and also starting a test center for CLEP/DSST. The school has requested a meeting with me this Thursday, June 21. I have accumulated a lot of information but would like to hear from you. Any advice, documents, web links or anything else that you think might help me in presenting ACE, CLEP and DSST to the administrators, counselors and dean, would truly help.

Wish me luck, this can be a game changer at my local CC. All I want to do is help others.

-bldclot2
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#2
I am assuming that you have already thoroughly checked out CLEP's website. If not, check out this URL (Developing a CLEP Test Center | CLEP) to pass along some info or just to provide to the folks you will be meeting with if they truly are interested in becoming a test center. Here is the similar page for DSST (Test Centers | DSST | Get College Credit).
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#3
College Board has some studies on their website: CLEPÂ
I would cite those for determining the validity of CLEP, or whether or not they will give the same level of education as a traditional class.

There is a lot of good info in this thread:
http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...ating.html
But most of it is personal experiences of test takers. Although, several of the posters have graduate degrees and/or are educators, like cookderosa who teaches at a CC. At one point she mapped out the time it took to study for a CLEP/DSST and the actual time of study you got out of a traditional course structure. That was really helpful to me when I was writing out a plan for my former university's change in CBE policy. Kind of puts things in perspective, but I don't have the link at the moment.

I would also bring up the rise in homeschooled kids applying for college. Their studies are very similar to the self-study required for CBE, though it is different in that they have a parent or tutor to walk them through the process. If they will accept those children, a case can be made for CLEP/DSST.

One major thing that I would also recommend would be to find out what other CCs or 4-year schools in your state or area accept, as far as CBE goes. Then you can make the case that they should allow it to stay competitive. I would look at it this way as a potential student: if I can test out of some core classes that I already have a base of knowledge in, finding a school that allows me to do that, rather than sitting through a class that may lose my interest, is going to be a huge factor when I am looking for a school. There are probably some pretty good arguments you can make based on other school's policies. They may lose a little money initially, but they will probably keep me as a student for the long-haul. And like my boss always says, it's better to get some money off of a sale than none at all.

I had a lot of trouble finding good, scholarly resources for my essay/letter, so a lot of mine was based on the good it would do to the students (lower cost of attendance, a "mini" scholarship, etc.), and how it would improve the school's bottom line by drawing in more students and raising their revenue a bit.

I left my jump drive that had my essay on it at a friend's house, but I will be back that way tomorrow or the next day and can post it then. I also had some more links from this forum saved on it, and that may help as well. I sort of gave up on it after SNHU started stonewalling me, but if it helps you out then at least it all that writing would not have been for nothing. Just let me know if you would like me to post it. I'm sure there are others who can benefit from it as well.

Hope that was somewhat helpful and good luck!
IN-PROGRESS:
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MAYBE:
Newlane University- BA In Liberal Arts

COMPLETED:
Southeast Tourism Society - TMP (02/2020)
Pierpont Community and Technical College - AAS BOG, AOE: English (12/2018)
FEMA - PDS Certificate (04/30/2014)
GED (11/16/2004)
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#4
BGSU_Alum_86 Wrote:I am assuming that you have already thoroughly checked out CLEP's website. If not, check out this URL (Developing a CLEP Test Center | CLEP) to pass along some info or just to provide to the folks you will be meeting with if they truly are interested in becoming a test center. Here is the similar page for DSST (Test Centers |*DSST | Get College Credit).

Ha, I totally skipped out on the testing center bit. Yeah, I would definitely direct them to those sites and maybe e-mail College Board and Prometric beforehand to see if they can give you some extra tidbits before your meeting.
IN-PROGRESS:
???

MAYBE:
Newlane University- BA In Liberal Arts

COMPLETED:
Southeast Tourism Society - TMP (02/2020)
Pierpont Community and Technical College - AAS BOG, AOE: English (12/2018)
FEMA - PDS Certificate (04/30/2014)
GED (11/16/2004)
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#5
Great advice! Thank you. Keep them coming.
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#6
What an awesome opportunity!
Make sure that they understand that there are benefits for both the students and the college - everyone wins! A decent portion of the CollegeBoard's and Prometric's websites are devoted to universities etc. and I believe that the above posters have already listed some of these links.

If they seem very hard and it doesn't seem that they are willing to change... You could try a different approach. Where "No one passes them," or "Only the smart people pass CLEPs/DSSTs, so if you accepted these, you'd be drawing a lot of smart students to your school"... I'm not really sure about this approach, it would be interesting to hear what others have to say/add about it. Though I know I wouldn't recommend this as a first, or even second approach... last resort, maybe.

Definitely make sure that they get that both parties benefit, and that they would not be alone, 2900+ other institutions accept these exams. You may also want to include that it's not just anyone making these tests, but are by the same creators of the AP and SAT, and that CLEPs aren't that much different.
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#7
UPDATE:

The meeting was great! Soon the Los Angeles Area will have a new CLEP/DSST test center. Also, they plan on working with Cal State LA, Cal State Domiguez Hills, CSU Long Beach, CSU Northridge to try and streamline the transfer of CLEP/DSST credits.
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#8
That is really fantastic. I'm happy things worked out so well. Was it a very hard sell, or were they pretty open to it?
IN-PROGRESS:
???

MAYBE:
Newlane University- BA In Liberal Arts

COMPLETED:
Southeast Tourism Society - TMP (02/2020)
Pierpont Community and Technical College - AAS BOG, AOE: English (12/2018)
FEMA - PDS Certificate (04/30/2014)
GED (11/16/2004)
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