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To be honest, national accreditation has tougher standards than ACE and NCCRS, but TESU and COSC won't recognize it, and Excelsior requires additional consideration.
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(10-04-2019, 12:09 AM)dfrecore Wrote: (10-03-2019, 01:55 PM)jsh1138 Wrote: Not sure why people keep saying that ACE approval negates TESU's need to accept the provider. Shmoop has ACE approval and TESU won't accept them either, so obviously it's a little more complicated than that.
Hopefully InstantCert can get it worked out soon.
This is ONE provider, and red flags were raised on it. We have not heard of a single other provider that TESU won't take (or at least, didn't take previous to this new policy).
ACE approval DOES negate TESU's need to VET a provider, it does not mean that they must accept it. But why do extra work when ACE already does a LOT of work on these courses before they get their stamp of approval? It's just a silly new policy they put in place, and I'm willing to bet they don't do nearly the amount of vetting that ACE does.
This is exactly right. When a college acts with consistency, people who pay attention immediately notice an inconsistency. That's what's happening here. TESU's implementation of an additional step for ACE credit is inconsistent with their prior practice. When it happened with Shmoop, that was a fluke. But this is the second time, which is not a fluke, it's a change and it's important to pay attention because it means that the way they apply their transfer acceptance policy has changed.
The reason DIY degree planning works is because you can use history and consistency to plan your credits. This throws in an element of uncertainty that makes degree planning at TESU less predictable.
RE: jsh1138 "Not sure why people keep saying that ACE approval negates TESU's need to accept the provider."
You're misunderstanding. No one thinks TESU has to comply with ACE, rather pointing out that the purpose of a company seeking ACE credit is to land in a pool of credits that can be used at certain schools. Since TESU has always accepted everything, this being their SECOND exception, this is very noteworthy.
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(10-05-2019, 10:58 AM)cookderosa Wrote: The reason DIY degree planning works is because you can use history and consistency to plan your credits. This throws in an element of uncertainty that makes degree planning at TESU less predictable.
This is exactly what worries me the most. In my most recent experience, a couple of months back an inquiry to Academic Advising assured some ACE/NCCRS evaluated courses would be accepted and transferable. In an attempt to have those courses preplanned (as had been done with other courses previously) academic advising refused, stating they would no longer preplan any ACE/NCCRS courses. But given that the courses in question were ACE and NCCRS evaluated, at least two courses were from an "approved provider" and there was assurance from academic advising that these courses would be equivalent to courses needed to complete the degree plan, I did not anticipate any issue.
Unfortunately in the time that transpired between the initial inquiry and now, many including two courses from an approved provider apparently are no longer accepted by TESU. And some of the courses academic advising is now informing are eligible for credit courses (supposedly) are not from approved providers. As a result there appears to no longer be any clear cut way to discern which courses may or may not be received for credit by TESU going forward.
I think the new (hopefully temporary) lack of obvious transparency in which alternative ACE/NCCRS provider courses are eligible for transfer to TESU is the most concerning to me. This new lack of predictability certainly has me considering whether completing a degree plan at TESU will continue to be possible, without the risk of potentially wasting time and money while whatever new policy they seem to be implementing gets sorted out. The idea of blindly taking courses that may or may not be acceptable by the time you complete and transfer them over is nerve wrecking to say the least. It is definitely a major and potentially unfortunate change to their historic policies imo.
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What are the odds that TESU drops Straighterline or other institutions down the road? They won’t drop SDC for a long time, but I’m concerned they may start phasing out other institutions to push people spending money at their college instead.
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(10-06-2019, 09:00 AM)BrighterFuture88 Wrote: What are the odds that TESU drops Straighterline or other institutions down the road? They won’t drop SDC for a long time, but I’m concerned they may start phasing out other institutions to push people spending money at their college instead.
Seems highly unlikely to me that the main providers like SL and SDC will be too much affected. After all, the new policy seems to formalize things further for them and even make thiings more predictable. The problem I see in the future are the "provisional" providers no longer being grandfathered in, and some/all of them not being willing to jump through this extra hoop, and of course, new providers not being interested in jumping through this extra hoop. Looked at from the alt credit provider's POV, they went to a lot of effort to get ACE/NCCRS, and if every school were to do what TESU is doing, it could quickly become unworkable for them.
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Any update on COSC accepting instantcert.com courses? I really wanted my daughter to take some, but paying for them needs to make sense.
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(10-21-2019, 04:56 AM)bethanyneedsajob Wrote: Any update on COSC accepting instantcert.com courses? I really wanted my daughter to take some, but paying for them needs to make sense.
I just followed up with user "hamkicker" (he posted a review of ICC on here a couple of months ago) and what he told me was that he did successfully transfer in his two InstantCert Credit courses to COSC (American Govt and Env Sci) but the registrar asked him to hold off on taking any more of our courses as we are "under review."
I am not sure how we are under review if they have never contacted us to provide any documentation. I just sent the registrar at COSC an email to see how we can get our courses on the approved list.
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(10-21-2019, 09:04 AM)sgloer Wrote: (10-21-2019, 04:56 AM)bethanyneedsajob Wrote: Any update on COSC accepting instantcert.com courses? I really wanted my daughter to take some, but paying for them needs to make sense.
I just followed up with user "hamkicker" (he posted a review of ICC on here a couple of months ago) and what he told me was that he did successfully transfer in his two InstantCert Credit courses to COSC (American Govt and Env Sci) but the registrar asked him to hold off on taking any more of our courses as we are "under review."
I am not sure how we are under review if they have never contacted us to provide any documentation. I just sent the registrar at COSC an email to see how we can get our courses on the approved list.
Thanks. I really like your classes. Hopefully they get them all set soon.
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Has anyone taken these yet?
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Does anybody know if EC accepts Instantcert courses?
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