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Help me graduate so I can get divorced!
#1
It's been a long week, folks.  Here's what I have: 

Each class is worth 3 credits unless otherwise noted in parenthesis.  All A's and B's unless otherwise noted in parenthesis.  
Course names added by suggestion.

Community college: 
COM101 public speaking
HCR 140 non clinical pharmacology
MATH220 probability and statistics (got a C)
BIO100 biology with lab (4)  (Got a D+)
BUS115 small business management
HRY102 american history (1)

Cleps: 
CS04A american literature a
CS04B american literature b
CS0 analyz/interp literature  (6)

Southern Illinois University: 
HCM364 healthcare supervision
HCM365 data applications for health professions
HCM384 health care management
HCM384 equipment/materials management
HCM385 fiscal aspects of healthcare facilities

University of Phoenix (I have an associate's from them): 
COM120 Effective persuasive writing
COM125 utilizing information in writing
CRT205 critical thinking
ETH125 cultural diversity
HHS 205 the human service administrator
HHS225 health and human services in the united states
HHS235 legal and ethical issues in health and human services
HHS265 financing healthcare and human services
MAT116 algebra 1A
MAT117 algebra 1B
HCS310 healthcare delivery in the united states
PHL323 ethics in management

COSC: 
ENG302 world literature for children
MGT450 leadership practices  (got a C)
HCA201 healthcare quality concepts and principles
MGT461 human resource management
PSY101 psychology 
SOC101 sociology  (got a D-)
IDS101 cornerstone seminar
PSY321 social psychology 


While I'd love to best utilize my healthcare credits, it's most important to me that I don't LOSE credits.  I don't have time or money for a lot of retread.  I also can't do well in math, I've peter principled myself in that area. 

If anyone could help lead a clear path between me and completion I would be very grateful.
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#2
You're going to need to include course numbers for each school - like HUM101 or MAT2001 or whatever the school does.  It's almost impossible to tell you anything without that info.

Also, any ideas on a degree?

What does "did poorly" mean?  Grades are more helpful than that tidbit.  Different schools will take different grades, so it behooves you to include a grade for every course that's lower than a C (it will make a difference).

What was your major at COSC? And how did they bring in your credits? Do you have a transcript or evaluation of your previous credits? (make sure to erase personal info)

Finally - not losing credits is actually not the best way to look at things.  How many credits it will take and what the cost will be to finish a degree is a much better bet.  That being said, I'm guessing a BSLS from COSC will be your best bet, since you already took courses there, including the cornerstone; and you will probably be able to just finish up there pretty easily.
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#3
I'll confess that I'm just a bit interested in how degree = divorce.  Typically I don't ask personal questions but , after all, you brought it up.
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(06-13-2021, 06:58 PM)dfrecore Wrote: You're going to need to include course numbers for each school - like HUM101 or MAT2001 or whatever the school does.  It's almost impossible to tell you anything without that info.

Also, any ideas on a degree?

What does "did poorly" mean?  Grades are more helpful than that tidbit.  Different schools will take different grades, so it behooves you to include a grade for every course that's lower than a C (it will make a difference).

What was your major at COSC? And how did they bring in your credits? Do you have a transcript or evaluation of your previous credits? (make sure to erase personal info)

Finally - not losing credits is actually not the best way to look at things.  How many credits it will take and what the cost will be to finish a degree is a much better bet.  That being said, I'm guessing a BSLS from COSC will be your best bet, since you already took courses there, including the cornerstone; and you will probably be able to just finish up there pretty easily.

Thank you, I appreciate your feedback.  I added in the course numbers to the first post.  I also added notations of any grade below the A/B range. 

These courses are off my COSC unofficial transcript.  So while they accepted my D in bio transferred in from community college, I know some other schools would not.  It shows me as having 102 credits accumulated.  

I initially had a healthcare management major, but somewhere along the line I switched to psychology.  LOL should have stuck with HCM, my grades are much better in those areas.

I will take a look at the BSLS, thank you!  Any additional ideas spurred by the new content are also appreciated.    

I agree that the distance/cost to graduation should be my priority.  In the past it has been disheartening to think I'm "X credits away" to be told that no, I actually have triple that to go because of program requirements not meshing with the classes I have completed.

(06-13-2021, 07:50 PM)Alpha Wrote: I'll confess that I'm just a bit interested in how degree = divorce.  Typically I don't ask personal questions but , after all, you brought it up.

If I leave him, I lose my very good health insurance.  In my mind, diploma -> good job with good health insurance -> financial independence without eating cat food.  (I have several chronic illnesses that require a high level of management.)

Maybe it will all be fine, but if it puts a fire under my ass to complete school, then that's a win as well.

I checked the student portal at COSC.  Per my last advising worksheet this is where I stand on general requirements for graduation

Cornerstone - done
Oral Comm - done
Written Comm - done
Ethics - done
Global Understanding - done
Lit/Fine Arts - done
Natural Science - need one more course, no lab required
Non U.S. History/Culture - done
Social/Behavioral Science - done
US Govt/History - done
Liberal Arts 62/60
Upper Division Credits 30/30
Free Electives 20/24
Math - done

Psych major: 6/39.  I really don't want to stay in psych, because I don't want to have to get a master's to get a job.
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#5
Not always having degree= good job
Many people have good paying jobs without degrees ( take IT industry) . If u have right skills it can easily open doors to good jobs. So its not always true
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#6
While I agree that a degree doesn't automatically equate to getting a good job, I do think that it increases the chances greatly. These days, employers are prone to reject people who don't have any degree because their application software allows them to reject "uneducated" people automatically. A University of Phoenix Associate degree would be better than no degree at all for this purpose. But then you could get rejected by a person who sees the University of Phoenix name. Better to get a degree in something from somewhere else if at all possible.

A Bachelor's in psych doesn't mean that you'd have to get a degree in psych. So I wouldn't necessarily dismiss that completely? But what about a BSBA with a concentration in Human Resources from COSC? If you've only got 6 credits completed out of 39 for psych at COSC, I think you'd need about the same amount of credits to get a psych degree as to get a BSBA.

But the easiest degree of all would be to get a General Studies degree. You've got most of the requirements met. I'm not sure what concentration(s) you could get with your current UL credits but, if my understanding is right, you'd maybe only need a month or two of Sophia to fill the science requirement and bring your credit count up to 120.

For more resume fodder, you could also do the ENEB MBA + Master's combo for $300. They've got a Master in Human Resources Management, Project Management, and more. For ENEB, it wouldn't matter what undergraduate degree you have.
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ASU: Human Origins, Astronomy, Intro Health & Wellness, Western Civilization, Computer Appls & Info Technology, Intro Programming
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#7
Most women enter the middle class by earning a degree. Good-paying jobs that don't require a degree are often not woman-friendly. Since you have health issues, many of those jobs wouldn't be suitable for you anyway.

If you want to be marketable, I'd avoid the liberal studies and general studies degrees unless you choose a lucrative concentration. Why not go back to the healthcare program at COSC? They have CAHIIM accreditation, so you'll be qualified to apply for certification.
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Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
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Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
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#8
So, new question for the OP: what did COSC show as completed for the Health Care Administration degree? It looks like you're a decent way through the degree, if what you have will work as I think it might. But it really depends on what COSC showed. Can you see what they gave for course equivalencies for all of the HCM courses you brought in from SIU and UoPx?

You can get Financial Accounting and Medical Terminology from Study.com, leaving you with maybe 2 courses plus the capstone. I think that would cap off that degree.
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EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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#9
If that's what's needed for Health Care Administration, I have a different suggestion:

Financial Accounting CLEP (free through ModernStates)
Medical Terminology TECEP ($50)
Human Biology and/or Environmental Science ($79 for one month of Sophia)

If any further credits are needed to round out the credit requirement, more Sophia: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List
In progress:
TESU - BA Computer Science; BSBA CIS; ASNSM Math & CS; ASBA

Completed:
Pierpont - AAS BOG
Sophia (so many), The Institutes (old), Study.com (5 courses)
ASU: Human Origins, Astronomy, Intro Health & Wellness, Western Civilization, Computer Appls & Info Technology, Intro Programming
Strayer: CIS175, CIS111, WRK100, MAT210
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(06-14-2021, 12:29 AM)rachel83az Wrote: While I agree that a degree doesn't automatically equate to getting a good job, I do think that it increases the chances greatly. These days, employers are prone to reject people who don't have any degree because their application software allows them to reject "uneducated" people automatically. A University of Phoenix Associate degree would be better than no degree at all for this purpose. But then you could get rejected by a person who sees the University of Phoenix name. Better to get a degree in something from somewhere else if at all possible.

A Bachelor's in psych doesn't mean that you'd have to get a degree in psych. So I wouldn't necessarily dismiss that completely? But what about a BSBA with a concentration in Human Resources from COSC? If you've only got 6 credits completed out of 39 for psych at COSC, I think you'd need about the same amount of credits to get a psych degree as to get a BSBA.

But the easiest degree of all would be to get a General Studies degree. You've got most of the requirements met.  I'm not sure what concentration(s) you could get with your current UL credits but, if my understanding is right, you'd maybe only need a month or two of Sophia to fill the science requirement and bring your credit count up to 120.

For more resume fodder, you could also do the ENEB MBA + Master's combo for $300. They've got a Master in Human Resources Management, Project Management, and more.  For ENEB, it wouldn't matter what undergraduate degree you have.

Agreed on the U of P rep.  It doesn't help my cause much.

I like the idea of Human Resources.  I wasn't sure if that was an option at COSC since it isn't on the major list, but I'll look deeper at the concentration vs. major.  

I'm not familiar with ENEB, have to do some looking.  Thank you!!!

(06-14-2021, 01:14 AM)sanantone Wrote: Most women enter the middle class by earning a degree. Good-paying jobs that don't require a degree are often not woman-friendly. Since you have health issues, many of those jobs wouldn't be suitable for you anyway.

If you want to be marketable, I'd avoid the liberal studies and general studies degrees unless you choose a lucrative concentration. Why not go back to the healthcare program at COSC? They have CAHIIM accreditation, so you'll be qualified to apply for certification.

That's near the top of the heap in my consideration.  Probably my biggest hurdle will be more statistics/math.
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