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Not to mention the "unwashed masses'" attitude towards LE nowadays. It's sad.
We are all on the same side here, trying to better our lives....so let's get along and help each other out.
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Besides local LE, there's also Federal - like the Marshals, Border Enforcement, FBI, etc. There's more than one way into law enforcement...
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dfrecore Wrote:Besides local LE, there's also Federal - like the Marshals, Border Enforcement, FBI, etc. There's more than one way into law enforcement...
I typically don't recommend going Federal directly. They love them some degrees, but some time at the state or local level helps make a more rounded Federal agent. Plus, those hiring pipelines can be multiyear events, so it's good to get some ground experience while you're waiting to wend your way through the system.
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Got word today that my certificate has been issued and mailed. Dr. Crouch was very efficient and easy to work with.
My total investment was the $ 20.00 application fee to TRCC and a stamp to send my transcripts to Dr. Crouch. One would be hard pressed to find a more cost-effective and hassle free route to a legitimate credential from a RA school.
Thanks to Life Long Learning for bringing this opportunity to our attention!
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Glad you are also are receiving one!cheersmate
It's REAL and near FREE. It's an excellent one liner on a resume. It's not degree fancy (I would not put on wall), but it's such a "unique" legitimate credential from a RA school that I am proud to have it. BTY, I scanned the two page description showing the 9 needed courses for this "certificate" just in case anyone ever asked. You know one day he will stop. I also scanned a copy of his few emails to me in my TRCC file. I think very highly of Dr. Crouch.:iagree:
boalex207 Wrote:Got word today that my certificate has been issued and mailed. Dr. Crouch was very efficient and easy to work with.
My total investment was the $ 20.00 application fee to TRCC and a stamp to send my transcripts to Dr. Crouch. One would be hard pressed to find a more cost-effective and hassle free route to a legitimate credential from a RA school.
Thanks to Life Long Learning for bringing this opportunity to our attention!
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High_Order1 Wrote:It has never been easier to get a job in law enforcement as it is right now. Having said that, going through the front door is the least successful. The best, fastest and most sure way to a job in law enforcement is to go get on their Reserves. This lets you know if it really is for you, without a multi-year investment. It lets them know who you are, and almost every hiring authority at the local level is going to hire a known quantity over some shmoe coming in the door.
Depending on what part of the country you're in, there are other things that can help or hurt you. For instance, sponsoring yourself through the police academy. Still, the most sure route lies in the reserves.
If you never listen to anything else I say on here, know this: I know how to get hired at police departments.
Having said all that, and telling you I bleed blue, for real, my helpful suggestion here is either really soul search your decision, or look into the fire service. They are a much, much better place to be as a career. Firefighters really have their shit together when it comes to scheduling, promotions, assignments. Police work - many places still wear the exact same cut of uniform shirt and pants you'll see on the Andy Griffith show from the 1960's. Maybe a high tech new fabric, but...
Not in the Tri-State Law Enforcement Jobs are limited and very competitive. I know a lot of people who try for years before becoming an LEO and that's with Vet. Status, Education, and volunteer for (reserves, fire fighter, and / or EMT). Best bet is to be a Vet. and second is to obtain at least 60 College Credits, so you can sponsor yourself into a police academy. They call it the "Alternate Route". Even then there's certified candidates who still have a hard time getting hired.
I don't believe this certificate will give you a leg up on getting an LEO position, but it's better than nothing especially if your only spending $20.00 for some.
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jawbreakingrr Wrote:Not in the Tri-State Law Enforcement Jobs are limited and very competitive.
Doesn't the tri-state area include new york? NYPD is always hurting, right?
Clearly, there will always be pockets of places that don't need fresh blood, but overall, recruiting is down.
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Do the two free NFA courses fit into this in anyway? I have the eng/speech/hist courses, as well as an intro to criminal justice course.
I could definitely do the FEMA IS courses.
Just wondering how to get the additional course (fire or cj) easily/cheaply online.
It's not something that I need or would particularly help me, but a $20 certificate is pretty nice! Sending in transcripts would be the expensive part!
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I highly recommend working for a law enforcement agency that is civil service. With civil service, the only way to get in is through the front door because the agency is required to follow hiring guidelines. Boosting your chances of getting in depends on the written test score and interview score. You might get some bonus points on your test for being in the military or having a bachelor's degree. But, in all honesty, most people with bachelor's degrees won't need the one or two extra points on their test score because those without a degree will mostly score in the 70s and 80s. The biggest hurdle is getting over the military people who are getting five bonus points.
Of course, this all varies by region. In San Antonio, the people who couldn't get into SAPD (sometimes it's because of credit, but it also has a lot to do with being out of shape) would self-sponsor at San Antonio College because they had virtually no physical requirements. Once these people graduated (over 200 every year), they would apply for the small number of openings at police departments that didn't require a physical agility test. A lot of them ended up working as reserve deputies for the Sheriff's office for years. Some them were jailers who were stuck working as detention officers.
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High_Order1 Wrote:Doesn't the tri-state area include new york? NYPD is always hurting, right?
Clearly, there will always be pockets of places that don't need fresh blood, but overall, recruiting is down.
Yeah NYPD is part of the tri-state and they hurting for more officers. They offer tests all the time, but they also have a waiting list. Years ago they were graduating over 1,200 recruits every six months. Now the classes are a lot smaller. I heard the recent MTA police test had over 15,000 applicants. Port Authority as well and they're still hiring off the early 2013 test. All three of these agencies you need at least 60 credits from an accredited college or university or military with honorable discharge and NYPD is civil service.
NJ you only need a high school diploma or GED to apply for the state wide law enforcement civil service exam and your score is going to be the major determining factor to get hired. So if your a horrible test taker and live in a town that doesn't hire often your SOL unless you have Vet. status. Not all agencies are civil service so the process can be more strenuous. Test scores, physical agility score, interview(s) and education, training NJ police certification and volunteer service are weighed. 100 plus candidates apply for 1-5 positions and let's not forget the $50-$100 exam fee. Ouch!!!
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