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(07-03-2021, 07:30 PM)AwardTour Wrote:
(07-02-2021, 10:24 PM)mcjon77 Wrote:
(07-02-2021, 09:14 PM)nnahh Wrote: I’ll wait until finished with the SQL class to give a review. My first impressions aren’t good, but we will see….

Anyone have any tips for the SQL class/ projects ?

I just finished the SQL class last weekend (Summer 1).  I have been working as a data analyst for a while now and had pretty solid SQL.  I also took two previous graduate level courses in Databases/SQL.

The module 2 (database design) is SUPER DRY and theoretical (lot of talk about relations and sets, with less real world talk), more so than necessary.  However he gives the notes that he reads from.  Honestly, I stopped listening to the lectures and just focused on the key points in the notes (it was nothing I hadn't seen before).  I wound up with a 93% on the module 2 exam and a 100% on the module 2 assignment (ER diagram and Schema Diagram).  Also, when completing your diagrams, the ER diagrams are best done in Lucidcharts.  However, I found that the schema diagram was much easier to build using a website called drawsql.com . As long as your schema is 15 tables or less, it is free.

I took the SQL class at the same time that I took his Fundamentals of Machine Learning class.  The machine learning class was much much better.  He did an excellent job presenting that information.  My biggest fear was that it was going to be a survey course, and while we would learn ABOUT machine learning models, we wouldn't learn how to DO a machine learning project.  Thankfully, that was not the case.  

We started off learning how to clean data and dig more into pandas (his coverage of pandas, using real data sets, was much better than the coverage in the first course).  Then we actually start applying models to data sets.  In fact, I am using the format I learned from the class to build a multiple linear regression model for work.  This was easily my favorite class of the program.  I am actually going through the second half of it again, because I kind of rushed through it, and I want to get everything nailed down for future data scientist interviews that I might have in a few months. 

So, if you find the lectures boring in the SQL class, focus on the notes, and walking through the code.  Also, don't be like me and get too cocky about knowing SQL and databases in general.  I wound up getting a B+ instead of an A because I procrastinated on the final project.  The A was completely doable.  I just screwed up.

Great insights, thanks for sharing mcjon77. I'm actually reviewing SQL and Python before I enroll at Eastern University. I'm reviewing a one or two books in a series of books called "Beginning SQL: Joes 2 Pros". This is just a personal favorite and not a recommendation to anyone. I actually took a 300 level Database course with Study.com, but I forgot almost everything.

(07-02-2021, 10:42 PM)nnahh Wrote:
(07-02-2021, 10:24 PM)mcjon77 Wrote:
(07-02-2021, 09:14 PM)nnahh Wrote: I’ll wait until finished with the SQL class to give a review. My first impressions aren’t good, but we will see….

Anyone have any tips for the SQL class/ projects ?

I just finished the SQL class last weekend (Summer 1).  I have been working as a data analyst for a while now and had pretty solid SQL.  I also took two previous graduate level courses in Databases/SQL.

The module 2 (database design) is SUPER DRY and theoretical (lot of talk about relations and sets, with less real world talk), more so than necessary.  However he gives the notes that he reads from.  Honestly, I stopped listening to the lectures and just focused on the key points in the notes (it was nothing I hadn't seen before).  I wound up with a 93% on the module 2 exam and a 100% on the module 2 assignment (ER diagram and Schema Diagram).  Also, when completing your diagrams, the ER diagrams are best done in Lucidcharts.  However, I found that the schema diagram was much easier to build using a website called drawsql.com . As long as your schema is 15 tables or less, it is free.

I took the SQL class at the same time that I took his Fundamentals of Machine Learning class.  The machine learning class was much much better.  He did an excellent job presenting that information.  My biggest fear was that it was going to be a survey course, and while we would learn ABOUT machine learning models, we wouldn't learn how to DO a machine learning project.  Thankfully, that was not the case.  

We started off learning how to clean data and dig more into pandas (his coverage of pandas, using real data sets, was much better than the coverage in the first course).  Then we actually start applying models to data sets.  In fact, I am using the format I learned from the class to build a multiple linear regression model for work.  This was easily my favorite class of the program.  I am actually going through the second half of it again, because I kind of rushed through it, and I want to get everything nailed down for future data scientist interviews that I might have in a few months. 

So, if you find the lectures boring in the SQL class, focus on the notes, and walking through the code.  Also, don't be like me and get too cocky about knowing SQL and databases in general.  I wound up getting a B+ instead of an A because I procrastinated on the final project.  The A was completely doable.  I just screwed up.
Thank you!!!!!  I had originally wrote a post about how horrible the class was, but deleted because it felt mean afterwards. I have no SQL experience so I’m definitely gonna have to try getting a better understanding elsewhere. I soooo appreciate all of the help with the project resources. I’m not looking forward to any of this lol. 


I’m happy to know the next course is better.

nnahh, feel free to share your opinions as you go along. It does sound like the presentation in their SQL course is lacking. If you use outside resources, as others have suggested, then it might be possible to close the gap in your knowledge. This is through no fault of your own. If they assume no prior SQL knowledge then their material should assume you are starting from zero as well. That is a strike against them. Hopefully,  aside from this, things have been going well. 

I'm not enrolled yet. I will give my own feedback here once I begin. So far, their admissions and financial aid department have impressed me both in-terms of customer service attitude and response times. It's a good first impression for me personally. I know that is not always an indicator of things to come. But, it's a good way to start!

I barely got through this course with the minimum score needed. I did not learn a single thing either. 

This course was presented so poorly with so many detailed exams to get through. I did not have the time to learn SQL on my own and complete the course, so I’m just happy it’s over. I saw this professor teaches another course. I wish we had more options. I’m not looking forward to it. 

For now, I’m just happy to have Professor Longo again. He actually takes the time to talk and lecture in his video, not just read from a dry script.
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Has this program eliminated the option to keep retaking the exams until you received a score of 80% or higher? I dont see it mentioned anymore on their website.
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(09-02-2021, 09:23 PM)Pats20 Wrote: Has this program eliminated the option to keep retaking the exams until you received a score of 80% or higher? I dont see it mentioned anymore on their website.

No they have not but some courses do have assignments and projects you only get one shot at submitting for a grade.
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Okay great , I think that’s a pretty neat niche
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(09-02-2021, 08:36 PM)nnahh Wrote:  
Quote:I did not have the time to learn SQL on my own and complete the course, so I’m just happy it’s over. 

I'm just starting. I am in Fundamentals of Data Science. For the SQL course you took, was the DB Postgres only? Or were other databases used also? Thanks.
Currently working on:  Capstone

Eastern University - (9 of 10 Courses Completed) (27 Credits)
Master's in Data Science


Western Governors University (WGU) - Completed in 2020.
Bachelor of Science, Business - Information Technology Management

TEEX (3 courses, 10 cr)  
The Institutes (3 cr) 
NFA (1 cr)  
ALEKS (3 cr) 
SOPHIA (21 courses, 57 cr) 
Study.com (18 courses, 54 cr) 
WGU (12 courses, 38 CUs)
Eastern University (9 courses, 27 cr)
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(09-04-2021, 03:57 PM)AwardTour Wrote:
(09-02-2021, 08:36 PM)nnahh Wrote:  
Quote:I did not have the time to learn SQL on my own and complete the course, so I’m just happy it’s over. 

I'm just starting. I am in Fundamentals of Data Science. For the SQL course you took, was the DB Postgres only? Or were other databases used also? Thanks.
Yes that was the only DB. Feel free to DM for anything when you get to that course
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(09-04-2021, 04:11 PM)nnahh Wrote:
(09-04-2021, 03:57 PM)AwardTour Wrote:
(09-02-2021, 08:36 PM)nnahh Wrote:  
Quote:I did not have the time to learn SQL on my own and complete the course, so I’m just happy it’s over. 

I'm just starting. I am in Fundamentals of Data Science. For the SQL course you took, was the DB Postgres only? Or were other databases used also? Thanks.
Yes that was the only DB. Feel free to DM for anything when you get to that course

Thanks, I appreciate it. It might be the 3rd or 4th course I take.
Currently working on:  Capstone

Eastern University - (9 of 10 Courses Completed) (27 Credits)
Master's in Data Science


Western Governors University (WGU) - Completed in 2020.
Bachelor of Science, Business - Information Technology Management

TEEX (3 courses, 10 cr)  
The Institutes (3 cr) 
NFA (1 cr)  
ALEKS (3 cr) 
SOPHIA (21 courses, 57 cr) 
Study.com (18 courses, 54 cr) 
WGU (12 courses, 38 CUs)
Eastern University (9 courses, 27 cr)
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Any updates on DTSC-670-80Fnds Machine Learning Models and DTSC-600 Information Visualization

I am considering taking these both at the same time starting next week. Can anyone comment on the load/number of assignments? Are a lot of outside resources needed?

I'm just finishing up Principles Python Programming, which is course 5 in the program. I thought it was extremely well put together. Although we had a lot of assignments, they were much better organized and submitted in CodeGrade a lot easier than my prior experience. I also did not need any outside resources which were great for me. 

I would love to hear other's perspectives and progress. 
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(10-14-2021, 10:52 PM)nnahh Wrote: Any updates on DTSC-670-80Fnds Machine Learning Models and DTSC-600 Information Visualization

I am considering taking these both at the same time starting next week. Can anyone comment on the load/number of assignments? Are a lot of outside resources needed?

I'm just finishing up Principles Python Programming, which is course 5 in the program. I thought it was extremely well put together. Although we had a lot of assignments, they were much better organized and submitted in CodeGrade a lot easier than my prior experience. I also did not need any outside resources which were great for me. 

I would love to hear other's perspectives and progress. 

I am taking Principles of Python Programming next as my second course starting next week. The Eastern University Data Science Discord server is probably your best bet for info. It is a student run Discord server so it is not officially run by Eastern University. However, in Brightspace inside of the "Master's in Data Science Program" under "My Courses" you should find the table of contents under the "contents" tab. There is an FAQ that is a google doc titled "DTSC FAQ". That document will provide you with info on how to join the Discord server. When you join there will be specific channels for both of the classes you mentioned.  

Sometime tomorrow I will try to see if there is any info already there for the questions you have asked.
Currently working on:  Capstone

Eastern University - (9 of 10 Courses Completed) (27 Credits)
Master's in Data Science


Western Governors University (WGU) - Completed in 2020.
Bachelor of Science, Business - Information Technology Management

TEEX (3 courses, 10 cr)  
The Institutes (3 cr) 
NFA (1 cr)  
ALEKS (3 cr) 
SOPHIA (21 courses, 57 cr) 
Study.com (18 courses, 54 cr) 
WGU (12 courses, 38 CUs)
Eastern University (9 courses, 27 cr)
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(09-02-2021, 09:42 AM)Pats20 Wrote: I’d say that it may happen but I’ve not heard of anyone having difficulty finding employment  or being turned off by people  because they went to a Christian college or university. IMO if you turn people off by it then you probably don’t want to work for them anyways.

I’m an atheist, but if I ever was going to attend a Christian university, it would be one like Eastern, that has both an innocuous name and is not well known for being religion-focused. Indeed, this name is just amazingly generic!

And from what I’ve read, Eastern doesn’t slam religion down your throat in class.
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