ENEB Master Thread

[soulblader]

Correct me if I am wrong

https://www.ecctis.com/
https://www.enic.org.uk/

is the same service isn't it?

I click https://www.enic.org.uk/Qualifications/SOC/Default.aspx, it bring me to ecctis website

isn't it the same?

[Penny15]

Have whoever get degree from other university eneb's partnership? I see a list university from Spain and Argentina

[slammX]

Have whoever get degree from other university eneb's partnership? I see a list university from Spain and Argentina

They haven't launched these partnerships yet. ENEB has a terrible habit of updating their website before things are actually ready.

[cacoleman1983]

Hello bjcheung77,

The message I posted above is the rejection from Eccits. I submitted an evaluation for 6 degrees, and all of them were rejected yesterday with the response text from above. I also sent an email asking if they do not issue Spanish Level 7 Propio, but unfortunately, I received no information.

You might want to look at some of ENEB's partner universities besides Isabel I that plan to award their own degree along with the ENEB diploma.  Some of those may result in an official Masters diploma which could result in a positive foreign credential evaluation.
https://eneb.com/institutional-alliances/ 

Universidad Azteca also has a validation evaluation system they use to grant an official degree based on previous studies.  
https://universidadazteca.net/degree-validation/

Thank you. Do you have experience with this? Do you know if I can directly contact the partner universities, or do I need to contact ENEB first if I need more information?

For ENEB, I would contact the partner universities to see if they will start issuing validation diplomas now or later.      I have no experience with this other than inquiring about MCA Business School having a partnership with UCAM and finding out that students at MCA are issued a Master Titulo Propio diploma from UCAM in the same way Isabel I does for ENEB.

[GoNo]

Hello bjcheung77,

The message I posted above is the rejection from Eccits. I submitted an evaluation for 6 degrees, and all of them were rejected yesterday with the response text from above. I also sent an email asking if they do not issue Spanish Level 7 Propio, but unfortunately, I received no information.

You might want to look at some of ENEB's partner universities besides Isabel I that plan to award their own degree along with the ENEB diploma.  Some of those may result in an official Masters diploma which could result in a positive foreign credential evaluation.
https://eneb.com/institutional-alliances/ 

Universidad Azteca also has a validation evaluation system they use to grant an official degree based on previous studies.  
https://universidadazteca.net/degree-validation/

Thank you. Do you have experience with this? Do you know if I can directly contact the partner universities, or do I need to contact ENEB first if I need more information?

For ENEB, I would contact the partner universities to see if they will start issuing validation diplomas now or later.      I have no experience with this other than inquiring about MCA Business School having a partnership with UCAM and finding out that students at MCA are issued a Master Titulo Propio diploma from UCAM in the same way Isabel I does for ENEB.

A Diploma on its own doesn't change much. They need to issue a Diploma certificate and a transcript from the institute.

[bjcheung77]

Having ENEB go through a partnership with UCAM or some other institution might work, but since there was a change to some regulations in Spain... I'm just curious how other ENIC/NARIC evaluations will look outside of the UK, I mean if other nations such as Belgium and Australia or New Zealand look at it the same way without any changes, then continuing with ENEB studies would still work. If it's completely different and these countries no longer accept evaluations from institutions/partners, then I would skip ENEB altogether unless you really want to use it for 'prep' work or something.

[BadSquirrelBeta]

I checked over the new Hospitality degree. Yes the course contents are almost completely different! However I'm not sure there isn't still a bunch of overlap between other courses. The degree now contains sections from Accounting, Project Management, Human Resource Management, Strategic Management, Marketing, and Digitalization (chapters with Blockchain, Big Data, AI, etc). Also I feel that some of these sections, such as Blockchain, are irrelevant to the reality of how hotels are run, who runs them, and what you need to know to run one. People in the hotel industry just buy a prebuilt software package subscription without knowing anything about computing and then run it for 20 years.

They removed all the "emotional" aspects that used to be in the degree including Corporate Social Responsibility, NLP and Coaching (unless they renamed the coaching part).

However they also removed a ton of hotel & tourism specific information which should actually be included in a Hotel degree including the history, types & laws of hotels, catering (Food & Beverage Management), Front Desk management and so on. Now there are actually only 3 chapters in the whole degree that are related to hotels.

There will certainly be overlap across a multiple courses, but they have reduced the instances where any one course is significantly similar to any one other course. The way the courses were structured before felt like a money-making exercise because most courses had significant overlap with the MBA. Do the MBA, pay us, do two more courses and we'll give you another Masters. Pay us again, do two more courses and you get another Masters. It was pretty ridiculous to be honest. 

I just compared the new Big Data Masters to the new MBA - they now only have two courses in common, so this is clearly an improvement in the value that each additional Masters will add compared to before.

So I spent about 15 minutes writing ENEB and asking what credit I may be able to get for the new courses in the Master in Coaching and Mindfulness degree program.  

For each course where applicable I indicated which degree along with specifically related courses I previously earned should correlate, such as Project Management for Section 8 of the new degree program.  

We will see how this shakes out.

[Xin]

Having ENEB go through a partnership with UCAM or some other institution might work, but since there was a change to some regulations in Spain... I'm just curious how other ENIC/NARIC evaluations will look outside of the UK, I mean if other nations such as Belgium and Australia or New Zealand look at it the same way without any changes, then continuing with ENEB studies would still work.  If it's completely different and these countries no longer accept evaluations from institutions/partners, then I would skip ENEB altogether unless you really want to use it for 'prep' work or something.

I think our Wikipedia needs a data update. The curriculum has completely changed, changing the content of the modules, the number of hours of study, the number of credits for higher education courses and postgraduate courses, and the presentation of diplomas and certificates, AEEN and EUPHE, and the new institutional consortiums.

[LegalEagle]

I have recently bought the Groupon MBA + Master's voucher. I contacted the admissions office and said I didn't decide on my Master's yet, but asked if they could already setup the MBA portion. They did so and indicated you can always switch within a month. Now with the new MBA and Master's published, and the upcoming AI Master's, I am interested in seeing if I can use my MBA + Master's voucher for the new programs. Sadly, I think their staff is so busy with all the new changes, that I didn't get a reply yet. In the past they replied quite fast.
Also, it seems they did start offering online classes again. I joined one. It was actually pretty decent. Overall I think the program content is a lot of value for money.
Let's see how things go, and if the new MBA and Master's programs become available with my voucher.

[eLearner]

Ha, I just wanted to make it clear that ENEB/Isabel can't do the ECCTIS evaluation and get into the UK Recharge Masters. I just wanted to make that clear.

My post wasn't a reply to yours. It was just a general statement on the matter.