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Someone has put up a bunch of "test prep" (all the answers to the quizzes), and finished homework assignments including from what I can tell of the preview, the author's private information (Name, passport number, address!!), up on a site called coursehero. The school name is "Escola de Negócios do Estado da Bahia" but it looks like it's actually ENEB documents mixed with the documents of a few separate schools. I don't have an account there so I can't confirm anything and I could be wrong. I'll take a while to confirm this is the case and then Email ENEB as well as coursehero (at least they need to see the sense in removing someone's private info) about it if it's true. Or one of you can confirm it for me... I at least find it very hard to believe there's a second school out there with the acronym ENEB which offers courses in NLP and Marketing, and multiple-choice quizzes.
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(12-06-2023, 02:21 PM)Habitus Wrote: I asked ENEB about the Global MBA diploma and did not receive an answer yet. I ordered the physical copy with apostille when they had the discount in October.

For Germany it is important that the Isabel diploma states all degrees explicit (MBA, Master X and Master Y), so you can use them in your CV e. g. Only when the diploma is issued by an accredited university Germany will allow to use the degrees, so the ENEB diplomas are not enough.
Use for what exactly? I don't think that you can use the ECTS academically.
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(12-10-2023, 12:14 PM)Jakob Wrote:
(12-06-2023, 02:21 PM)Habitus Wrote: I asked ENEB about the Global MBA diploma and did not receive an answer yet. I ordered the physical copy with apostille when they had the discount in October.

For Germany it is important that the Isabel diploma states all degrees explicit (MBA, Master X and Master Y), so you can use them in your CV e. g. Only when the diploma is issued by an accredited university Germany will allow to use the degrees, so the ENEB diplomas are not enough.
Use for what exactly? I don't think that you can use the ECTS academically.

They're just talking about using the degree to look better on their CV, not about transferring the credits, right?

When I googled about credit transfer and degree equivalency I found one of the main problems is the following. Aside from curriculum differences, one ECTS credit can be worth an unequal amount of study hours depending on country. This is not an exhaustive list, you can find the real one here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_C...ion_System

25 study or classroom hours - Austria, Spain, Italy
27 - Finland, Sweden
28 - Denmark, The Netherlands, Portugal
30 - Germany, Belgium, Hungary, Romania, Russia

This would help explain why Swedish pages are saying Spanish titulo propio degrees are equal to a Swedish Magister Degree (1 year Master's) and do not need an equivalency check, but Germany is refusing/gatekeeping them. The potential gap in credit hours is too big. 

Now I see why the ENEB degrees are the odd number of 72 credits!! A Spanish degree at 60 ECTS could automatically get evaluated by Germany as worth 50 ECTS; but at 72 ECTS it could potentially be worth 60 ECTS in Germany.

I found a Swedish page saying if you want to check your degree equivalency in Europe you should use ENIC-NARICs (which, the homepage claims, does not function as a FCE in the US): https://www.enic-naric.net/

As I wrote in this thread before, you can often just get a supplement to your degree. Their example was a lady who got her degree in Germany moved to France, but French authorities took two whole years off of her German degree, which she then needed to supplement with two further years of study at a French university. Another example is in Sweden, high school graduation was not seen as equivalent until the student took supplementary Swedish courses. Hopefully you can do something in Germany to make the ENEB degree worthwhile.
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Yesterday, I accessed to take a multiple choice exam but the system has been error until now. Does anyone who can access it?
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(12-10-2023, 02:53 PM)nykorn Wrote:
(12-10-2023, 12:14 PM)Jakob Wrote:
(12-06-2023, 02:21 PM)Habitus Wrote: I asked ENEB about the Global MBA diploma and did not receive an answer yet. I ordered the physical copy with apostille when they had the discount in October.

For Germany it is important that the Isabel diploma states all degrees explicit (MBA, Master X and Master Y), so you can use them in your CV e. g. Only when the diploma is issued by an accredited university Germany will allow to use the degrees, so the ENEB diplomas are not enough.
Use for what exactly? I don't think that you can use the ECTS academically.

They're just talking about using the degree to look better on their CV, not about transferring the credits, right?

Exactly, in Germany you can use the degrees in the form they are mentioned in the diploma. So I really hope that on the Isabel I diploma is not only the "Global MBA" mentioned, but the MBA, Master 1 and Master 2.

Still waiting for an answer by ENEB, it seems they have trouble at the moment answering mails in decent reaction time.
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(12-11-2023, 01:57 PM)Habitus Wrote: Exactly, in Germany you can use the degrees in the form they are mentioned in the diploma. So I really hope that on the Isabel I diploma is not only the "Global MBA" mentioned, but the MBA, Master 1 and Master 2.

Still waiting for an answer by ENEB, it seems they have trouble at the moment answering mails in decent reaction time.

Based on this PDF, it will be split into separate diplomas. Scroll down to where they show 5 separate diplomas:

https://eneb.es/wp-content/uploads/2023/...al_MBA.pdf

I didn't realize that when I wrote some earlier posts, as it's not advertised on their main page (I had to Google the Global Diploma 180 ECTS value to find this PDF - I had wondered why a Spanish site listed 180 ECTS but ENEB itself said 90 ECTS). My apologizes to anyone who read any misinformation I wrote earlier, I can't edit old forum posts.
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The last discount on the Diploma Issuance Fees in October stated:

IF YOU ARE A GLOBAL MBA STUDENT, YOU WILL RECEIVE:
3 Master’s diplomas issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.
1 Global MBA diploma issued by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.

That was why I was asking what exactly is written on the one Global MBA diploma. And this would also mean that the coaching diploma will not be issued by Isabel any longer.
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(12-11-2023, 05:39 PM)Habitus Wrote: The last discount on the Diploma Issuance Fees in October stated:

IF YOU ARE A GLOBAL MBA STUDENT, YOU WILL RECEIVE:
3 Master’s diplomas issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.
1 Global MBA diploma issued by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.

That was why I was asking what exactly is written on the one Global MBA diploma. And this would also mean that the coaching diploma will not be issued by Isabel any longer.

You missed this one:

IF YOU ARE A MASTER’S STUDENT OR PDD STUDENT, YOU WILL RECEIVE:
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.

IF YOU ARE A MASTER’S
STUDENT OR PDD STUDENT,
YOU WILL RECEIVE:
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued
by the European Business School
of Barcelona.
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued
by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued
by the European Business School
of Barcelona.
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Man, why we even still talking about this "school"?
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(12-11-2023, 09:32 PM)armado Wrote:
(12-11-2023, 05:39 PM)Habitus Wrote: The last discount on the Diploma Issuance Fees in October stated:

IF YOU ARE A GLOBAL MBA STUDENT, YOU WILL RECEIVE:
3 Master’s diplomas issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.
1 Global MBA diploma issued by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.

That was why I was asking what exactly is written on the one Global MBA diploma. And this would also mean that the coaching diploma will not be issued by Isabel any longer.

You missed this one:

IF YOU ARE A MASTER’S STUDENT OR PDD STUDENT, YOU WILL RECEIVE:
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued by the European Business School of Barcelona.

IF YOU ARE A MASTER’S
STUDENT OR PDD STUDENT,
YOU WILL RECEIVE:
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued
by the European Business School
of Barcelona.
1 Master’s or PDD diploma issued
by the University Isabel I.
1 Specialization diploma issued
by the European Business School
of Barcelona.

Your example is for students of one Master. In case of two or three (MBA + 2 Masters=Global MBA) you only get one diploma.
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