ENEB Master Thread

[bjcheung77]

If anyone wants to buy extra time anyway, I'm willing to pay the 150€ for the extra program - if it can be gifted, of course.

Until Sept 30: If you're OK with two for 219 Euro, then you can use this link:  https://pay.hotmart.com/F84489702T
For reference: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid404290

[rachel83az]

If anyone wants to buy extra time anyway, I'm willing to pay the 150€ for the extra program - if it can be gifted, of course.

Until Sept 30: If you're OK with two for 219 Euro, then you can use this link:  https://pay.hotmart.com/F84489702T
For reference: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid404290

So I put in my name and email address and it sets me up with the MBA + Master and you get extra time? Just to make sure I don't do something wrong.

[bjcheung77]

Basically, You purchase it, then email evaluations@eneb.com indicating AMBASSADOR314 is gifting this to you.  Also cc, academy@eneb.com and admissions@eneb.com (you don't need to cc ambassadors@eneb.com)

Note: It doesn't have to be the MBA & Masters, you can take any two masters if you're going for the HAU MBA for $3K, WGU MSML, UMPI MAOL, or whatever later down the road.  Select two you want, such as Big Data and PM...

[elcastor21]

We´re already on the page 211 of this thread with well over 2000 posts with so much information that is getting messy, accreditation, legitimacy, evaluations, experiences and so many things that each should have a thread by themselves

Maybe starting a subforum for "ENEB and other propios" or something like that.

[BadSquirrelBeta]

UPDATE:  The non-credit/GPA evaluation from Validential for my husband's Master of Management was evaluated as an RA Masters in the United States.  There is no field on the cover page for a GPA unlike the other evals we've rec'd that have been with the GPA and class by class transcribed.  He had either "Convalidada" or 10s of 9s, so, looking at the transcript if one were to have an employer or some other entity look at it, it's pretty straightforward that it's an All As, 4.0, graded and Pass/Fail courses.  I realize other people may have much different circumstances, but, if this helps and keeps $100 give or take in your pocket, we are glad to share our outcome!

Best of luck to you all!  Happy studies!

[suleyman92]

Today i received the official feedback from NARIC Belgium regarding the equivalency of my master propio (equivalent to an ENEB master):

We have received and examined your request for the recognition of your "Master's Degree in Cyber Security" from Spain, awarded by Structuralia on March 16, 2023.

Our investigation has revealed that the recognition or accreditation is not in order. Recognition or accreditation is proof that an educational program or institution complies with all the regulations of the respective country. Without valid recognition or accreditation, NARIC-Flanders cannot proceed with your application (Article 1 of the Decree of the Flemish Government of June 14, 2013, regarding the conditions and procedure for the recognition of the equivalence of foreign diplomas with Flemish diplomas issued in primary and secondary education, and some Flemish diplomas issued in adult education; Article 1 of the Decree of the Flemish Government regarding the conditions and procedure for the recognition of foreign diplomas issued in higher education).

The entire program was completed in Spain at the unaccredited institution Structuralia. While your diploma was indeed awarded by Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla, this university is solely responsible for diploma validation. Structuralia is an autonomous private institution and is not a part of Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Structuralia is not a faculty of Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Therefore, Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla cannot guarantee the quality of the program, as this falls under the jurisdiction of local authorities. The competent authorities in Spain do not recognize the institution Structuralia, and consequently, they do not recognize the "Master's degree in cybersecurity" program. There is a substantial difference in the quality between the awarding institution and the educational program, as stipulated in Article 5 §5 of the Decree of June 14, 2013, regarding the conditions and procedure for the recognition of foreign diplomas issued in higher education.

Your application with NARIC-Flanders is thus closed.

[rachel83az]

Basically, You purchase it, then email evaluations@eneb.com indicating AMBASSADOR314 is gifting this to you.  Also cc, academy@eneb.com and admissions@eneb.com (you don't need to cc ambassadors@eneb.com)

Note: It doesn't have to be the MBA & Masters, you can take any two masters if you're going for the HAU MBA for $3K, WGU MSML, UMPI MAOL, or whatever later down the road.  Select two you want, such as Big Data and PM...

Cool. I sent them a mail. But it's late in the afternoon on Friday in Spain, I doubt I'll be hearing back from them before the weekend is over.

[eLearner]

There is a substantial difference in the quality between the awarding institution and the educational program, as stipulated in Article 5 §5 of the Decree of June 14, 2013, regarding the conditions and procedure for the recognition of foreign diplomas issued in higher education.

Your application with NARIC-Flanders is thus closed.

No decree from one country can determine the quality of a school from another country. Also, the "substantial difference" part is flawed by itself because this generally isn't true. Many propio programs are not much if at all different from official programs, in fact some propios even have a thesis requirement and take longer to complete than the standard official program in the same subject does.

[suleyman92]

There is a substantial difference in the quality between the awarding institution and the educational program, as stipulated in Article 5 §5 of the Decree of June 14, 2013, regarding the conditions and procedure for the recognition of foreign diplomas issued in higher education.

Your application with NARIC-Flanders is thus closed.

No decree from one country can determine the quality of a school from another country. Also, the "substantial difference" part is flawed by itself because this generally isn't true. Many propio programs are not much if at all different from official programs, in fact some propios even have a thesis requirement and take longer to complete than the standard official program in the same subject does.

That was exactly my thought as well. I did also have a thesis and I have sent it to them. But they see it this way, I followed the course from Structuralia (or any other third party like ENEB) who isn't accredited and hence the program isn't accredited they won't give a positive evaluation. While on UI1 it clearly shows their official partners and they hand out the degree. I'm currently a bit lost for words since I wasn't expecting this outcome.

I could file an appeal but not sure if It's worth it. In Spain propio degrees are still valid degrees since they carry ECTS . But Belgium Naric doesn't seem to care much.

[Kab]

They make reference to the European reference frame and it's transposition to local legislations, I guess.