ENEB Master Thread

[rachel83az]

ENEB is not a scam. MCA arguably could be. It's definitely on the shady side. If ENEB doesn't fill the purposes that you want, that's fine. But it doesn't make them a scam. There are worse ways to spend $300. I'd personally rather have a titulo propio than 1 or 2 certificates of dubious quality from Coursera/edX.

What they are selling is not a legit, accredited master's degree (let alone TWO of them) in the US.

It's been evaluated as equivalent to a Bachelor's degree, at the very least. A second Bachelor's degree or even just a (grad) certificate for $300 + evaluation costs is a good deal. It doesn't have to be equivalent to a Master's degree. It's still legit, whether or not it works for your needs is another matter.

And I said that if all you want is to learn a few things, you'd be better off taking free MOOCs than spending money on a "master's program" of unquestionably dubious quality. But if everyone wants to jump through hoops to try to turn it into something it's not JUST because it's cheap, have at it.

A free MOOC isn't going to give you a certificate or anything like that. Pretty worthless for everything except 100% personal enrichment. If you're looking for that, this forum probably isn't the right place for you. And something like "MBA (Titulo Propio), Isabel I" is going to carry more weight with more employers than something like this specialization: https://www.coursera.org/specializations...management?

An unaccredited $300 degree (sorry, two degrees...   )from Spain is of very little value in the US. In Europe, maybe.

See above. Also, not everyone in this forum is American.

I just find it amusing that people here question the legitimacy of a degree from the UK's Open University, while twisting themselves into a pretzel to make this a thing. If there's one thing all Groupon schools have in common, it's that they sell their programs for peanuts for a reason.

I haven't seen anyone questioning Open University's legitimacy in a while. They do, however, tend to be stupidly expensive for people outside the UK. Dumb name, too, which is probably why people even question if it's a valid university or not.

[eLearner]

What they are selling is not a legit, accredited master's degree (let alone TWO of them) in the US.

And I said that if all you want is to learn a few things, you'd be better off taking free MOOCs than spending money on a "master's program" of unquestionably dubious quality. But if everyone wants to jump through hoops to try to turn it into something it's not JUST because it's cheap, have at it. An unaccredited $300 degree (sorry, two degrees...   )from Spain is of very little value in the US. In Europe, maybe.

I just find it amusing that people here question the legitimacy of a degree from the UK's Open University, while twisting themselves into a pretzel to make this a thing. If there's one thing all Groupon schools have in common, it's that they sell their programs for peanuts for a reason.

But what do you see as "hoops"? The evaluations? You would need that for any foreign degree if transferring or trying to get admitted into a higher degree program, and what's interesting is that degrees from UK Gov recognized schools have gotten unfavorable evaluations, some far below what ENEB has gotten. SteveFoerster has pointed out the Heriot-Watt MBA that once got evaluated as an Associate degree, lol. None of the ENEB evaluations have returned a bad result like that and I think we can all agree that HW is far more prestigious than ENEB, and costs a lot more. So imagine spending all of that money at HW for an MBA only to have it evaluated as an Associate degree. Brutal.

ENEB wasn't always on Groupon nor did they charge so little, they once charged a lot more, about $8,000. But they made a business move to gain more exposure and bring in more funds. It's been both a blessing and a curse. A blessing because they've certainly accomplished their main goal, but a curse because people use it against them. Thing is, we've had regionally accredited schools use Groupon before, like National Louis University and ASA College for example. ENEB worked out an arrangement to be on Amazon, too, there was a story written up about it some time ago, but it's only in Spain at the moment because they ship a physical package.

As a sidenote: ASA which has been known as a regionally accredited school is now using the Department of Education's updated "institutionally accredited" term.

[rachel83az]

I would be absolutely furious at paying 10k for an MBA and then having it evaluate as an Associate's degree. That would be such a slap in the face.

[Vle045]

ohhhh.... I want a physical package! Their website says everyone gets a tablet. I am pretty sure that does not apply to us Groupon shlubs.

[rachel83az]

ohhhh.... I want a physical package!  Their website says everyone gets a tablet.  I am pretty sure that does not apply to us Groupon shlubs.  

It took some digging but the Amazon page is here: https://www.amazon.es/MBA-M%C3%A1ster-Ad...B07T8H2TZB It looks like Amazon buyers get some sort of customized thumb drive. I'm very tempted to purchase it just to see what arrives, lol.

[eLearner]

ohhhh.... I want a physical package!  Their website says everyone gets a tablet.  I am pretty sure that does not apply to us Groupon shlubs.  

Nope. Only the people who pay the full $7-8,000 (or equivalent price amount in a person's given currency) get that, or at least the last time I checked.

[Vle045]

ohhhh.... I want a physical package!  Their website says everyone gets a tablet.  I am pretty sure that does not apply to us Groupon shlubs.  

It took some digging but the Amazon page is here: https://www.amazon.es/MBA-M%C3%A1ster-Ad...B07T8H2TZB It looks like Amazon buyers get some sort of customized thumb drive. I'm very tempted to purchase it just to see what arrives, lol.

That looks like a SIM card.  Perhaps wifi/online access is not as easy to come by and/or is included with enrollment.

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ohhhh.... I want a physical package!  Their website says everyone gets a tablet.  I am pretty sure that does not apply to us Groupon shlubs.  

Nope. Only the people who pay the full $7-8,000 (or equivalent price amount in a person's given currency) get that, or at least the last time I checked.

I think I will stick with my under $300 degree package.  

[rachel83az]

It took some digging but the Amazon page is here: https://www.amazon.es/MBA-M%C3%A1ster-Ad...B07T8H2TZB It looks like Amazon buyers get some sort of customized thumb drive. I'm very tempted to purchase it just to see what arrives, lol.

That looks like a SIM card.  Perhaps wifi/online access is not as easy to come by and/or is included with enrollment.

Definitely not a SIM card. It's something like these: https://www.customusb.com/usb-business-c...icro-flip/

[Thorne]

What they are selling is not a legit, accredited master's degree (let alone TWO of them) in the US.

And I said that if all you want is to learn a few things, you'd be better off taking free MOOCs than spending money on a "master's program" of unquestionably dubious quality. But if everyone wants to jump through hoops to try to turn it into something it's not JUST because it's cheap, have at it. An unaccredited $300 degree (sorry, two degrees...   )from Spain is of very little value in the US. In Europe, maybe.

I just find it amusing that people here question the legitimacy of a degree from the UK's Open University, while twisting themselves into a pretzel to make this a thing. If there's one thing all Groupon schools have in common, it's that they sell their programs for peanuts for a reason.

But what do you see as "hoops"? The evaluations? You would need that for any foreign degree if transferring or trying to get admitted into a higher degree program, and what's interesting is that degrees from UK Gov recognized schools have gotten unfavorable evaluations, some far below what ENEB has gotten. SteveFoerster has pointed out the Heriot-Watt MBA that once got evaluated as an Associate degree, lol. None of the ENEB evaluations have returned a bad result like that and I think we can all agree that HW is far more prestigious than ENEB, and costs a lot more. So imagine spending all of that money at HW for an MBA only to have it evaluated as an Associate degree. Brutal.

ENEB wasn't always on Groupon nor did they charge so little, they once charged a lot more, about $8,000. But they made a business move to gain more exposure and bring in more funds. It's been both a blessing and a curse. A blessing because they've certainly accomplished their main goal, but a curse because people use it against them. Thing is, we've had regionally accredited schools use Groupon before, like National Louis University and ASA College for example. ENEB worked out an arrangement to be on Amazon, too, there was a story written up about it some time ago, but it's only in Spain at the moment because they ship a physical package.

As a sidenote: ASA which has been known as a regionally accredited school is now using the Department of Education's updated "institutionally accredited" term.

Don't feed the trolls. This is no different than dealing with the elitists who think that the only valid degree is one from an RA institution that cost you an arm, a leg, and a kidney to pay for. Oh, and let's not forget that they can't be from an online school or a school that is any less prestigious than their alma mater or you're an unethical sack who wants to lie to people and pretend to have something you don't.

[cacoleman1983]

Well those who enroll at ENEB say it is a good program and that is all that matters. Just don't do the MCA validation as you will be paying more than the ENEB program itself and it is a waste of money that will not give any good outcomes that I can think of. ENEB needs to stop offering MCA or they will find themselves in trouble. They should instead partner with a foreign evaluator who will give them that US regionally accredited Masters equivalency everyone wants.