ENEB Master Thread

[durain]

*** Update ***

Just completed all courses in my degree and they will be emailing me a copy of the diploma from both ENEB and Isabel I. cost to get a physical copy is $145 for international students. What this means is that if I need to get it evaluated (if I have a use case) then I'll have to get it mailed to WES and pay another $145. 


BTW, is anyone familiar with a NACES member who can accept soft copies of a diploma vs a physical copy mailed to them?

Hmm, I'd be surprised if any would agree to that, but if you find one, please let us know!

WES should only need to evaluate the official transcripts. They need to examine the  actual copy of the diploma?

[spoilt999]

*** Update ***

Just completed all courses in my degree and they will be emailing me a copy of the diploma from both ENEB and Isabel I. cost to get a physical copy is $145 for international students. What this means is that if I need to get it evaluated (if I have a use case) then I'll have to get it mailed to WES and pay another $145. 


BTW, is anyone familiar with a NACES member who can accept soft copies of a diploma vs a physical copy mailed to them?

Hmm, I'd be surprised if any would agree to that, but if you find one, please let us know!

WES should only need to evaluate the official transcripts. They need to examine the  actual copy of the diploma?

I meant ENEB will send diploma and transcript together so WES will receive both

[eLearner]

I have strong reservations that WES is going to work with that. I would talk to RFValve on DegreeInfo, or maybe he's here somewhere lurking. He has some good experience with NACES evaluators and different delivery methods.

[durain]

*** Update ***

Just completed all courses in my degree and they will be emailing me a copy of the diploma from both ENEB and Isabel I. cost to get a physical copy is $145 for international students. What this means is that if I need to get it evaluated (if I have a use case) then I'll have to get it mailed to WES and pay another $145. 


BTW, is anyone familiar with a NACES member who can accept soft copies of a diploma vs a physical copy mailed to them?

Hmm, I'd be surprised if any would agree to that, but if you find one, please let us know!

WES should only need to evaluate the official transcripts. They need to examine the  actual copy of the diploma?

I meant ENEB will send diploma and transcript together so WES will receive both

Just curious. Firstly,  for WES course by course evaluation, you are requesting ENEB or Uni Isabel 1 to send WES the transcript? 
Secondly, can you just request for the transcript and not the physical diploma? That would be cheaper if possible?

[Silvious]

https://accounts.ece.org/DocumentRequirement/183

"If your institution issues electronic documents that include a Código Seguro de Verificación (CSV), then you may submit photocopies or scans"

ECE is another NACES member that seems to be one of the evaluator that accepts scan for transcript as UI1 is providing you the CSV.

[spoilt999]

I reached out to ENEB to get any details they have on WES evaluation and here's their response


"We would like to advise you that the cost of the required procedure is 310 CAD and the time to process and send the documents as requested is 30 natural days. 
 
On the other hand, once we have processed the shipment and it has been accepted, it will be the institution itself that will set the time from there. We will not be responsible for any delays, so from the moment we send the documents you must contact the institution directly to obtain all the information you need. 
 
At the same time, due to our experience in this type of procedure, you should also take into account the following:
 
We understand that these are urgent procedures, but we can only commit that the institution of destination will receive it in a maximum of 30 natural days. We will always try to facilitate it as much as possible but there are factors beyond our control that mean that we cannot always do so before these 30 days. 
 
We will contact you when the dispatch has been made and we will provide you with a tracking number, so that from that moment on you can manage the shipping and you will be able to contact the institution to continue with the next steps of the process, which would no longer be our responsibility.
 
It is not possible to make dispatches on behalf of Universidad Isabel I as they do not provide this service, nor can you sign on their behalf. Due to previous experiences, WES did not admit the sending of the diplomas of Universidad Isabel I signed by our institution, so we will only send the diplomas issued by ENEB. If you wish, we can include the diploma of the University but we will not be responsible for an eventual non acceptance of the sent documents. 
 
The Escuela de Negocios Europea de Barcelona (ENEB) is not responsible for the non-acceptance of documents for reasons beyond our control (that the documents are not complete, that they were not correctly detailed...etc). Therefore, it is the student who must ensure, firstly, that the information is transmitted accurately and, secondly, that all the requirements demanded by the destination institution are met in order for the procedure to be approved. "

I guess it's clear that Isabel I can't send a copy. Sounds very fishy to me

[SteveFoerster]

"Fishy" suggests duplicity, making it the wrong word. The question has never been whether the program is tun by ENEB or UI1, so it's not surprising that documentation would come from ENEB.

[innen_oda]

I reached out to ENEB to get any details they have on WES evaluation and here's their response

"We would like to advise you that the cost of the required procedure is 310 CAD and the time to process and send the documents as requested is 30 natural days. 

You pay the cost of the programme to get a hard copy of your degree?

This sounds like the RyanAir of degree programmes: the ticket is remarkably cheap, but once you add in grossly-inflated costs for fundamentals, you end up paying a lot to fly to middle-of-nowhere, Belgium, with miserable service to boot.

[SteveFoerster]

Is it better to pay one hundred times as much for the program and have a lower fee for transcripts?

[innen_oda]

Is it better to pay one hundred times as much for the program and have a lower fee for transcripts?

If your programme provides other benefits (alumni connections, education, an actual LEGITIMATE degree), then perhaps so, yes. Depends what you want out of your x100 programme.

But your (disingenuous) question is not nearly the gotcha you're hoping it is, because spending $600 for something with little/no value is not somehow given greater value simply because other people are spending $60 000 for something with some/little/no value.

Reminds me of late-night infomercials, and the clever psychology used to get you to buy their crap: some chintzy piece of jewelry or whatever is only $50, 'a $500 value - save $450!'
It plays on the hope that people will think 'oh great, I'll save $450 AND get a piece of jewelry - think of all the things I can buy with that $450!' instead of realising they haven't 'saved' anything; they've just spent $50 on something they don't need and 5 minutes ago didn't even know they wanted.
Even if some neighbourhood fella down the street bought the same jewelry for $500, if it turns out the jewelry is worthless, and/or you don't need it anyway, you're not ahead of your neighbour - now both of you have wasted money.

But unlike the jewelry, which is a 20 minute phone call to get, this 'degree' requires hundreds of hours of time.

I just don't see the point in spending even $600 (which for my country, is more than the average monthly wage), for something that appears worthless. It could be $1, and it'd still be a waste of money.

Spending 600USD and hundreds of hours of irreplaceable time of your life for a piece of paper, a piece of paper so worthless that even one of the two schools involved in this charade won't recognise it . . . how is any of this the 'better' option?