Capstone requirement change at TESU

[AwardTour]

I have some bad grades from a community college from about 20 years ago. There might be an "academic forgiveness policy" at that college that allows you to erase your old record but I am not 100% sure. 

I planned on just not submitting those records to TESU. I don't want my GPA to get wrecked because of these old classes. Will TESU still find out about these old classes even if I don't submit any transcripts for it? The classes would not map to anything in my degree plan anyways other than possibly free electives. My plan is just to submit my ACE transcript and leave it at that. Will I be facing any issues with TESU?

[davewill]

I have some bad grades from a community college from about 20 years ago. There might be an "academic forgiveness policy" at that college that allows you to erase your old record but I am not 100% sure. 

I planned on just not submitting those records to TESU. I don't want my GPA to get wrecked because of these old classes. Will TESU still find out about these old classes even if I don't submit any transcripts for it? The classes would not map to anything in my degree plan anyways other than possibly free electives. My plan is just to submit my ACE transcript and leave it at that. Will I be facing any issues with TESU?

Yeah, I'm afraid so. They will require you to send all of your transcripts before they will let you graduate. Your previous school attendance will likely be recorded at the National Student Clearinghouse, which TESU will check before approving your graduation. However, TESU doesn't include your previous coursework in their GPA, and I think the worst that happens if your outside GPA is below 2.0 is that they refuse to transfer courses where you got less than a "C" until the transfer courses DO make the 2.0 GPA requirement. If your previous GPA is at least 2.0, then you have no issue at all.

Go ahead and send the old transcripts.

[AwardTour]

I have some bad grades from a community college from about 20 years ago. There might be an "academic forgiveness policy" at that college that allows you to erase your old record but I am not 100% sure. 

I planned on just not submitting those records to TESU. I don't want my GPA to get wrecked because of these old classes. Will TESU still find out about these old classes even if I don't submit any transcripts for it? The classes would not map to anything in my degree plan anyways other than possibly free electives. My plan is just to submit my ACE transcript and leave it at that. Will I be facing any issues with TESU?

Yeah, I'm afraid so. They will require you to send all of your transcripts before they will let you graduate. Your previous school attendance will likely be recorded at the National Student Clearinghouse, which TESU will check before approving your graduation. However, TESU doesn't include your previous coursework in their GPA, and I think the worst that happens if your outside GPA is below 2.0 is that they refuse to transfer courses where you got less than a "C" until the transfer courses DO make the 2.0 GPA requirement. If your previous GPA is at least 2.0, then you have no issue at all.

Go ahead and send the old transcripts.

Thanks for the info, my old GPA from CC is below a 2.0. If TESU can overlook that and not count that against my GPA with them then that would be ideal.

[Mab81]

Good morning everyone. I got a reply from TESU. I asked specifically whether i would have an issue registering for the capstone because I have no 'regular' credits from b&m schools, and therefore no GPA. This is the reply from TESU:

"As long as the English Composition sequence, the core and the area of study requirements are all successfully completed by the time you're ready to register for BUS-421, there should be no reason that the registration hold will not be lifted.

Patricia Certo, MBA"

[Supermind]

My first academic evaluation has just been completed. It was fairly quick- 10 days since I sent in my transcripts. The evaluation shows ‘basic GPA requirements met: YES.’ So, I guess all is good for now. Just need to clear the English writing requirements, which I plan to complete by end of this month.

[fork]

As if taking courses from SL or SDC really prepares anyone for the capstone. cmon, really??
I have not experienced very tough grading so far...

If TESU really did care about preparing students for the capstone, than a mandatory university level writing course would make sense.
Anything else is just a pointless money grab, just as the cornerstone was.

They do require the standard college English courses which cover research papers. You should have finished them before trying the capstone. Specifying 100 credits first is surely an attempt to get better prepared students in the capstone courses. Nothing here sounds like a money grab, unless they try to specify a certain number of TESU courses, which they haven't done.

Having graded credit as possibly a requirement based on the wording in the 2019 policy was basically what he was alluding to when creating this thread. Which means either courses at TESU or some other B&M institution. 

I don't know about everyone else on here, but I certainly didn't learn a great deal from taking English Comp 1 and 2.

Please stop taking about this. With all the course provides, TESU, possibly ACE and all the providers and big 3 lurking on here please stop. Some people will learn and some people with experience will know more than others. I personally learned some things and some things I learnt. That is what competency learning is about, demonstrating you gained knowledge from outside the classroom being on job or whatever. Anyone who reads casually and has a job would easily pass Eng Comp I and 2. However I dare you to go the final exam of Calc 1, Calc 2, Discrete Math, Statistics, some UL business and comp sci courses etc and you will fail.

Please stop giving providers a reason to make things harder than they are. Look at ALEKS, people with dyscalculia were thankful they could do intermediate algebra (and at one time beginning algebra) and at least get a BALS degree to keep their job or get promoted and feed their families.

Some fools started posting they cheat this way and that and not learn anything etc and got beginning algebra removed, then got intermediate algebra removed and in part probably prevented ALEKS from getting long term renewal.

Just be thankful we can get a degree and stop talking about not learning anything before TESU states "From Jan 2019 all writing courses must be done at TESU".

Just please stop this madness, and let people earn their degrees in peace. If YOU dint learn anything fine, but don't make it sound like no one learns anything, which is what you are saying from MY perspective.

Lets us earn out degrees and let other after us experience the path of least resistance and shut your pie holes about not learning!! Before someone important sees Lol   I for one learned a lot from some of my courses, thank you very much, including Eng Comp. I never did an interview before that and it was a good experience.

For some people this is the ONLY way they can earn a degree and feed their families, don't ruin it!!

I would not worry about this at all! I have been rather shocked to see the low research/writing ability of people who have come into the capstone course through more traditional means, most of them being at the end of their (Bachelor) educational journey. If B&M and TESU online classes cannot prepare them to be researchers and writers in a Bachelor-level capstone class then I don't think anything else will either. Although, I will grant that the pace and requirements of this class seem beyond the undergrad level to me. Still, I would be willing to bet that most students coming in from the self-directed route have higher ability and motivation and the options TESU is providing for us are not at risk of going away. They just need to keep their accreditation providers satisfied.

[Supermind]

I got a confirmation from my advisor that I will be allowed to enrol for the Capstone once I complete:
English Composition- 101 & 102
‘Most’ of my AOS
99 credits applied towards my degree.

I am confident I will meet the first two requirements by January 25th, 2019. But it might be another month before I gather 99 credits. And the March 2019 Capstone registration is from January 18-February 9. Can I request TESU to make an exception in my case? Bcos I do not want to be left out of March 2019 Capstone.

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Going by my estimates, I should have 97 credits by February 25th. I complete about 6 courses each month. Is there any ‘quick’ solution to earn credits? I am progressing as fast as I possibly can.

[Merlin]

I got a confirmation from my advisor that I will be allowed to enrol for the Capstone once I complete:
English Composition- 101 & 102
‘Most’ of my AOS
99 credits applied towards my degree.

I am confident I will meet the first two requirements by January 25th, 2019. But it might be another month before I gather 99 credits. And the March 2019 Capstone registration is from January 18-February 9. Can I request TESU to make an exception in my case? Bcos I do not want to be left out of March 2019 Capstone.

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Going by my estimates, I should have 97 credits by February 25th. I complete about 6 courses each month. Is there any ‘quick’ solution to earn credits? I am progressing as fast as I possibly can.

6 courses (18 credits) per month is incredibly fast, without cheating I don't think there is any way to move more quickly than that. I think most people average closer to 2-3 per month. I suspect once you start moving through the UL AOS courses you may find yourself slowing down. I know I was moving much faster through the LL courses and slowed down a bit when I hit the UL and more mathy courses.

You can always explain your plan to the advisor and see if they will waive the capstone lock. Or focus on the specific courses that are considered pre-reqs for the Capstone (like english comp and any that are listed in the syllabus as recommended) and then explain that youi've completed those requirements and ask for the waiver.

[Supermind]

I got a confirmation from my advisor that I will be allowed to enrol for the Capstone once I complete:
English Composition- 101 & 102
‘Most’ of my AOS
99 credits applied towards my degree.

I am confident I will meet the first two requirements by January 25th, 2019. But it might be another month before I gather 99 credits. And the March 2019 Capstone registration is from January 18-February 9. Can I request TESU to make an exception in my case? Bcos I do not want to be left out of March 2019 Capstone.

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Going by my estimates, I should have 97 credits by February 25th. I complete about 6 courses each month. Is there any ‘quick’ solution to earn credits? I am progressing as fast as I possibly can.

6 courses (18 credits) per month is incredibly fast, without cheating I don't think there is any way to move more quickly than that. I think most people average closer to 2-3 per month. I suspect once you start moving through the UL AOS courses you may find yourself slowing down. I know I was moving much faster through the LL courses and slowed down a bit when I hit the UL and more mathy courses.

You can always explain your plan to the advisor and see if they will waive the capstone lock. Or focus on the specific courses that are considered pre-reqs for the Capstone (like english comp and any that are listed in the syllabus as recommended) and then explain that youi've completed those requirements and ask for the waiver.

Thank you Merlin. In my case, I decided to tackle my UL courses first. I am left with only one more UL course to go, which I hope to complete in January. Once I transfer my credits in January, and near about 80 credits, I will make a request.

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After January 2019, I will be left with mostly only ‘filler courses’ to complete- all electives, etc.

[Merlin]

I got a confirmation from my advisor that I will be allowed to enrol for the Capstone once I complete:
English Composition- 101 & 102
‘Most’ of my AOS
99 credits applied towards my degree.

I am confident I will meet the first two requirements by January 25th, 2019. But it might be another month before I gather 99 credits. And the March 2019 Capstone registration is from January 18-February 9. Can I request TESU to make an exception in my case? Bcos I do not want to be left out of March 2019 Capstone.

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Going by my estimates, I should have 97 credits by February 25th. I complete about 6 courses each month. Is there any ‘quick’ solution to earn credits? I am progressing as fast as I possibly can.

6 courses (18 credits) per month is incredibly fast, without cheating I don't think there is any way to move more quickly than that. I think most people average closer to 2-3 per month. I suspect once you start moving through the UL AOS courses you may find yourself slowing down. I know I was moving much faster through the LL courses and slowed down a bit when I hit the UL and more mathy courses.

You can always explain your plan to the advisor and see if they will waive the capstone lock. Or focus on the specific courses that are considered pre-reqs for the Capstone (like english comp and any that are listed in the syllabus as recommended) and then explain that youi've completed those requirements and ask for the waiver.

Thank you Merlin. In my case, I decided to tackle my UL courses first. I am left with only one more UL course to go, which I hope to complete in January. Once I transfer my credits in January, and near about 80 credits, I will make a request.

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After January 2019, I will be left with mostly only ‘filler courses’ to complete- all electives, etc.

Sounds like you'll have all your AOS completed by then. I suspect if you can show that and the english comp courses as complete, you should have no issues.