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06-09-2019, 11:09 AM
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Now you got me looking for my "degree plan" from TESU in 2012. Now at this point, I had no college credits and somehow thought I could easily earn my degree by taking all cleps/dssts and no studying (think bain4weeks.) Also, keep mind, other alt. methods didn't exist and also more cleps came in as UL so this was possible. What I failed to realize is that cleps aren't easy, especially if you no nothing about the subject. Like for instance I know nothing about accounting so I can't go in and just take the accounting clep cold. Also my plan wasn't even accurate because I didn't have this fourm, I just guessed where things might fit. I didn't end up taking my first clep until 2015. It's 2019 and still no degree, too bad I didn't at least apply and I could have been on a 2012 catalog.
Side note: I just realized why a few weeks ago I posted a thread confused about how the residency wavier works and asking if you had to pay it every year. That's because TESU used to have a fee you had to pay every year before the residency wavier.
I'm looking through my computer to see if I can find it. Although, I did find a printed list of all the TECE's from 2015(?) idk when but there were a lot more TECEPS offered including the business capstone as a TECEP.
EDIT: I found the old requirements for a BA in communication. It is from 2015, the requirements for the AOS were easier not take not courses at TESU as the major was just interpersonal communication and mass communication and the rest is communication electives. Lots of cheap CC's have courses in IPC and Mass Com, plus there was a UExcel for IPC, plus there were more com related TECEPS back then.
Also did TESU used to require more UL credit or have a different requirement for UL credit? Like it could be in anywhere not just the AOS to count as the requirement? Because that is what it appears to look like to me.
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A HUGE change at TESU was their reclassification of 200 level credit. It wasn't considered lower level until after 2009 or 10.
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06-09-2019, 12:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-09-2019, 12:25 PM by sanantone.)
(06-09-2019, 11:09 AM)natshar Wrote: Now you got me looking for my "degree plan" from TESU in 2012. Now at this point, I had no college credits and somehow thought I could easily earn my degree by taking all cleps/dssts and no studying (think bain4weeks.) Also, keep mind, other alt. methods didn't exist and also more cleps came in as UL so this was possible. What I failed to realize is that cleps aren't easy, especially if you no nothing about the subject. Like for instance I know nothing about accounting so I can't go in and just take the accounting clep cold. Also my plan wasn't even accurate because I didn't have this fourm, I just guessed where things might fit. I didn't end up taking my first clep until 2015. It's 2019 and still no degree, too bad I didn't at least apply and I could have been on a 2012 catalog.
Side note: I just realized why a few weeks ago I posted a thread confused about how the residency wavier works and asking if you had to pay it every year. That's because TESU used to have a fee you had to pay every year before the residency wavier.
I'm looking through my computer to see if I can find it. Although, I did find a printed list of all the TECE's from 2015(?) idk when but there were a lot more TECEPS offered including the business capstone as a TECEP.
EDIT: I found the old requirements for a BA in communication. It is from 2015, the requirements for the AOS were easier not take not courses at TESU as the major was just interpersonal communication and mass communication and the rest is communication electives. Lots of cheap CC's have courses in IPC and Mass Com, plus there was a UExcel for IPC, plus there were more com related TECEPS back then.
Also did TESU used to require more UL credit or have a different requirement for UL credit? Like it could be in anywhere not just the AOS to count as the requirement? Because that is what it appears to look like to me. I didn't discover TESU until 2010. The number of required UL credits was the same. It was 18 credits in the AOS.
TESU's psychology and criminal justice degrees used to be more flexible. There were fewer required courses, so you could mostly choose any psychology or CJ course you wanted.
(06-09-2019, 11:57 AM)cookderosa Wrote: A HUGE change at TESU was their reclassification of 200 level credit. It wasn't considered lower level until after 2009 or 10.
By the time I enrolled in 2011, 200-level courses were LL. However, a CC course could be evaluated as 300 or 400-level.
Straighterline used to have more science courses. They had physics and chemistry I and II with labs. I missed the gravy train from Mountain State University. They had every introductory science course you could need with labs, and they were a lot cheaper than UNE. Ohio University used to have a lot more credit-by-exam options. I'd rather have those RA options back instead of all the new ACE providers that make you take umpteen million high school-level quizzes for credits that aren't accepted at most colleges.
Before my time, Excelsior had all kinds of ECEs (Excelsior exams now known as Uexcels). I believe they had electronics and all kinds of cool stuff. This probably wasn't a good thing since the failure rates were so high, but medical assistants and EMT-Bs could be admitted to the nursing program. They also accepted certified midwives and respiratory therapists.
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06-09-2019, 12:39 PM
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(06-09-2019, 12:13 PM)sanantone Wrote: I didn't discover TESU until 2010. The number of required UL credits was the same. It was 18 credits in the AOS.
You are right. It was probably just my poor "planning" (if you could call it that). Back then I remember I spent only 10 minutes making a BAin4weeks all clep/dsst style plan with no research and just plan the UL exams in free gen ed electives thinking they would count as the required UL credit. I didn't know a thing....
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(06-09-2019, 12:39 PM)natshar Wrote: (06-09-2019, 12:13 PM)sanantone Wrote: I didn't discover TESU until 2010. The number of required UL credits was the same. It was 18 credits in the AOS.
You are right. It was probably just my poor "planning" (if you could call it that). Back then I remember I spent only 10 minutes making a BAin4weeks all clep/dsst style plan with no research and just plan the UL exams in free gen ed electives thinking they would count as the required UL credit. I didn't know a thing....
Keep in mind that back in the "BAin4weeks" days, CLEP/DSST exams were not only free for military, but you had unlimited takes (now your first shot is free, but you pay after that). So military people would go in and just take them all and see what stuck.
Now though, there are SO many more options for credits, it's crazy!
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