BACS in TESU , then later BSBA Healthcare Management

[ss20ts]

Existing credit:

High School - IGCSE - Advanced Levels

• Biology AL -->  D
  
• Chemistry AS --> D
  
• Information Technology  AS --> D
  

sadly, they are all Ds, but fortunately, it seems they can be transferred  to General Education. 

Why do you believe high school courses would apply to a bachelor's degree? I looked up IGCSE and those would be the equivalent of GED courses which is an alternative to a high school diploma. I don't see IGCSE in TESU's catalog. I'm curious where you found info that it would transfer.

[borrs]

Existing credit:

High School - IGCSE - Advanced Levels

• Biology AL -->  D
  
• Chemistry AS --> D
  
• Information Technology  AS --> D
  

sadly, they are all Ds, but fortunately, it seems they can be transferred  to General Education. 

Why do you believe high school courses would apply to a bachelor's degree? I looked up IGCSE and those would be the equivalent of GED courses which is an alternative to a high school diploma. I don't see IGCSE in TESU's catalog. I'm curious where you found info that it would transfer.

TESU will not accept IGCSE as is. To my understanding, you first have to evaluate and equalize to US AP classes, via third party. which is then accepted by TESU.

I think AL are worth 9-12 credits (depending on grade and school), and AS is worth 3-6 credits.

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NA credits from UPeople - not accepted at TESU

Q1 - the graduate credits will come in where they come in - and yours look to be free electives, unfortunately.

Q2 - course list is up-to-date, yes they take that course

Q3 - Study.com has Software Engineering, but it's LL.  That means that you need to find one more UL course to bring in.  If you can't pass the Network Technology TECEP exam, then you're kind of screwed.  You need 18cr of UL, Study.com has 4, the capstone is 1, that leaves 1 UL.  FHSU is MUCH cheaper than OSU (not sure why anyone would do that instead) - but the problem you may have is that most schools aren't going to let you just come in and take a single UL CompSci course.  They'll have all kinds of pre-reqs that you won't be able to meet (you won't have them as graded credit and these schools don't take ACE).  So your best bet is to pay full price at TESU ($1600), or else do the 16cr term.

Q4 - Gen Ed has those specific requirements, no getting around them.  You can bring in more science courses, but they will go in as electives for the major (6cr) and then free electives. CIS-107 won't fit in the GE if Chem & Bio go there, so it would go to the AoS electives instead.

Yes, the courses listed will transfer.

TESU will make you pay a 2nd residency waiver for the 2nd degree - so it's not at all worth that price in my opinion.  First degree there would be $6498 for 6cr + RW, 2nd degree will be $4893 for 3cr + RW.  For the price, I think you're much better off doing the Business degree at UMPI if you bother doing it at all.

thank you for taking the time to answer each and every question,
Much appreciated!

it's a bummer that i may need to pay another RW. But again, the second degree is not necessary . it just a bonus opportunity

[rachel83az]

One option to avoid the residency waiver would be to do a 16-credit term at TESU. The Software Engineering course is actually recommended for this due to how little time (relatively speaking) it takes to complete. So, for your needs, the possible courses would look something like:

Cornerstone
Capstone
Software Engineering
CIS-107 ePack
Another easy 100/200-level ePack or course
PLA-100

This way, you would both get Software Engineering and you would avoid paying the residency waiver. Coming back for a second degree would also not require a residency waiver, then.

[carrythenothing]

It'd require more lab sciences, but you might also be interested in the BS in Health Services Technology. It would meet the arbitary preference for a BS while also being very likely to accept the maximum credit transfer from your MPH and avoiding calculus.

Degree requirements (can be fulfilled through general education or electives)

• Computer Concepts (CIS-107) or higher
  
• Statistics
  
• College Algebra
  
• Anatomy and Physiology I with Lab
  
• Anatomy and Physiology II with Lab
  
• Chemistry I with Lab
  
• Biology I
  

Area of study is 59 credits

• College Algebra
  
• Anatomy and Physiology I with Lab
  
• Anatomy and Physiology II with Lab
  
• 30 credits in professional health requirements
  
• 12 credits in professional electives
  
• Computer requirement
  
• APS-401 (capstone)
  

15 credits in free electives, which you can fill with computer science

[rachel83az]

If you go for the Health Services Tech degree:
Computer Concepts (CIS-107) or higher - ePack as part of a 16-credit term OR Sophia Introduction to IT
Statistics - Sophia
College Algebra - Sophia
Anatomy and Physiology I with Lab - Straighterline
Anatomy and Physiology II with Lab - Straighterline
Chemistry I with Lab - Chemistry 111L from Study.com
Biology I - Biology 101L @ Study.com (unfortunately, the course without a lab does NOT come in as Biology I)

[borrs]

One option to avoid the residency waiver would be to do a 16-credit term at TESU. The Software Engineering course is actually recommended for this due to how little time (relatively speaking) it takes to complete. So, for your needs, the possible courses would look something like:

Cornerstone
Capstone
Software Engineering
CIS-107 ePack
Another easy 100/200-level ePack or course
PLA-100

This way, you would both get Software Engineering and you would avoid paying the residency waiver. Coming back for a second degree would also not require a residency waiver, then.

i think i can do that, thanks for the advice!

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It'd require more lab sciences, but you might also be interested in the BS in Health Services Technology. It would meet the arbitary preference for a BS while also being very likely to accept the maximum credit transfer from your MPH and avoiding calculus.

Degree requirements (can be fulfilled through general education or electives)

• Computer Concepts (CIS-107) or higher
  
• Statistics
  
• College Algebra
  
• Anatomy and Physiology I with Lab
  
• Anatomy and Physiology II with Lab
  
• Chemistry I with Lab
  
• Biology I
  

Area of study is 59 credits

• College Algebra
  
• Anatomy and Physiology I with Lab
  
• Anatomy and Physiology II with Lab
  
• 30 credits in professional health requirements
  
• 12 credits in professional electives
  
• Computer requirement
  
• APS-401 (capstone)
  

15 credits in free electives, which you can fill with computer science

okay, this does sound like a viable option, giving the low amount of credit that i need to obtain. Also, the subjects mentioned are doable for me .
especially if Biology and chemistry "with lab", gets carried over from Highschool, seeing that those involved significant  lab work back in highschool.

having said that, ironically, the BSBA is probably a  bit more relevant to Public Health,   than   BS in Health Services Technology.  Helath Serv. Tech.  is more clinical from what i can figure.
Think of Public Health, as running and managing projects(including the Management, finance, logistic and HR factors, etc)  but within the Health Sector. and mostly , nonprofit.  Hence a BSBA(CIS or Health Management), would be quite useful

I still think  your suggestion is just too good to pass. we are talking about 2-4 additional subjects.. that's it!

[bjcheung77]

It's a best guess right now, I still suggest to transfer in everything you currently have and use the "what if" option to see how close you are to your degree of choice and then another "what if" for possible programs you're more interested in... Your best bet also is to get the general education and requirements complete through alternative credit providers, ACE/NCCRS, such as Sophia.org/Study.com, etc. You may be closer to one degree than the other, but you may favor completing a different degree if it has just a couple or more courses extra. Otherwise, stick with the one you can finish easier/faster.

[borrs]

It's a best guess right now, I still suggest to transfer in everything you currently have and use the "what if" option to see how close you are to your degree of choice and then another "what if" for possible programs you're more interested in... Your best bet also is to get the general education and requirements complete through alternative credit providers, ACE/NCCRS, such as Sophia.org/Study.com, etc.  You may be closer to one degree than the other, but you may favor completing a different degree if it has just a couple or more courses extra.  Otherwise, stick with the one you can finish easier/faster.

yea, I think I'll try to knock down as many courses as possible from General Education, as soon as possible.

Does anybody know if the 12 Credits from ACTFL  will count as General Education(section C?) , or will it be electives? 


Section B is most problematic for me:

• Intro to sociology (i think this is fine)
  
• Ethics in Digital Age ( i know there is a course in Sophia, i hope it's short and sweet)
  
  
• Not sure what to take here, 
  

[carrythenothing]

It's a best guess right now, I still suggest to transfer in everything you currently have and use the "what if" option to see how close you are to your degree of choice and then another "what if" for possible programs you're more interested in... Your best bet also is to get the general education and requirements complete through alternative credit providers, ACE/NCCRS, such as Sophia.org/Study.com, etc.  You may be closer to one degree than the other, but you may favor completing a different degree if it has just a couple or more courses extra.  Otherwise, stick with the one you can finish easier/faster.

yea, I think I'll try to knock down as many courses as possible from General Education, as soon as possible.

Does anybody know if the 12 Credits from ACTFL  will count as General Education(section C?) , or will it be electives? 


Section B is most problematic for me:

• Intro to sociology (i think this is fine)
  
• Ethics in Digital Age ( i know there is a course in Sophia, i hope it's short and sweet)
  
  
• Not sure what to take here, 
  

https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...Leadership

For ACTFL: 9 of the credits should count toward part C (as humanities) but you'll still need 3 credits (1 class) each in social sciences and history.

[borrs]

https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...Leadership

For ACTFL: 9 of the credits should count toward part C (as humanities) but you'll still need 3 credits (1 class) each in social sciences and history.

got it. Thanks!

so for Part B:

• ACTFL: 9 credits
  
• either Macro/Micro economics (Sophia)
  
• HS103 - History-Turning Points in Modern History 15th Century to Present (online Degrees)  .. will pick another course, apparently online degrees is not available for international students living outside of the US