Any modifications or considerations to my plan at TESU?

[LevelUP]

Alright, it is possible to major in finance and CS. I currently have 21cr I’ll have to take at TESU which is not that 16 or 18 minimum. I’m having trouble finding credits to get rid of these classes:

ETH-220 Leading the Way: A Path Towards Ethical Leadership 
FIL-110 Exploring American Cinema
FIN-382 Risk Management 
FDR-440 Fundraising for Nonprofits

I believe that I would need to take these at a community college, Finnish school, etc. Though I’m not sure if I’m allowed to take like 12 or 6cr and then transfer them to TESU. Please advise me what I should do.

When looking at TESU's degree's on their site, they don't clearly say what is suggested and what is required. This creates a lot of confusion. 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...ba/finance

This is why we suggest enrolling in TESU so you can ask questions with TESU advising, though often here on the forum, we know more and have more accurate information than most advisors.

For the Finance AOS, you need to take these courses:
301: Corporate Finance Study.com
302: International Finance Study.com
303: Financial Institutions & Markets Study.com
304: Security Analysis & Portfolio Management Study.com
306: Small Business Finance
Then you can take either Davar or Saylor FIN-301 Introduction to Finance which won't overlap with Sophia LL Intro to Finance. 
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

I suggest making a spreadsheet of a degree plan for both degrees, then posting a link to the spreadsheet or uploading a PDF.

[Mccderm]

Alright, it is possible to major in finance and CS. I currently have 21cr I’ll have to take at TESU which is not that 16 or 18 minimum. I’m having trouble finding credits to get rid of these classes:

ETH-220 Leading the Way: A Path Towards Ethical Leadership 
FIL-110 Exploring American Cinema
FIN-382 Risk Management 
FDR-440 Fundraising for Nonprofits

I believe that I would need to take these at a community college, Finnish school, etc. Though I’m not sure if I’m allowed to take like 12 or 6cr and then transfer them to TESU. Please advise me what I should do.

When looking at TESU's degree's on their site, they don't clearly say what is suggested and what is required. This creates a lot of confusion. 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...ba/finance

This is why we suggest enrolling in TESU so you can ask questions with TESU advising, though often here on the forum, we know more and have more accurate information than most advisors.

For the Finance AOS, you need to take these courses:
301: Corporate Finance Study.com
302: International Finance Study.com
303: Financial Institutions & Markets Study.com
304: Security Analysis & Portfolio Management Study.com
306: Small Business Finance
Then you can take either Davar or Saylor FIN-301 Introduction to Finance which won't overlap with Sophia LL Intro to Finance. 
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

I suggest making a spreadsheet of a degree plan for both degrees, then posting a link to the spreadsheet or uploading a PDF.

I updated the spreadsheet and here is a few issues with it:

1. You’ll see there’s 94 ACEcr under finance, if I get rid of some ACE credits it’ll increase the amount of RA credits I’ll need to take at TESU as this is the main issue(too much RAcr at TESU)

2. I don’t know how I could bring enough of RAcr for 1 16cr term at TESU. Due to the 90ACE/30RAcr rule in each degree(2). It seems like I would have to do 2 terms of 16cr terms. Correct me if I’m wrong.

3. Too many credits (24cr if I tried to do 1 16cr term) to do In 1 term.

4. I used the GEs as one bc they overlap meaning I only need to take them once. I’m not sure if this will help me but for the finance GE I switch SOC-101 from a TECEP to a Sophia. In CS it was the other way around.

[rachel83az]

1. Any RA credit you earn will automatically be used FIRST, before ACE credit. So, for instance, you have Accounting 101 listed as an elective for Computer Science. But if you complete XAMK's Intro to Video Games Creation certificate (for example), that's 25 ECTS or around 12+ RA-equivalent US semester credits. IIRC, some of them will come in as AOS electives for Comp Sci. And all of them will go to the free electives section of your BSBA Finance. 

2. You can reuse credits. AOS credits can be used in the free electives of the other degree (and vice versa). The BSBA has 15 credits of free electives, which you can fill with FREE XAMK credits (pay only $200 to get the transcript evaluated). Some XAMK credits (such as their Finnish language courses) will work as Gen Eds. If you still find yourself short once you've transferred in your Finnish credits, you could do some Gen Eds like Algebra or American Government at ASU Universal Learner, TECEPs, or TEL Learning classes. For instance, take Introduction to Comparative Politics (POS-282-TE) TECEP instead of American Government. They fill the same requirements. 

3. See above.

4. As already stated, RA will always overwrite ACE credits. If you do the Sociology TECEP, it will be used instead of Sociology from Sophia or SDC or wherever. There is no sense doing both.

Final note, the Public Speaking TECEP is LL, not UL. Not that it matters much, because it wouldn't count toward your UL credit requirements anyway.

[dfrecore]

Alright, it is possible to major in finance and CS. I currently have 21cr I’ll have to take at TESU which is not that 16 or 18 minimum. I’m having trouble finding credits to get rid of these classes:

ETH-220 Leading the Way: A Path Towards Ethical Leadership 
FIL-110 Exploring American Cinema
FIN-382 Risk Management 
FDR-440 Fundraising for Nonprofits

I believe that I would need to take these at a community college, Finnish school, etc. Though I’m not sure if I’m allowed to take like 12 or 6cr and then transfer them to TESU. Please advise me what I should do.

When looking at TESU's degree's on their site, they don't clearly say what is suggested and what is required. This creates a lot of confusion. 
https://www.tesu.edu/business/undergradu...ba/finance

This is why we suggest enrolling in TESU so you can ask questions with TESU advising, though often here on the forum, we know more and have more accurate information than most advisors.

For the Finance AOS, you need to take these courses:
301: Corporate Finance Study.com
302: International Finance Study.com
303: Financial Institutions & Markets Study.com
304: Security Analysis & Portfolio Management Study.com
306: Small Business Finance
Then you can take either Davar or Saylor FIN-301 Introduction to Finance which won't overlap with Sophia LL Intro to Finance. 
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

I suggest making a spreadsheet of a degree plan for both degrees, then posting a link to the spreadsheet or uploading a PDF.

I updated the spreadsheet and here is a few issues with it:

1. You’ll see there’s 94 ACEcr under finance, if I get rid of some ACE credits it’ll increase the amount of RA credits I’ll need to take at TESU as this is the main issue(too much RAcr at TESU)

2. I don’t know how I could bring enough of RAcr for 1 16cr term at TESU. Due to the 90ACE/30RAcr rule in each degree(2). It seems like I would have to do 2 terms of 16cr terms. Correct me if I’m wrong.

3. Too many credits (24cr if I tried to do 1 16cr term) to do In 1 term.

4. I used the GEs as one bc they overlap meaning I only need to take them once. I’m not sure if this will help me but for the finance GE I switch SOC-101 from a TECEP to a Sophia. In CS it was the other way around.

Really, you have 3 separate spreadsheets, rather than 1 spreadsheet with 3 AoS's.  You should set it up as follows:

1) GE - making sure you have College Algebra as the required Quant Lit course
2) Business Core - making sure you have at least 1 UL course in addition to the Capstone
3) Business AoS - making sure you have 18cr, 12cr of which are UL
4) CompSci AoS - making sure you have 15cr of UL in addition to the Capstone
5) Math AoS - making sure you have Calc I (already covered in CS), 15cr of math (6cr of Stats and Business Analysis are both covered in Business core), and 9cr of NatSci (which will be fully covered by CS).
6) Don't plan in any free electives since you've more than covered that

[LevelUP]

I updated the spreadsheet and here is a few issues with it:

1. You’ll see there’s 94 ACEcr under finance, if I get rid of some ACE credits it’ll increase the amount of RA credits I’ll need to take at TESU as this is the main issue(too much RAcr at TESU)

2. I don’t know how I could bring enough of RAcr for 1 16cr term at TESU. Due to the 90ACE/30RAcr rule in each degree(2). It seems like I would have to do 2 terms of 16cr terms. Correct me if I’m wrong.

3. Too many credits (24cr if I tried to do 1 16cr term) to do In 1 term.

4. I used the GEs as one bc they overlap meaning I only need to take them once. I’m not sure if this will help me but for the finance GE I switch SOC-101 from a TECEP to a Sophia. In CS it was the other way around.

You have way too many RA/TECEP listed.

The total credits TECEP + TESU courses should be 30.  It looks like you have 45 total credits.

The associates in math, you're missing CMS learn, Discrete Math, Calculus.

Overall you are taking WAY too many extra courses you don't need. Clean up degree plans.

[Mccderm]

Goodness, no. You need exactly 0 of those specific classes. The "plans" on TESU's site are TERRIBLE. They imply requirements when there are none. Literally any ethics classes work, not just ETH-220. Please see the wiki for suggestions: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ts_Roadmap

I’m like dumbfounded bc I thought the curriculum TESU sets for each major is set in stone, there’s no changes you can make to those courses. Unless you transfer in RA credits. Though you are saying that the courses in the wiki, I can switch out the courses I mentioned as long as they are under the same category. Is this correct? 

Could I also use these courses to switch out the courses I mentioned too?
https://www.tesu.edu/academics/courses/j...Leadership

[rachel83az]

For most degrees, the only thing set in stone is having to take the capstone and cornerstone. Oh, and they're pretty strict about having to take English Comp I and II from SOMEWHERE. Other than that, they've very flexible. Two people with the same TESU degrees might have vastly different courses in those degrees. Public Speaking isn't even a requirement, you can take SDC's Presentation Skills in the Workplace instead. For most degrees, you can take literally any History class, not just US History, to meet the history requirement for the Gen Eds (the BA History is a different story, you don't have to worry about that).

[Mccderm]

I’m making progress thanks to everyone’s input on my plan. I had updated my plan. Before I upload the plans, I feel like there’s conflicting information about how many credits a double major can bring in. In order to get the residency fee waived. The question is as follows:

1. One who double majors do they have to honors the rule of 90 alt credits/ 30 RA credits (with 1 term of 16 at TESU in avoidance of residency fee) for each degree. Leaving in total 60 RA credits to be earned: 32 credits earned at TESU(half for each degree), 28 credits to be earned from TECEPs, etc(again half for each degree)

2. A double major can dishonor the 90 alt cr/30 RA credits by bringing in more than 90 alternate credits for one or each degree. And bring in 15 RA credits from elsewhere and 1 term of 16 credits at TESU.

[rachel83az]

Each degree requires 30 RA credits. These credits can, and should, be shared between degrees. It is possible to graduate with exactly 30 RA credits and 100+ alt credits, depending on your exact degrees. You do NOT need 60 RA credits for two degrees.

[Mccderm]

Each degree requires 30 RA credits. These credits can, and should, be shared between degrees. It is possible to graduate with exactly 30 RA credits and 100+ alt credits, depending on your exact degrees. You do NOT need 60 RA credits for two degrees.

Ok, it’s 30 RA credits for each degree (BACS & BSBA Finance). So for 1 degree I would bring in RA credits, leaving 16 credits to earn at TESU. Though there is another degree, so I would have to attend another term(2 in total) at TESU to complete the other 16 credits after I bring in other RA credits. Is this correct?