Any modifications or considerations to my plan at TESU?

[Mccderm]

Location: Pa, USA
Age: 20
Desired Degrees: Computer Science, ASNSM Math & Finance 
Budget/timeline: Cheapest as possible, >6months-1year
Current RA credits: None
Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS credits: None
Situation: I find myself switching from the traditional school system to this concept of testing out of classes. I’m putting together a plan to double major at TESU. I would like my plan to be review and if there's any changes could be made to make it cheaper, save time, things to consider, etc. Here is my plan as follows:

1. I would apply to TESU and as soon as I'm in the applicate status. I would pay $52 for medical terminology TECEP in order to be enrolled into TESU.

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

3. I would then transfer the study.com, CLEPs credits into TESU.

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

Though I do have a few questions about this:
1. when I enroll into TESU, do I like declare somehow what majors I'm completing?

2. Because I'm majoring in 2 majors (CS and Finance), for the GEs section and any classes that overlap the 2 degrees. I'll only need to take those classes 1 time and not twice, right? 

3. Is it realistic completing 5 exams at study.com per month?

4. where could I find how much It'll cost when I attend TESU for the rest of the credits?

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

Time and cost:
Sources: study.com and CLEP (maybe TECEPs).
Cost: CLEPs $1,260. study.com $2,490. Total $3,750 
Time: ACE, CLEPs, 11.5 months. Time for 33 RA credits ?.

Let me know if I should supply the spreadsheet and which is the best way to upload it.

[allvia]

TESU does not have a ASNSM in Finance (no associates in Finance), they do offer a ASBA (Associate in Science in Business Administration).  Both the ASNMA Math and the ASBA are capstone free, making them good 'free' add on associates to the bachelor you have planned (the BACS). TECEPs are RA but they do not count towards residency (unless active military). CLEPs can be free through Modern States (https://modernstates.org). Sophia would be much cheaper for Gen Eds than SDC (study.com) - I'd start with Sophia.  I would wait to apply until you have at least some credits to transfer in. If your plan is to use TECEPS towards RA then you can just take one you're planning to use vs the Medical Term (which is not needed, any TECEP or course gives you enrolled status).  I would recommend you create a spreadsheet of what you plan to take, including through who/what platform. The wiki has a great deal of information on planning a course path - to get you started here is the page for the Sophia/TESU transfer - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

[Mccderm]

TESU does not have a ASNSM in Finance(no associates in Finance), they do offer a ASBA (Associate in Science in Business Administration).  Both the ASNMA Math and the ASBA are capstone free, making them good 'free' add on associates to the bachelor you have planned (the BACS). TECEPs are RA but they do not count towards residency (unless active military). CLEPs can be free through Modern States (https://modernstates.org). Sophia would be much cheaper for Gen Eds than SDC (study.com) - I'd start with Sophia.  I would wait to apply until you have at least some credits to transfer in. If your plan is to use TECEPS towards RA then you can just take one you're planning to use vs the Medical Term (which is not needed, any TECEP or course gives you enrolled status).  I would recommend you create a spreadsheet of what you plan to take, including through who/what platform. The wiki has a great deal of information on planning a course path - to get you started here is the page for the Sophia/TESU transfer - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

Thank you for the feed back, I highly appreciate it. 

"TESU does not have a ASNSM in Finance"

Yes they do not have that. I planned on taking ASNSM in Math.

"TECEPs are RA but they do not count towards residency (unless active military)."

I see from the wiki about TESU residency, that "Students who do not take at least 16 of their required 30 RA credits with TESU are subject to paying a residency waiver fee ($3192 as of June 2021)." https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Th...University. I have about 33 credits after I complete ACE and CLEPs credits remaining from finance and CS. Are you saying that if I complete a TECEP, it wont count/lower towards the remaining (33) credits needed to graduate? Also bc of the amount of credits remaining, would that waiver the residency fee? Lastly since the cost of TECEP is based on level and the per credit attemted, would i have to multiply the price by 3? Due to TESU credit per class is 3?

[dfrecore]

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

I'm a bit confused, probably because you seem confused.  So I will try to answer what I think you're asking.

You need 30cr of RA total (not 33), and they do NOT need to be done through TESU.  Only the Cornerstone and Capstone (6cr total) need to be done there, leaving 24cr of RA to be done from wherever you want (local CC, cheap online school like Dine' College, TECEP exams, etc.).

You do not need to do these things in any specific order - the capstone will most likely be the very last thing you do, but other than that, you can do it however you'd like.

We only recommend LL TECEP exams if that's what you want, as they are $52/cr ($156/exam) - it's cheaper to do UL courses through other ACE/NCCRS providers (Study.com, Davar, Coopersmith, Saylor).  UL TECEP's are $77/cr ($231/course).

You need to decide if you want to do the Per-Credit Tuition plan, where you would pay $6,796 for 6cr there and bring in the remaining 114cr from elsewhere; or if you want to do the Full-Time/Flat-Rate Tuition plan (FT/FR), where you'd do a single 16cr term at TESU which would include the cornerstone, capstone, a 1cr course, and 3 additional courses of your choice - for $4,778, plus the $298 for graduation.  For someone with zero RA credits, this is the path I would recommend.  You'd still need 14cr of RA, but it gets rid of that residency waiver.  There's a page on the wiki showing how to go about doing the FT/FR term to make things as easy as possible.

[Mccderm]

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

I'm a bit confused, probably because you seem confused.  So I will try to answer what I think you're asking.

You need 30cr of RA total (not 33), and they do NOT need to be done through TESU.  Only the Cornerstone and Capstone (6cr total) need to be done there, leaving 24cr of RA to be done from wherever you want (local CC, cheap online school like Dine' College, TECEP exams, etc.).

You do not need to do these things in any specific order - the capstone will most likely be the very last thing you do, but other than that, you can do it however you'd like.

We only recommend LL TECEP exams if that's what you want, as they are $52/cr ($156/exam) - it's cheaper to do UL courses through other ACE/NCCRS providers (Study.com, Davar, Coopersmith, Saylor).  UL TECEP's are $77/cr ($231/course).

You need to decide if you want to do the Per-Credit Tuition plan, where you would pay $6,796 for 6cr there and bring in the remaining 114cr from elsewhere; or if you want to do the Full-Time/Flat-Rate Tuition plan (FT/FR), where you'd do a single 16cr term at TESU which would include the cornerstone, capstone, a 1cr course, and 3 additional courses of your choice - for $4,778, plus the $298 for graduation.  For someone with zero RA credits, this is the path I would recommend.  You'd still need 14cr of RA, but it gets rid of that residency waiver.  There's a page on the wiki showing how to go about doing the FT/FR term to make things as easy as possible.

"I'm a bit confused, probably because you seem confused.  So I will try to answer what I think you're asking."

Yes I'm a bit confused aswell and asking questions to clarify the confusion. I appreciate your effort.

"You need 30cr of RA total (not 33),"

First, the 33 credits came from the 2 majors I plan on majoring in. That no ACE or CLEP credits would full fill. 

"Only the Cornerstone and Capstone (6cr total) need to be done there, leaving 24cr of RA to be done from wherever you want (local CC, cheap online school like Dine' College, TECEP exams, etc.)."

Oh, now I see how my thinking is wrong. I highly appreciate the clarification.

"We only recommend LL TECEP exams if that's what you want, as they are $52/cr ($156/exam)"

Now I see the cost is per credit. 

 I'm glad to see the tuition plan presented here bc i was confused about that. I agree that the FT/FR is the better option. though I do have a question.

"where you'd do a single 16cr term at TESU which would include the cornerstone, capstone, a 1cr course, and 3 additional courses of your choice - for $4,778, plus the $298 for graduation."

Since the FT/FR way would include the things you described. Would that mean I would just leave that amount of credits that need to be full filled by the curriculum? Would the 3 addition courses of my choice would be within the curriculum of that major? Would I have to do this twice for each major due to double majoring?

"You'd still need 14cr of RA, but it gets rid of that residency waiver."

Would those 14 RA credits be earned from outside of TESU or within to get the fee waived?

[rachel83az]

In order to waive the fee, you need to take 16 or more credits at TESU. TECEPs do not count (unless you have military rates, then there'd be other new rules, too). After those 16 TESU credits, you are allowed to bring in the remaining 14+ RA credits from anywhere. As long as you have taken at least 16 TESU credits, there will be no residency waiver fee.

[Mccderm]

In order to waive the fee, you need to take 16 or more credits at TESU. TECEPs do not count (unless you have military rates, then there'd be other new rules, too). After those 16 TESU credits, you are allowed to bring in the remaining 14+ RA credits from anywhere. As long as you have taken at least 16 TESU credits, there will be no residency waiver fee.

Now I understand the waiver fee. Could I do it in reverse order(14 RA credits from elsewhere, then 16 credits from TESU to get fee waiver)? How would a double major affect this in terms of credits the 16 credits to get fee waiver and bring in? Would I just double the credits?

[allvia]

"TECEPs are RA but they do not count towards residency (unless active military)."
I see from the wiki about TESU residency, that "Students who do not take at least 16 of their required 30 RA credits with TESU are subject to paying a residency waiver fee ($3192 as of June 2021)." https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Th...University. I have about 33 credits after I complete ACE and CLEPs credits remaining from finance and CS. Are you saying that if I complete a TECEP, it wont count/lower towards the remaining (33) credits needed to graduate? Also bc of the amount of credits remaining, would that waiver the residency fee? Lastly since the cost of TECEP is based on level and the per credit attemted, would i have to multiply the price by 3? Due to TESU credit per class is 3?

TECEPs count towards required RA credits, they do not count towards 16 residency TESU credits (courses taken at TESU).  You're not require to complete 16 TESU credits, but if you don't then you pay the residency waiver. Keep in mind you will have to take at least two course (6 RA credits) at TESU - the cornerstone and capstone course; which is why here you will often see people reference a need to earn 24 RA credits for TESU (24 + the 6 at TESU = 30 total RA).  And yes, TECEPs cost per credit it is worth, not per TECEP.

[dfrecore]

"You need 30cr of RA total (not 33),"

First, the 33 credits came from the 2 majors I plan on majoring in. That no ACE or CLEP credits would full fill. 

The BACS degree can be done entirely with alt-credit, as can the ASNSM Math and ASBA degrees.

[spohara]

Location: Pa, USA
Age: 20
Desired Degrees: Computer Science, ASNSM Math & Finance 
Budget/timeline: Cheapest as possible, >6months-1year
Current RA credits: None
Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS credits: None
Situation: I find myself switching from the traditional school system to this concept of testing out of classes. I’m putting together a plan to double major at TESU. I would like my plan to be review and if there's any changes could be made to make it cheaper, save time, things to consider, etc. Here is my plan as follows:

1. I would apply to TESU and as soon as I'm in the applicate status. I would pay $52 for medical terminology TECEP in order to be enrolled into TESU.

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

3. I would then transfer the study.com, CLEPs credits into TESU.

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

Though I do have a few questions about this:
1. when I enroll into TESU, do I like declare somehow what majors I'm completing?

2. Because I'm majoring in 2 majors (CS and Finance), for the GEs section and any classes that overlap the 2 degrees. I'll only need to take those classes 1 time and not twice, right? 

3. Is it realistic completing 5 exams at study.com per month?

4. where could I find how much It'll cost when I attend TESU for the rest of the credits?

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

Time and cost:
Sources: study.com and CLEP (maybe TECEPs).
Cost: CLEPs $1,260. study.com $2,490. Total $3,750 
Time: ACE, CLEPs, 11.5 months. Time for 33 RA credits ?.

Let me know if I should supply the spreadsheet and which is the best way to upload it.

To go to your original questions:
1. Yes you apply for a specific major (others can better answer details on declaring 2 majors, I don't remember seeing that on the application and may require other steps)
2. You do the gen-eds once, not twice.  There is some amount of credits that must be unique between the two degrees I believe, but to some extent area-of-study courses for one major can be electives for the other and courses required for both can be taken one time and apply to both degrees.  Others can clarify better.
3. 100% doable if you're dedicating full time effort to this
4. TESU website under tuition 
5. Others seem to have covered this one pretty well