Any modifications or considerations to my plan at TESU?

[rachel83az]

1. I would apply to TESU and as soon as I'm in the applicate status. I would pay $52 for medical terminology TECEP in order to be enrolled into TESU.

A good idea. This allows you to transfer in credits continually in order to confirm where they go and how close you are to your goals. If it takes you longer than 12 months to finish, you'll need to pay for the TECEP again.

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

As already stated, you don't need 30+ credits directly from TESU. If you don't want to pay the residency waiver, about half can come from other sources. You can generally earn these credits in any order, with the major exception being the capstone(s). Capstones are usually only allowed after TESU sees that you've completed 100+ credits from all sources.

3. I would then transfer the study.com, CLEPs credits into TESU.

As long as you are enrolled at TESU, you may transfer the credits in as you earn them. Generally, it's a good idea to do this once a month or so.

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

Last 16, but yes.

Though I do have a few questions about this:
1. when I enroll into TESU, do I like declare somehow what majors I'm completing?

You enroll for one, then you have to email an advisor to ADD any additional degree(s) to your plan. Unfortunately, they will sometimes CHANGE your degree, instead of adding, so you have to email them again to get the first degree re-added. For new students, it's no big deal. But it can still be annoying to deal with.

2. Because I'm majoring in 2 majors (CS and Finance), for the GEs section and any classes that overlap the 2 degrees. I'll only need to take those classes 1 time and not twice, right? 

Yes, overlapping GE classes only need to be taken once. You do not need to take them multiple times for multiple degrees.

3. Is it realistic completing 5 exams at study.com per month?

Maybe. It depends on the classes. For UL classes, you're probably looking at only being able to complete 2-3 per month. UL classes have assignments that must be completed.

4. where could I find how much It'll cost when I attend TESU for the rest of the credits?

For the 16 TESU credits to avoid the residency waiver fee, it depends on whether you want to do a flat-rate term or not. Flat-rate tuition (9 to 16 credits per term) is here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/flat-rate-tuition Per credit rates  (1 to 8 credits per term) are here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/per-credit

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

Yes. Same with any TESU classes.

A slightly more confusing, though cheaper, option for "RA credits" for TESU would be to earn free/low-cost ECTS from a Finnish university, have them evaluated by ACEI, and then transfer them to TESU. Instead of paying $156 for 3 LL credits or $231 for 3 UL credits, you'd pay about $200 for the evaluation of all the free credits you're able to earn. These would mostly wind up as electives, though there are some classes that should go elsewhere. 

But, if you'd prefer TECEPs, that's totally fine and up to you.

Time and cost:
Sources: study.com and CLEP (maybe TECEPs).
Cost: CLEPs $1,260. study.com $2,490. Total $3,750 
Time: ACE, CLEPs, 11.5 months. Time for 33 RA credits ?.

Sophia is much cheaper & faster than SDC for most Gen Eds. Once you take into account scheduling, potential time off work, etc., Sophia can even be cheaper than "free" CLEP exams. Most students are able to complete 60+ Sophia credits in 2-3 months for a total cost of $200-300.

If you do choose to do CLEPs, though, definitely use ModernStates, as already mentioned.

Let me know if I should supply the spreadsheet and which is the best way to upload it.

Yes, please share your updated spreadsheet so that we can see if there are any other areas that need tweaking.

[Mccderm]

1. I would apply to TESU and as soon as I'm in the applicate status. I would pay $52 for medical terminology TECEP in order to be enrolled into TESU.

A good idea. This allows you to transfer in credits continually in order to confirm where they go and how close you are to your goals. If it takes you longer than 12 months to finish, you'll need to pay for the TECEP again.

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

As already stated, you don't need 30+ credits directly from TESU. If you don't want to pay the residency waiver, about half can come from other sources. You can generally earn these credits in any order, with the major exception being the capstone(s). Capstones are usually only allowed after TESU sees that you've completed 100+ credits from all sources.

3. I would then transfer the study.com, CLEPs credits into TESU.

As long as you are enrolled at TESU, you may transfer the credits in as you earn them. Generally, it's a good idea to do this once a month or so.

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

Last 16, but yes.

Though I do have a few questions about this:
1. when I enroll into TESU, do I like declare somehow what majors I'm completing?

You enroll for one, then you have to email an advisor to ADD any additional degree(s) to your plan. Unfortunately, they will sometimes CHANGE your degree, instead of adding, so you have to email them again to get the first degree re-added. For new students, it's no big deal. But it can still be annoying to deal with.

2. Because I'm majoring in 2 majors (CS and Finance), for the GEs section and any classes that overlap the 2 degrees. I'll only need to take those classes 1 time and not twice, right? 

Yes, overlapping GE classes only need to be taken once. You do not need to take them multiple times for multiple degrees.

3. Is it realistic completing 5 exams at study.com per month?

Maybe. It depends on the classes. For UL classes, you're probably looking at only being able to complete 2-3 per month. UL classes have assignments that must be completed.

4. where could I find how much It'll cost when I attend TESU for the rest of the credits?

For the 16 TESU credits to avoid the residency waiver fee, it depends on whether you want to do a flat-rate term or not. Flat-rate tuition (9 to 16 credits per term) is here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/flat-rate-tuition Per credit rates  (1 to 8 credits per term) are here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/per-credit

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

Yes. Same with any TESU classes.

A slightly more confusing, though cheaper, option for "RA credits" for TESU would be to earn free/low-cost ECTS from a Finnish university, have them evaluated by ACEI, and then transfer them to TESU. Instead of paying $156 for 3 LL credits or $231 for 3 UL credits, you'd pay about $200 for the evaluation of all the free credits you're able to earn. These would mostly wind up as electives, though there are some classes that should go elsewhere. 

But, if you'd prefer TECEPs, that's totally fine and up to you.

Time and cost:
Sources: study.com and CLEP (maybe TECEPs).
Cost: CLEPs $1,260. study.com $2,490. Total $3,750 
Time: ACE, CLEPs, 11.5 months. Time for 33 RA credits ?.

Sophia is much cheaper & faster than SDC for most Gen Eds. Once you take into account scheduling, potential time off work, etc., Sophia can even be cheaper than "free" CLEP exams. Most students are able to complete 60+ Sophia credits in 2-3 months for a total cost of $200-300.

If you do choose to do CLEPs, though, definitely use ModernStates, as already mentioned.

Let me know if I should supply the spreadsheet and which is the best way to upload it.

Yes, please share your updated spreadsheet so that we can see if there are any other areas that need tweaking.

Thank you for answering my questions. About starting my spreadsheet, which is the best file type to share? I used google sheets.

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1. I would apply to TESU and as soon as I'm in the applicate status. I would pay $52 for medical terminology TECEP in order to be enrolled into TESU.

A good idea. This allows you to transfer in credits continually in order to confirm where they go and how close you are to your goals. If it takes you longer than 12 months to finish, you'll need to pay for the TECEP again.

2. I would then take action earning credits from CLEPs, ACE (study.com) and then TECEPs to earn RA credits. Leaving me with 33 RA credits to be earned at TESU. Over the 16 credit limit to get the residency fee wavered. in total it'll take about a year to earn these credits. 

As already stated, you don't need 30+ credits directly from TESU. If you don't want to pay the residency waiver, about half can come from other sources. You can generally earn these credits in any order, with the major exception being the capstone(s). Capstones are usually only allowed after TESU sees that you've completed 100+ credits from all sources.

3. I would then transfer the study.com, CLEPs credits into TESU.

As long as you are enrolled at TESU, you may transfer the credits in as you earn them. Generally, it's a good idea to do this once a month or so.

4. Attend TESU to earn the last 33 RA credits at TESU. Then graduate. 

Last 16, but yes.

Though I do have a few questions about this:
1. when I enroll into TESU, do I like declare somehow what majors I'm completing?

You enroll for one, then you have to email an advisor to ADD any additional degree(s) to your plan. Unfortunately, they will sometimes CHANGE your degree, instead of adding, so you have to email them again to get the first degree re-added. For new students, it's no big deal. But it can still be annoying to deal with.

2. Because I'm majoring in 2 majors (CS and Finance), for the GEs section and any classes that overlap the 2 degrees. I'll only need to take those classes 1 time and not twice, right? 

Yes, overlapping GE classes only need to be taken once. You do not need to take them multiple times for multiple degrees.

3. Is it realistic completing 5 exams at study.com per month?

Maybe. It depends on the classes. For UL classes, you're probably looking at only being able to complete 2-3 per month. UL classes have assignments that must be completed.

4. where could I find how much It'll cost when I attend TESU for the rest of the credits?

For the 16 TESU credits to avoid the residency waiver fee, it depends on whether you want to do a flat-rate term or not. Flat-rate tuition (9 to 16 credits per term) is here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/flat-rate-tuition Per credit rates  (1 to 8 credits per term) are here: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/per-credit

5. For the TECEPs I see on their site that for classes levels 100-200 it’s $52, and $77 for classes 300-400 class levels. The question arises from it saying "Per credit attempted". Does that mean if I want to earn RA credits towards TESU, I'll have to multiply the price by 3? Because of the credits of classes is 3 credits.

Yes. Same with any TESU classes.

A slightly more confusing, though cheaper, option for "RA credits" for TESU would be to earn free/low-cost ECTS from a Finnish university, have them evaluated by ACEI, and then transfer them to TESU. Instead of paying $156 for 3 LL credits or $231 for 3 UL credits, you'd pay about $200 for the evaluation of all the free credits you're able to earn. These would mostly wind up as electives, though there are some classes that should go elsewhere. 

But, if you'd prefer TECEPs, that's totally fine and up to you.

Time and cost:
Sources: study.com and CLEP (maybe TECEPs).
Cost: CLEPs $1,260. study.com $2,490. Total $3,750 
Time: ACE, CLEPs, 11.5 months. Time for 33 RA credits ?.

Sophia is much cheaper & faster than SDC for most Gen Eds. Once you take into account scheduling, potential time off work, etc., Sophia can even be cheaper than "free" CLEP exams. Most students are able to complete 60+ Sophia credits in 2-3 months for a total cost of $200-300.

If you do choose to do CLEPs, though, definitely use ModernStates, as already mentioned.

Let me know if I should supply the spreadsheet and which is the best way to upload it.

Yes, please share your updated spreadsheet so that we can see if there are any other areas that need tweaking.

Thank you for answering my questions. About starting my spreadsheet, which is the best file type to share? I used google sheets.

[rachel83az]

Google sheets works. You can just share a link to your spreadsheet. You should be able to make it so "anyone who has this link can view, but not edit" when generating the link.

[Mccderm]

Google sheets works. You can just share a link to your spreadsheet. You should be able to make it so "anyone who has this link can view, but not edit" when generating the link.

Here is the spreadsheet.

[allvia]

CLEPs can be done for free through Modern States - https://modernstates.org. Many of your SDC courses could be completed much cheaper through Sophia; actually Sophia offers many of the CLEP topics as well. SDC is good for things not found elsewhere, and a great resource for UL credit courses. Here is the Wiki page for the Sophia Equivalency List - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

[Mccderm]

CLEPs can be done for free through Modern States - https://modernstates.org. Many of your SDC courses could be completed much cheaper through Sophia; actually Sophia offers many of the CLEP topics as well. SDC is good for things not found elsewhere, and a great resource for UL credit courses. Here is the Wiki page for the Sophia Equivalency List - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

Thank you for the advice and I'll make changes to the plan. Though about the CLEPs though Modern States, I'm not sure how it could be free. I know that the course is free but there is an fee which you would have to pay being $95. Please advise me if I'm wrong.

[allvia]

CLEPs can be done for free through Modern States - https://modernstates.org. Many of your SDC courses could be completed much cheaper through Sophia; actually Sophia offers many of the CLEP topics as well. SDC is good for things not found elsewhere, and a great resource for UL credit courses. Here is the Wiki page for the Sophia Equivalency List - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

Thank you for the advice and I'll make changes to the plan. Though about the CLEPs though Modern States, I'm not sure how it could be free. I know that the course is free but there is an fee which you would have to pay being $95. Please advise me if I'm wrong.

Once you complete the prep course you request a voucher to cover the exam, it is my understanding there is a way to get them to reimburse any site fees that you may have as well - https://modernstates.org/freshman-year-free/

[Mccderm]

CLEPs can be done for free through Modern States - https://modernstates.org. Many of your SDC courses could be completed much cheaper through Sophia; actually Sophia offers many of the CLEP topics as well. SDC is good for things not found elsewhere, and a great resource for UL credit courses. Here is the Wiki page for the Sophia Equivalency List - https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

Thank you for the advice and I'll make changes to the plan. Though about the CLEPs though Modern States, I'm not sure how it could be free. I know that the course is free but there is an fee which you would have to pay being $95. Please advise me if I'm wrong.

Once you complete the prep course you request a voucher to cover the exam, it is my understanding there is a way to get them to reimburse any site fees that you may have as well - https://modernstates.org/freshman-year-free/

I see, thank you. A question I do have about Sophia. On the wiki it says "Sophia charges $79 per month and there is no built-in limit to the number of courses you can complete that period. But you can only have two courses active at one time.". Does that statement mean I can complete unlimited amount of courses(complete meaning finish course and earn credit) but can only work on 2 different courses at the same time?

[dfrecore]

I see, thank you. A question I do have about Sophia. On the wiki it says "Sophia charges $79 per month and there is no built-in limit to the number of courses you can complete that period. But you can only have two courses active at one time.". Does that statement mean I can complete unlimited amount of courses(complete meaning finish course and earn credit) but can only work on 2 different courses at the same time?

The price is now $99/mo, plus there are additional prices for longer terms.

And yes, you can only have 2 courses open at once - but as fast as you can complete them, you can open more and the number of credits you can earn each month is unlimited.

It's advised that you only have 1 course with a greater amount of milestones (written assignments) at once, and the other course should be something without milestones if possible, so that if you're waiting for a milestone to be graded on 1 course, you can continue working on the other course.

[rachel83az]

I see, thank you. A question I do have about Sophia. On the wiki it says "Sophia charges $79 per month and there is no built-in limit to the number of courses you can complete that period. But you can only have two courses active at one time.". Does that statement mean I can complete unlimited amount of courses(complete meaning finish course and earn credit) but can only work on 2 different courses at the same time?

Thanks for pointing out the price; that line has been fixed on the wiki now.

And, yes, you can theoretically earn unlimited credits every month at Sophia. Your only limits are what they have available and how fast you can go through them. Courses with multiple Touchstones (graded assignments) can take several weeks apiece to finish, so it's a good idea to only have one such course open at a time. You can see which courses have Touchstones, and how many, here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

In theory, Sophia will allow you to have more than 2 classes open at a time, if the only thing you're waiting for is a Touchstone to be graded, but you have to contact support and have them manually add a 3rd or 4th class for you. But this is a fiddly and unreliable process because this kind of support is only available on weekdays during business hours.