Amberton University

[carrythenothing]

It's often cheaper and easier to find/earn graduate-level credits through professional development courses for teachers, which includes VESi and others: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...ses.60067/

FHSU Online is also only $298.55/credit and offers a lot of non-degree courses: https://www.fhsu.edu/academic/gradschl/tuition/

Amberton's tuition is only $285 per credit so it wouldn't make sense to spend more on courses at FHSU to transfer them to Amberton. I didn't do any of the VESI courses because they seemed like a lot of writing and I didn't find them to be all that cheap. The Prof Dev degree at Amberton isn't for teachers. I mean it's cool that they'll accept some credits from VESI but I didn't find them to be interesting to me as I'm not interested in teaching. Amberton's tuition is also really cheap for grad school and I wanted all the business courses I could get. VESI classes won't help lots of people with their careers.

The post I was replying to referenced a thread with VESi courses and asked "Seems they’re all teacher related or is there a place I’m missing that has more choices in it?"

[suzycupcake]

And I can also earn a certificate while taking it too. I think this conversation is sealing the deal for me!!!  I’ve already been accepted So it’s a matter of when to start!

Yes - you can earn a certificate, or or more, as part of the MA Professional Development degree. I will end up with at least one of their graduate certificates.

If you want to transfer some cheap grad credits in to expedite the degree see this thread, as it is still relevant - https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-graduated

And I can also earn a certificate while taking it too. I think this conversation is sealing the deal for me!!!  I’ve already been accepted So it’s a matter of when to start!

Yes you can complete certificates as well. There are no additional fees for the certificates either. You can complete multiple certificates as well.

Ok guys - I'm in too!!!  Just signed up for the MS in Human Relations and Business. My first 2 courses start in the summer semester (I did the 2 required courses first) and looking at trying for 2 certificates if I can because why not ...

Have you guys taken those yet? Any thoughts to share?

[allvia]

Ok guys - I'm in too!!!  Just signed up for the MS in Human Relations and Business. My first 2 courses start in the summer semester (I did the 2 required courses first) and looking at trying for 2 certificates if I can because why not ...

Have you guys taken those yet? Any thoughts to share?

Congratulations. The MS in Human Relations and Business is a very flexible business degree.

I took the Christian Ethics (RGS6036) version with Jerry Van Hamme. I choose it for the simple reason that I was able to get my hands on a 2nd hand copy of the textbook for $10 (at the time); you did need it for some reference work (exams).  I enjoyed the course far more than I would have expected, and learned more than expected as well. His lectures were very well done - thought provoking.  It is more a course of how Christianity has impacted the laws (worldwide, and current) than a course on Christianity - and discuses how some (people) will bend the original Christian text (bible) to their own version to make it fit their personal agenda (things get taken out of context). In summary, it is not a preaching of Christianity course - that the textbook title might lead you to believe.

There are different versions of the Theory and Application of Research Methods (RGS6035) as well, based on weight of exams/paper(s) or just written paper(s). I had to drop this course a few times due to pandemic related work demands, but ended up completing it with Dr. Jonathan Schultz - who offered the exam/paper blended version.  It was the right choice for me.

[suzycupcake]

Ok guys - I'm in too!!!  Just signed up for the MS in Human Relations and Business. My first 2 courses start in the summer semester (I did the 2 required courses first) and looking at trying for 2 certificates if I can because why not ...

Have you guys taken those yet? Any thoughts to share?

Congratulations. The MS in Human Relations and Business is a very flexible business degree.

I took the Christian Ethics (RGS6036) version with Jerry Van Hamme. I choose it for the simple reason that I was able to get my hands on a 2nd hand copy of the textbook for $10 (at the time); you did need it for some reference work (exams).  I enjoyed the course far more than I would have expected, and learned more than expected as well. His lectures were very well done - thought provoking.  It is more a course of how Christianity has impacted the laws (worldwide, and current) than a course on Christianity - and discuses how some (people) will bend the original Christian text (bible) to their own version to make it fit their personal agenda (things get taken out of context). In summary, it is not a preaching of Christianity course - that the textbook title might lead you to believe.

There are different versions of the Theory and Application of Research Methods (RGS6035) as well, based on weight of exams/paper(s) or just written paper(s). I had to drop this course a few times due to pandemic related work demands, but ended up completing it with Dr. Jonathan Schultz - who offered the exam/paper blended version.  It was the right choice for me.

Thank you for the insightful response on the Ethics course. I’m taking it with Jerry van Hamme also so this is perfect!  Where do you get your books? I’m someone who likes real books so I was going to grab it also and it’s not at my library. 

When ss20ts said he really like the informational session, I hopped on the next one they had and I remember him saying the library people were really great so I hopped into that breakout room and Dr Joe Pendleton was in there. He was very enthusiastic and we had a great convo so I chose him for my Theory and Application course. Did you happen to have him in one of your efforts to take the class?

Thanks again for your response!

[allvia]

I took the Christian Ethics (RGS6036) version with Jerry Van Hamme. I choose it for the simple reason that I was able to get my hands on a 2nd hand copy of the textbook for $10 (at the time); you did need it for some reference work (exams).  I enjoyed the course far more than I would have expected, and learned more than expected as well. His lectures were very well done - thought provoking.  It is more a course of how Christianity has impacted the laws (worldwide, and current) than a course on Christianity - and discuses how some (people) will bend the original Christian text (bible) to their own version to make it fit their personal agenda (things get taken out of context). In summary, it is not a preaching of Christianity course - that the textbook title might lead you to believe.

There are different versions of the Theory and Application of Research Methods (RGS6035) as well, based on weight of exams/paper(s) or just written paper(s). I had to drop this course a few times due to pandemic related work demands, but ended up completing it with Dr. Jonathan Schultz - who offered the exam/paper blended version.  It was the right choice for me.

Thank you for the insightful response on the Ethics course. I’m taking it with Jerry van Hamme also so this is perfect!  Where do you get your books? I’m someone who likes real books so I was going to grab it also and it’s not at my library. 

When ss20ts said he really like the informational session, I hopped on the next one they had and I remember him saying the library people were really great so I hopped into that breakout room and Dr Joe Pendleton was in there. He was very enthusiastic and we had a great convo so I chose him for my Theory and Application course. Did you happen to have him in one of your efforts to take the class?

Thanks again for your response!

I believe I got it off ebay - it was more than a year ago now.  I would also recommend looking on Amazon (under the 'more buying choices' for used) and AbeBooks (I have had very good luck with that site for textbooks).  For textbook rentals I tend to stick with Amazon, however for this course the textbook was too old to be available as a rental. I either buy or rent based on what will cost me less - sometimes its a surprise that buying 2nd hand is cheaper than renting (when available). For business courses always get the edition that the professor states. I got caught myself with an older edition, which didn't have the case study I needed (only found in the edition stated on the syllabus) - in truth, this is probably wise for any subject.

Dr Joe Pendleton was not one of the professors I had enrolled with (for any course, as of yet).

[suzycupcake]

Thank you! Haven’t heard of Abebooks so I’ll look that one up!

[ss20ts]

Ok guys - I'm in too!!!  Just signed up for the MS in Human Relations and Business. My first 2 courses start in the summer semester (I did the 2 required courses first) and looking at trying for 2 certificates if I can because why not ...

Have you guys taken those yet? Any thoughts to share?

I'm not sure what the required first 2 courses are. The RGS courses? The research one I transferred in. The ethics one I'm in right now. I have the non-religious version. It's been very interesting and thought provoking. Lots of writing but it's grad school so that should be expected. There was only 1 book we needed. I got mine on Amazon for under $10. It's used but I didn't care. I've referenced it like twice. All of the reading has been giving to us in the course. 

I am taking 2 other courses right now as well. I purchased all of my books through Amazon. A couple I bought the paperback version of because of what they are and I thought I would keep them in my office as reference material. The others I purchased the Kindle version. Whenever I can get a Kindle version of a book I get it. I prefer reading on my phone over anything else. I bring my phone everywhere so I can get in some reading while I am waiting at appointments or whatever. I can also read on my iPad and MacBook since book have the Kindle app. It's cool on my MacBook because I can search. I may be able to search on my iPad. Can't on my iPhone though. 


I have 1 HRT and 2 management courses for the summer session. All the same professor. I had this professor this session and really liked them which is a good thing since they teach several classes I'm interested in. They're even teaching one of my degree requirements this summer. I was super happy to see that. Reading the past syllabus for the courses gives you an idea of the workload and if you really want that professor. There are a couple of classes I was interested in until I read the syllabus. Then I was like NOPE NOPE NOPE. One has multiple videos you have to make of yourself. Not happening. Then you have to share them on YouTube. Hard no for me. So I am super grateful that we can see the syllabus when registering for classes. I put off 1 class because the textbook is $125. I'm hoping in the fall someone else teaches it with a cheaper book. It's a brand new edition so maybe there will be used books available by then at the very least.

[suzycupcake]

Ok guys - I'm in too!!!  Just signed up for the MS in Human Relations and Business. My first 2 courses start in the summer semester (I did the 2 required courses first) and looking at trying for 2 certificates if I can because why not ...

Have you guys taken those yet? Any thoughts to share?

I'm not sure what the required first 2 courses are. The RGS courses? The research one I transferred in. The ethics one I'm in right now. I have the non-religious version. It's been very interesting and thought provoking. Lots of writing but it's grad school so that should be expected. There was only 1 book we needed. I got mine on Amazon for under $10. It's used but I didn't care. I've referenced it like twice. All of the reading has been giving to us in the course. 

I am taking 2 other courses right now as well. I purchased all of my books through Amazon. A couple I bought the paperback version of because of what they are and I thought I would keep them in my office as reference material. The others I purchased the Kindle version. Whenever I can get a Kindle version of a book I get it. I prefer reading on my phone over anything else. I bring my phone everywhere so I can get in some reading while I am waiting at appointments or whatever. I can also read on my iPad and MacBook since book have the Kindle app. It's cool on my MacBook because I can search. I may be able to search on my iPad. Can't on my iPhone though. 


I have 1 HRT and 2 management courses for the summer session. All the same professor. I had this professor this session and really liked them which is a good thing since they teach several classes I'm interested in. They're even teaching one of my degree requirements this summer. I was super happy to see that. Reading the past syllabus for the courses gives you an idea of the workload and if you really want that professor. There are a couple of classes I was interested in until I read the syllabus. Then I was like NOPE NOPE NOPE. One has multiple videos you have to make of yourself. Not happening. Then you have to share them on YouTube. Hard no for me. So I am super grateful that we can see the syllabus when registering for classes. I put off 1 class because the textbook is $125. I'm hoping in the fall someone else teaches it with a cheaper book. It's a brand new edition so maybe there will be used books available by then at the very least.

Yes, I'm sorry - they are the first 2 courses, the research one and the ethics one. Do you mind if I ask who is the professor you like? If I have an opportunity to take a class with them, I may just do that.

The syllabus viewing prior to enrollment is the best thing about this! Are you doing school FT?

[ss20ts]

Thank you for the insightful response on the Ethics course. I’m taking it with Jerry van Hamme also so this is perfect!  Where do you get your books? I’m someone who likes real books so I was going to grab it also and it’s not at my library. 

When ss20ts said he really like the informational session, I hopped on the next one they had and I remember him saying the library people were really great so I hopped into that breakout room and Dr Joe Pendleton was in there. He was very enthusiastic and we had a great convo so I chose him for my Theory and Application course. Did you happen to have him in one of your efforts to take the class?

Thanks again for your response!

I think Dr. Pendleton only teaches the research course. I don't think he teaches other courses. But you can look at the Summer Course brochure on the Amberton website. It lists the courses being offered and who's teaching them. I really enjoyed Dr. Pendleton during the info session. I've sat through many of these types of things for a bunch of colleges and this was the only one where someone for the library was included. Being informed prior to the start of classes what resources are available and how to use them is HUGE. I have not had many online programs inform students what's available, how to find it, or how to use it so I have struggled at some schools because you need access to the journals for the papers. I LOVE how there's a chat during business hours for the library. I have found them to be REALLY helpful.

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Yes, I'm sorry - they are the first 2 courses, the research one and the ethics one. Do you mind if I ask who is the professor you like? If I have an opportunity to take a class with them, I may just do that.

The syllabus viewing prior to enrollment is the best thing about this! Are you doing school FT?

I really enjoy Dr. McGuffin. She is teaching Managing the Generations class I'm in right now. She is a full time professor at Amberton so she has like 2-3 grad courses each session and a few undergrad. 

I LOVE that I can see the syllabus ahead of time. It has saved me from some headaches where I'm just like yeah I don't have that in me right now. Some classes are more work than others. I know my personal limitations so knowing at registration what work you'll be doing is a major bonus to me. I am full time with 3 courses per session. I have read that 4 can be taken but you need approval for it. I am going to try 4 classes in the fall session if I can get permission. Summer is too busy to tackle 4.

[allvia]

I really enjoy Dr. McGuffin. She is teaching Managing the Generations class I'm in right now. She is a full time professor at Amberton so she has like 2-3 grad courses each session and a few undergrad. 

I had Dr. Carol Palmer-McGuffin for MGT4620 Teams and Technology (during the peak of the pandemic, which make the topic very timely).  I too enjoyed her class, and would recommend her.