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Johann Wrote:GREAT! Folks over at ACCET and ACCSC (and to some extent DEAC) should plan for extra phone lines. The good will apply - the bad will die.
Yes, I agree, majority will go to those two/three mentioned and many more will try to go the RA route before they try this, the ones who fail RA will test their options with ACCET, ACCSC and DEAC, and if these fail... it's time to close shop for good.
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(03-11-2021, 12:42 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Johann Wrote:GREAT! Folks over at ACCET and ACCSC (and to some extent DEAC) should plan for extra phone lines. The good will apply - the bad will die.
Yes, I agree, majority will go to those two/three mentioned and many more will try to go the RA route before they try this, the ones who fail RA will test their options with ACCET, ACCSC and DEAC, and if these fail... it's time to close shop for good.
No they won't. Most (or likely all) would NEVER qualify for "the-accreditation-formerly-known as RA." And they KNOW it. Even if they could qualify (and they can't) a lot don't have the kind of financial resources necessary to get and keep it, either. On top of that, only the topmost of these schools could reasonably expect approval from DEAC, either. And many, even if they're good at what they do, are not DEAC's type - they're vo-tech schools teaching skills that need hands-on, with on-ground locations - the D in DEAC stands for DISTANCE. DEAC mandates that a high portion (I forget exactly how high) of an applicant's educational offerings must be by distance.
Many are ACCET and ACCSC's kind of schools. How many of the ACICS schools are good enough to pass their tests - I have no idea. But yes, there will definitely be some doors closing. You can bet on that.
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(03-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Johann Wrote: No they won't. Most (or likely all) would NEVER qualify for "the-accreditation-formerly-known as RA." And they KNOW it. Even if they could qualify (and they can't) a lot don't have the kind of financial resources necessary to get and keep it, either. On top of that, only the topmost of these schools could reasonably expect approval from DEAC, either. And many, even if they're good at what they do, are not DEAC's type - they're vo-tech schools teaching skills that need hands-on, with on-ground locations - the D in DEAC stands for DISTANCE. DEAC mandates that a high portion (I forget exactly how high) of an applicant's educational offerings must be by distance.
Many are ACCET and ACCSC's kind of schools. How many of the ACICS schools are good enough to pass their tests - I have no idea. But yes, there will definitely be some doors closing. You can bet on that.
DEAC is 51% on distance minimums. One fascinating development along those lines is a school in application status currently, the Southwest University of Naprapathic Medicine, whose leadership recently succeeded in getting a Naprapathic Practice Act passed in New Mexico (the only other state to license the discipline in Illinois), and they are offering a Chiropractic adjacent DN/Doctor of Naprapathic Medicine via 51% distance learning. I look forward to seeing them (hopefully) get accredited.
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I had to go into the Annual Report in order to find a listing of all the schools they accredit (as of 08-20) Sorry for the formatting issues
Arkansas Bryan University, Rogers California Agape College of Business and Science, Fresno Bay Area Medical Academy, San Francisco Bergin Univeristy of Canine Studies, Penngrove Beverly Hills Design Institute, Beverly Hills California Aeronautical University, Bakersfield California Aeronautical University, Ventura California University of Management and Sciences, Anaheim Empire College, Santa Rosa Laurus College, Oxnard Laurus College, San Luis Obispo Lincoln University, Oakland Merit University, Los Angeles Nobel School of Business, Los Angeles Nobel School of Business ‐ Buena Park Pacific States University, Los Angeles San Diego Global Knowledge University, San Diego Santa Barbara Business College, Bakersfield Santa Barbara Business College, Rancho Mirage Southern States University, Irvine Southern States University, San Diego Connecticut American Institute of Healthcare & Technology, Stratford District of Columbia Bay Atlantic University, Washington Inter‐American Defense College, Washington
Florida Bethesda College of Health Sciences, Boynton Beach College of Business & Technology, Cutler Bay College of Business & Technology, Hialeah College of Business & Technology, Miami Gwinnett Institute, Orlando Hope College of Arts & Sciences, Pompano Beach Jose Maria Vargas University, Pembroke Pines Marconi International University, Inc., Miami Millennia Atlantic University, Doral Premiere International College, Fort Myers San Ignacio University, DORAL Schiller International University, Largo Southern Technical College, Fort Myers Southern Technical College, Port Charlotte Southern Technical College, Tampa Suncoast College of Health, Bradenton United International College, Miramar Georgia Gwinnett College, Lilburn Pacific Institute of Technology, Atlanta Illinois National Latino Education Institute, Chicago Maryland Stratford University Baltimore Campus, Baltimore Missouri Bryan University, Springfield Nevada Southern States University ‐ Las Vegas, NV, Las Vegas
New Jersey Best Care College, East Orange Eastwick College, Hackensack Eastwick College, Nutley Eastwick College, Ramsey New York Emerging Technologies Institute, Forest Hills North Carolina Living Arts College @ School of Communication Arts, Raleigh Living Arts Institute @ School of Communication Arts, Winston Salem Ohio Hondros College of Business, Westerville Oregon Process Work Institute, Portland Pennsylvania Pittsburgh Career Institute, Pittsburgh Puerto Rico Atlantic University College, Guaynabo Humacao Community College, Humacao The Puerto Rico School of Nurse Anesthetists, Hato Rey
South Carolina Forrest College, Anderson Texas Texas Health and Science University, Austin Texas Health and Science University‐ San Antonio Utah Broadview University‐West Jordan, West Jordan Virginia California University of Management and Sciences, Fairfax Fairfax University of America, Fairfax Stratford University, Falls Church Stratford University, Woodbridge Stratford University – Alexandria, Alexandria University of North America, Fairfax International American International College of Arts and SciencesAntigua, St. John's American University In Bosnia and Herzegovina, Tuzla ISDI, Madrid Niels Brock Copenhagen Business College, Copenhagen Schiller International University, Heidelberg Schiller International University, Madrid Schiller International University, Paris Stratford University – New Delhi, Utter Pradesh Universidad San Ignacio De Loyola S.A., Lima Universidad San Ignacio Loyola, Lima Universidad San Ignacio Loyola, Magdalena
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(03-11-2021, 03:08 PM)Alpha Wrote: I had to go into the Annual Report in order to find a listing of all the schools they accredit (as of 08-20) Sorry for the formatting issues
Arkansas Bryan University, Rogers California Agape College of Business and Science, Fresno Bay Area Medical Academy, San Francisco Bergin Univeristy of Canine Studies, Penngrove Beverly Hills Design Institute, Beverly Hills California Aeronautical University, Bakersfield California Aeronautical University, Ventura California University of Management and Sciences, Anaheim Empire College, Santa Rosa Laurus College, Oxnard Laurus College, San Luis Obispo Lincoln University, Oakland Merit University, Los Angeles Nobel School of Business, Los Angeles Nobel School of Business ‐ Buena Park Pacific States University, Los Angeles San Diego Global Knowledge University, San Diego Santa Barbara Business College, Bakersfield Santa Barbara Business College, Rancho Mirage Southern States University, Irvine Southern States University, San Diego Connecticut American Institute of Healthcare & Technology, Stratford District of Columbia Bay Atlantic University, Washington Inter‐American Defense College, Washington
Florida Bethesda College of Health Sciences, Boynton Beach College of Business & Technology, Cutler Bay College of Business & Technology, Hialeah College of Business & Technology, Miami Gwinnett Institute, Orlando Hope College of Arts & Sciences, Pompano Beach Jose Maria Vargas University, Pembroke Pines Marconi International University, Inc., Miami Millennia Atlantic University, Doral Premiere International College, Fort Myers San Ignacio University, DORAL Schiller International University, Largo Southern Technical College, Fort Myers Southern Technical College, Port Charlotte Southern Technical College, Tampa Suncoast College of Health, Bradenton United International College, Miramar Georgia Gwinnett College, Lilburn Pacific Institute of Technology, Atlanta Illinois National Latino Education Institute, Chicago Maryland Stratford University Baltimore Campus, Baltimore Missouri Bryan University, Springfield Nevada Southern States University ‐ Las Vegas, NV, Las Vegas
New Jersey Best Care College, East Orange Eastwick College, Hackensack Eastwick College, Nutley Eastwick College, Ramsey New York Emerging Technologies Institute, Forest Hills North Carolina Living Arts College @ School of Communication Arts, Raleigh Living Arts Institute @ School of Communication Arts, Winston Salem Ohio Hondros College of Business, Westerville Oregon Process Work Institute, Portland Pennsylvania Pittsburgh Career Institute, Pittsburgh Puerto Rico Atlantic University College, Guaynabo Humacao Community College, Humacao The Puerto Rico School of Nurse Anesthetists, Hato Rey
South Carolina Forrest College, Anderson Texas Texas Health and Science University, Austin Texas Health and Science University‐ San Antonio Utah Broadview University‐West Jordan, West Jordan Virginia California University of Management and Sciences, Fairfax Fairfax University of America, Fairfax Stratford University, Falls Church Stratford University, Woodbridge Stratford University – Alexandria, Alexandria University of North America, Fairfax International American International College of Arts and SciencesAntigua, St. John's American University In Bosnia and Herzegovina, Tuzla ISDI, Madrid Niels Brock Copenhagen Business College, Copenhagen Schiller International University, Heidelberg Schiller International University, Madrid Schiller International University, Paris Stratford University – New Delhi, Utter Pradesh Universidad San Ignacio De Loyola S.A., Lima Universidad San Ignacio Loyola, Lima Universidad San Ignacio Loyola, Magdalena
What South Harmon Institute of Technology isn't listed? That place sounds far more legit than many of these. Best Care College? That sounds like the toilet paper used in dorms. Bergin Institute of Canine Studies....is this a grooming school? Beverly Hills Design Institute sounds like where Donna Martin and Kelly Taylor went to college following graduation from West Beverly Hills High. This is entertaining and sad at the same time.
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South Harmon is a SHAM! <as I mentioned in 2018 err, 2/18 of 2019> https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid281818 - is it me or does the numbers to the postid pid=281818#pid281818 have a few 8's in them? LOL...
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(03-11-2021, 06:00 PM)ss20ts Wrote: What South Harmon Institute of Technology isn't listed? That place sounds far more legit than many of these. Best Care College? That sounds like the toilet paper used in dorms. Bergin Institute of Canine Studies....is this a grooming school? Beverly Hills Design Institute sounds like where Donna Martin and Kelly Taylor went to college following graduation from Beverly Hills High. This is entertaining and sad at the same time.
South Harmon IT is far too prestigious an institution to be involved with ACICS.
Best Care is a nursing school even... and it appears to have zero admission standards (no GPA req, no pre-req courses, no admissions test, nada). Just be able to pay $2k/$3k to start. Comforting isn't it? (Especially with a plague.)
Bergin is sorta interesting at least, they appear to focus on service dogs/dog training. Very small school, under 50 students, looks like 5-6 faculty (including Dr. Begin herself). They accept SDC courses for electives.
I also noticed a lot of the ACICS schools have English as a second language departments (including BHDI). Several seemed to target Chinese students especially.
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(03-11-2021, 07:50 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: South Harmon is a SHAM! <as I mentioned in 2018 err, 2/18 of 2019> https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid281818 - is it me or does the numbers to the postid pid=281818#pid281818 have a few 8's in them? LOL...
Hey rumor has it that they have the best ever chocolate wads! An explosion of flavor.
(03-11-2021, 07:59 PM)dbinghamjr Wrote: (03-11-2021, 06:00 PM)ss20ts Wrote: What South Harmon Institute of Technology isn't listed? That place sounds far more legit than many of these. Best Care College? That sounds like the toilet paper used in dorms. Bergin Institute of Canine Studies....is this a grooming school? Beverly Hills Design Institute sounds like where Donna Martin and Kelly Taylor went to college following graduation from Beverly Hills High. This is entertaining and sad at the same time.
South Harmon IT is far too prestigious an institution to be involved with ACICS.
Best Care is a nursing school even... and it appears to have zero admission standards (no GPA req, no pre-req courses, no admissions test, nada). Just be able to pay $2k/$3k to start. Comforting isn't it? (Especially with a plague.)
Bergin is sorta interesting at least, they appear to focus on service dogs/dog training. Very small school, under 50 students, looks like 5-6 faculty (including Dr. Begin herself). They accept SDC courses for electives.
I also noticed a lot of the ACICS schools have English as a second language departments (including BHDI). Several seemed to target Chinese students especially.
Too prestigious is frightening!
That has to be a joke of nursing school.
The dog school might actually be one of the best schools on the list!
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(03-11-2021, 04:16 PM)bitherlord Wrote: I can't believe how many weird ****** up schools there are in the USA that are allowed to operate. From profit schools (first time hearing of those) to boarding schools who abuse teenagers...
For profit simply means that the school is a corporation. It sells education and makes money on it. Not necessarily evil, although many would contradict me on that. A lot of non-US countries have it too - Malaysia, for one.
It's common - and a term you'll hear a lot around here; I notice you're new on the forum.
For a list of many, many US for-profit schools, including names you will likely recognize, go here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fo...d_colleges
And welcome to Degreeforum!
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(03-12-2021, 05:55 AM)bitherlord Wrote: (03-11-2021, 04:16 PM)bitherlord Wrote: I can't believe how many weird ****** up schools there are in the USA that are allowed to operate. From profit schools (first time hearing of those) to boarding schools who abuse Speed Testteenagers...
Man, I can't believe how many weird ****** up schools there are in the USA that are allowed to operate. From profit schools (first time hearing of those) to boarding schools who abuse teenagers...
I'm not sure which schools you're talking about but I don't know that anyone is actually in favor of schools abusing children. Where is that coming from?
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